rubberduck Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Living in Thailand, is hosting a website (with most audience in Asia) on a European server (UK, Netherlands, Belgium) a good idea ? Basically the service is excellent, really high quality but regarding the distance is it wise to host a website there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Very good question: thai webpage is faster inside Thailand, but slow everywhere else on the planet and service is often poor. Europe is faster everywhere else, service is good but slower in Thailand. leaseweb.com http://www.hetzner.de/ they feel fast inside Thailand (dedicated servers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muratremix Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Its bad idea. Hosting in USA los angeles or sanfransisco is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Nowadays it should be OK. It used to be a problem, where routing to Europe mostly went over the US, being a bit of a detour this resulted in high ping times. On True Docsis, both the US and most European servers ping the same, around 250 to 300 msec. Couple of years ago, when on 3BB (Maxnet back then), pings to the US where also 300 msec, but to Europe often well over 500 msec. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Conners Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I recently made some tests to both my US and EU hosting servers, and the actual download rate was about 150 KB/s from both, not much difference. I can confirm Monty's ping values around 280-300 ms to either location. Of course the routes change dynamically and depending on network problems around the world may change.If your website is for a Thailand based audience your by far best off hosting it here in Thailand. I get 1.3 MB/s and 30 ms ping from my Bangkok hosting server! (figures updated with values for unencrypted downloads/HTTP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I think that the average user will not see any difference at all as long as he can access the website he / she will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFarAndNear Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I suggest Singapore or Hong-Kong to you. Good connection to Thailand because most Thai Providers peering with SIngapore Internet Exchanges. And rest of the world is average to good. At least much much better then hosting in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I think that the average user will not see any difference at all as long as he can access the website he / she will be happy. Okay okay your point noted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muratremix Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Hosting in singapore would be better of course. I have $7 usd vps in singapore used for personal proxy/vpn/download accelerator purposes (200 gb bw). For this price, I recommend it. http://oneasiahost.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerspace Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Singapore without doubt. Same quality and reliability as europe. Fast to everywhere worldwide. Sg to us is same as eu to us. Lightning fast to Thailand, hardly any slower than if it was in Bangkok. Singapore works as domestic speeds not international....normallu up to what the ISP claims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Conners Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Not really. I just tested a download link from Softlayers Singapore server to here, and all I could get was ~50 KB/s (~0.4 mbps). # wget http://speedtest.sng01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip --2013-07-30 14:48:16-- http://speedtest.sng01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip Resolving speedtest.sng01.softlayer.com... 119.81.28.170 Connecting to speedtest.sng01.softlayer.com|119.81.28.170|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 104874307 (100M) [application/zip] Saving to: `test100.zip' 20% [===============> ] 21,996,313 57.9K/s eta 23m 51s This is on a 100 mbps dedicated server in the CAT datacenter in Bangkok. For comparison I tried the same thing from the Dallas DC and got an avg of around 25 KB/s. Not sure how I managed to get 150 KB/s earlier, but I think it probably has something to do with the time of day doing the tests. These test were done in the afternoon, the previous late at night.If you see full speed "up to what the ISP claims" you're downloading a cached copy from the ISP's seamless proxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muratremix Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) Your cat line must have routing problem. Tot was like this before (for softlayer singapore) but then they fixed it. Edited August 3, 2013 by Phil Conners Quote removed as it messed up the site layout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Conners Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I have now checked with both TRUE, 3BB and the CAT datacenter in Bangkok. They all confirm there are NO difference in international bandwidth, once it's not national/Thai bandwidth it's international and limited. Obviously as Singapore is closer than, say USA, the ping values will be lower, but that's all. There is a separate link to Singapore, but it is is not more "open" than any other international line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muratremix Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I have now checked with both TRUE, 3BB and the CAT datacenter in Bangkok. They all confirm there are NO difference in international bandwidth, once it's not national/Thai bandwidth it's international and limited. Obviously as Singapore is closer than, say USA, the ping values will be lower, but that's all. There is a separate link to Singapore, but it is is not more "open" than any other international line. Softlayer uses ip range of 216s which is assumed in usa by lame technicians. All traffic to softlayer singapore was routed through usa and ended up very high pings before. However my true line was routing normally, it was just tot dsl routing that was problematic. Thailand has a bigger pipe to singapore and anything hosted in singapore would load much faster than something in europe or lets say, usa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Conners Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) I've hosted in the USA and in Singapore and I found Singapore lots faster from Thailand. YMMV. Edited August 5, 2013 by JSixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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