Dogs And Rabies

[Spellbound]

Can anyone authenticate what happens to a dog when it bites someone in Thailand.

I spend 1/2 my life in a smallish moo-barn in Korat. Until now never had to much problems with the local dog community, but about 3-4 month ago some bloody idiot has been dumb enough to purchase a Doberman Pincer. (Now that is not a problem if they cared for the <deleted> thing) . Anyway this animals owner has taken to just letting it wander around all over the place and it’s starting to get territorial. I understand Dobermans are unpredictable at the best of times, after all they are mainly bred as a security dog / police dog and can be unpredictable at times.

I have informed my Thai family about the mental stability of such dogs, and told them to be careful and they have even made a complaint to the Poo-Yai-Barn, (waste of time that is.)

If only Thai’s understood that when they buy some of these “exotic / foreign dogs” they knew what was involved in looking after such a beast.

Anyway, during conversations about dogs in Thailand, I was told if a dog bites someone they cut the head off the dog and take it to the hospital with them. CAN THIS BE TRUE or a wind up. ?

[challstrom]

Well as this might happend, I have never heard of that, and I have been living permanently in Udonthani for the last 15 Y, but i know as i supose you do, that the owner of the dog have to be responsible for any wound his dog may give to a person or animal what so ever, and in some case pay an hefty price for that.

and if repeated, the police kan order him to take him "her" away.

But, as this is Thailand anything in between can happend.

Carl Hallstrom

[cdnvic]

I've heared of this, but not of it ever actually being done. Might be because rabies is a type of brain wasting sickness and looking at the brain of the animal would determine if it was present or not. Remember it wasn't long ago that being bit by anything rabid meant alot of painful stomach injections. With better and less painful treatments these days maybe the head cutting is just an old practice that has fallen into disuse?

cv

[32x]

I know what i would do if it became a real problem that i could`nt even walk out of the front door,pay someone to kill it!!.

Or pay someone to stick it in the back of a pickup and let the thing out in the middle of know where.

[Rinrada]

I had an argument a few years ago with a dog late one night up in "La Union" in the Phillippines and decided to go to the local hospital in San Fernando next day just to check things out.

Sure enough the advice given was precisely as stated ...go back and find the dog,kill it,cut off its head and bring it (the head)back to the hospital and we (again the hospital) will remove the brain (the dogs )disect it and do a test for rabies....hydrophobia ....DO WHAT?

Anyway I went back to see the mutt and and told it if it comes anywhere near me again I would smash its head in with this large piece of wood and (carry out aforementioned instructions)and...and...an then went for a beer

I have since heard rumours that the dog went MAD

[Felt 35]

I have got bitten twice in Thailand.

First time the dog had an owner, wealthy hotel and property owner. That time I had only been in Thailand for six months. I followed normal procedure and recommendations from my home country with the five post-injections plus after one and three year and reported it to police after recommendations from Thai friends. (In case something later should happen)

In a meeting with the owner I asked polite if he was willing to pay my hospital bills and

I also requested to se the dog, which the owner not let me, and he also doesn’t wanted to pay my hospital bills. I didn’t care about the bills but I was later admitted to see the dog and under this meeting got threaten with “one farang more or less” So in this case I think my head was more actually to get cut of than the dogs head…

Second time was a stray dog, same procedure with injections, but this time the renovation department in Phuket, (where I moved later on) which is responsible for taking care of this things gave me a lot of help and we was together out "hunting" for the dog.

Without luck, but however they showed me a great responsibility and sure they had eliminate the dog if we had found it and in this case who knows maybe they had cut the head of…

As you see, depends on the situation and eventually any owner.

[croftrobin]

There certainly is a growing number of foreign breeds of dogs appearing in villages throughout Thailand. It goes hand in hand with the growing nuimber of foreign residents here. While this is fine if the dogs are cared for well, many are not, especially when the foreign resident is away from home.

Where I live the procedure for a dog bite is to go to the local hospital for the series of injections. Normally the cost of this is met by the dogs owner.

Within the last year we have had a few people bitten by dogs living near us and each time the owners have settled without any problems, this is most likely because other people had witnessed the dog attacks.

The dogs (thai variety) are then often swapped for a black bucket the following day before they can repeat their actions.

I'm not sure what the exchange rate of black buckets too foreign breeds is currently, but I would think it better than 1 to 1 for thai breeds.

[et33.com]

forgive me if i am wrong

i heard that for dogs

they can feel your fear

and is likely to attack

if you start running

so don't run

look for something

to smash the nose

i repeat / NOSE NOSE NOSE

and the dog will run like crazy

with your """smell"""

imprint into it's head

and run when you get near and he smell you...

try it

unless you can outrun the dog

then run...

[royar2002]

Kill the ###### dog before he kill you or pay a Thai to do it.

Alternative, go to the local vet, tell him your proplem and he give you some sedative. Make some tasty meatballs, mixed with the drugs and when the dog sleep

take him far away from your area and drop him there. Maybe a temple?

[peteypie]

I was bitten by a large 'Bitsa' (bitsa this and bitsa that) while living in Israel. As I was armed at the time, I shot it dead on the spot! My friend and I loaded the flopping corpse into the boot of his car and drove to the local vet's college, where they sliced off the top of it's head with a band saw, removed it's brain and took a sample of the brain to their lab. The up shot of the result was that it didn't have rabies.....only a serious headache. As for the dingbat neighbour with the Doberman, well do the dog before it does you!

[toddy]

I have kept a large number of Dobermanns over the years - they are my favourite breed and yes, I admit, in the wrong hands they can be unpredictable and more than that can lean towards unpredictability in the right hands! A fantastic animal to own yet a lot harder to train than GSDs / Rottweillers and a lot less reliable - ie they run from confrontation believe it or not in 90% of cases. It is worrying to me that so many obviously unsuitable people, farang and Thai, are purchasing poorly bred guarding breeds and letting them have free reign of the sois and tracks in city and country with little or no training / socialization. These people will cause the government to bring in legislation or perhaps ban the sale of certain breeds. I hope this does not happen as I have GSDs, Dobermanns and Rottweillers on my property and they provide me with a 9 - 5 hobby and are all working dogs, if not for security / attack work, then agility and tracking. Do it right and a Dobermann is a friend for life, do it wrong and you have a timb-bomb - these animals are not Rotties or GSDs, they are simply more highly strung and more nervous. Lets see more responsibility taken and by the way - beating a Dobermann until it is scared of you will not work (you'd scare the pants off a Rottie/GSD doing this) but a Dobermann, no.

[bina]

Actually I tried to find out info on dogs in thailand; in israel the 'native' dog is the canaani-- a super independant, well adapted to our climate, spitz type dog probably the 'bitsa' that somebody here mentioned... lots hang around the arab villages w/rabies; used for some guarding/search work in IDF ; and w/ goats/sheep (but not reliable in kidding season as the placentas are tasty!as well as the new borns as these dogs are also good hunters.)

In issan, the dogs i saw were all spitz types (stand up ears, curled tail) w/nasty tempers... it was frightening to walk at night in the village! We have rampant rabies here from jackals and wadi dogs (semi feral throwaways) and these dogs reminded me of the wadi dogs.

what i really wanted to see was the Royal thai ridgeback?

*****

I run a zoo and the procedure we have to use comes from the Health ministery of Israel and Bet Degan animal hospital/school and health lab.

The procedure after being bitten is this:

1.wash teh wound for at least 15 minutes with running water and soap and scrub hard and well.

2. plunge hand or injured area if possible in dilute solution of polidine and water.

3.catch animal if possible alive and put in offical holding facility for at least 10 days if the dog bit because it was provoked (i.e. a naturally acting dog). If the dog was acting strangely, catch if can, if not, kill it, put in refrigerator (I once had a cat in mine at home after it attacked and bit me), and rush to lab as soon as possible. you have 24 hours at least.

Check latest tetanus booster; penicillin/cephalexin/type antibiotics for bite wounds.

Any sign of fever within 24 hours report to emergency room or equivalent because bites infect very very easily.

BTW never punch a boxer in the nose either because they are used to fighting face forward unlike other dogs, and they will just go for you; dog attacks you, throw him a piece of clothing a stick what ever to deal with (jacket shirt whatever)it buys time and diverts many work oriented but untrained dogs.

[bangsaen bob]

Normally in Thailand nature takes its course, i.e. if the dog pisses off some Thais or even falangs, it receives a nice meal of fresh meat laced with posion. I would expect you won't see that animal around much longer, or you can take action your self.

I've been bitten myself, and I made tracks to the hospital for rabies shots.

[Asian Frog]

Yes, DOBERMAN are wonderful dogs, but I agree also you have to handle very correctly. These dogs must not be mistaken and YOUR behavior must be stable. Not dangerous if well handled, but compared to other doggies it is like Formula 1 car in front of basic Toyota or Honda.

[blue eyes]

Just a bit different but.My sister in law was bit on the face by a "big black" dog in Issan when she was a kid.That was about 30 yrs ago.The wife has told me that all she remembers is her father killing the dog and then they ate it,not my wife though.Everyone in the moo ban was invited.She said that she only remembered the "old" people eating it.That is the only time that my wife can ever remember anyone in Issan eating a dog.Just an interesting tid bit of information.

[Asian Frog]

From my mia, Sakorn Nakhon is a dog eater city!!!