Koh Samet oil-spill recovery will be tough: experts

[khunken]

Just more banal bullsh*t and now the experts are saying what any one with an ounce of sense predicted at the onset..

This they say, by their own admission was categorized as a level 2 incident and still they failed to stop the oil washing up on the beaches. It is therefore obvious that they are incapable of handeling a level 2 incident.

It should be noted that there has been little information as to the real volume spilled and also to the reasons for this breach.

The oil came ashore owing to ineffectual and incompotent spill controls , procedures and a lack of equiptment and the necessary response training required to deal with such an offshore spill.

However, even in accepting the total incompotence shown bt PTT what is hard to stomach is the ever constant spin, misinformation and irrelevant bullsh*t that they pour out in a pathetic and blatantly obvious manner to misrepresent the true situation.

The truth is as in many envoronmental impact incidents here in Thailand they have again scored an own goal.

I get the idea you want out. What parts do you need for your ship?

Don't see any 'wanting out' in the above post. In fact it sums up the incompetence & bs nicely.

[paulmw]

Interesting that today we have two articles:

1. Video threat against Thaksin, who is officially a criminal on the run. It states that the government sought help from America through the CIA.

2. An oil slick threatening the environment, which ultimately affects all Thais. NO MENTION OF SEEKING ANY HELP FROM OUTSIDE EXPERTS!!!

On News Asia Singapore this morning stated the Thai's had asked Singapore for help.

Now I bet that hurt.

[wcoast]

Totally agree. They found corexit created year balls in the gulf of mexico that sank to the bottom. No chance of currents and microbes eating these balls of crap

[deecee10]

It was so predictable that the authorities would understate the problem.

However it's hard to sweep an oil slick under the carpet.

[Thai at Heart]

Yes these dispersant's are only viable in specific circumstances. Their use should be confined to approval by an expert in spill control, after all the relevant facts have been analyzed. Likely someone with little expertise just gave an order to use the chemicals so it appeared at least something was being done. Same situation in Gulf of Mexico. Panic containment makes for good media, idiotic implementation. I fear white beaches is all the governments is concerned about for tourism, while under the waters toxins abound, out of sight and out of mind. Typical #greenwash.

Eventually, this will get cleaned up by mother nature. To do this,you need surface area on the oil. Ever seen the sunlight washing up liquids adverts where they turn oil on the surface of water into billions of little droplets?

That's what corexit does, enabling the bacteria to get increased access to the oil and degrade it. 35cubic of corexit is literally a drop in a very big ocean.

"In 2012, a study found that Corexit increases the toxicity of oil by 52 times.^[8][9][10]"

^{http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/04/17/corexit-deepwater-horizon-oil-spill}

^{http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2010/09/bp-ocean-dispersant-corexit}

Without it, they would be cleaning oil of the beaches for months and months. Secondly, we don't know exactly what they used, but as it says, none are without toxicity. That said, crude oil is pretty toxic also.

It speeds up the degradation to a massive factor. Another report shows they used slickgone.

Edited July 31, 2013 by Thai at Heart

[StefanBBK]

Oil spills happen more and more around the world. I am sure there are somewhere specialists who dealt with such situations in the past. Those should be immediately contracted to help out, before all is too late. Time is of the essence.

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[johnlandy]

Interesting that today we have two articles:

1. Video threat against Thaksin, who is officially a criminal on the run. It states that the government sought help from America through the CIA.

2. An oil slick threatening the environment, which ultimately affects all Thais. NO MENTION OF SEEKING ANY HELP FROM OUTSIDE EXPERTS!!!

There have been so many reports in the BP (and here) on this event so you may well have missed it but for the second time in a week some 'poo yai' has admitted that they might have to call in Singapore

and at least one other country to help deal with the problem.

[cloghead]

Yes these dispersant's are only viable in specific circumstances. Their use should be confined to approval by an expert in spill control, after all the relevant facts have been analyzed. Likely someone with little expertise just gave an order to use the chemicals so it appeared at least something was being done. Same situation in Gulf of Mexico. Panic containment makes for good media, idiotic implementation. I fear white beaches is all the governments is concerned about for tourism, while under the waters toxins abound, out of sight and out of mind. Typical #greenwash.

Eventually, this will get cleaned up by mother nature. To do this,you need surface area on the oil. Ever seen the sunlight washing up liquids adverts where they turn oil on the surface of water into billions of little droplets?

That's what corexit does, enabling the bacteria to get increased access to the oil and degrade it. 35cubic of corexit is literally a drop in a very big ocean.

double twaddle...

[Thai at Heart]

Yes these dispersant's are only viable in specific circumstances. Their use should be confined to approval by an expert in spill control, after all the relevant facts have been analyzed. Likely someone with little expertise just gave an order to use the chemicals so it appeared at least something was being done. Same situation in Gulf of Mexico. Panic containment makes for good media, idiotic implementation. I fear white beaches is all the governments is concerned about for tourism, while under the waters toxins abound, out of sight and out of mind. Typical #greenwash.

Eventually, this will get cleaned up by mother nature. To do this,you need surface area on the oil. Ever seen the sunlight washing up liquids adverts where they turn oil on the surface of water into billions of little droplets?

That's what corexit does, enabling the bacteria to get increased access to the oil and degrade it. 35cubic of corexit is literally a drop in a very big ocean.

double twaddle...

If you want to be picking up the vast majority of it off the beaches for a very long time, don't spray anything....

Either way the environment is buggared, it's just a matter of how long it takes to recover, and with dispersents it's a hell of a lot quicker.

What is incorrect with my statement. By the way they used something else other than corexit. I haven't seen the msds.

Edited August 1, 2013 by Thai at Heart

[Thai at Heart]

Slickgone info

Www.dasincter.com

http://www.dasicinter.com/oil-dispersant/products/range/oil-dispersant-product-range/show/slickgone-ns

Edited August 1, 2013 by Thai at Heart