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It is easy to spend 100k a month in bk without spending a single satang on women. This is about what I spend and I'm female and live alone.

A nice house in a small community in the centre of bk admittedly accounts for almost half of that but the rest is easy to spend: running a car, nice meals out with wine a couple of times a week, having friends over for dinner and cooking Western food, weekend away once a month, etc. Very easily done.

Well it's just as easy to do 300,000 - it just depends on your tastes doesn't it?

300K covers rent on a penthouse at the Quattro in Thonglor, 200/20 ultra high speed internet, http://www.absolutefitfood.com/ for when one eats in, Iron Fairies or Maggie Choos for when one doesn't, cocktails at Grease in soi 49, a permanent VIP table at soi 11's Bash for when I feel like slumming 'til 7am and 12 grams of 60% pure Peruvian flake each month.

How can anyone could survive on less, daaaahling. rolleyes.gif

I moved here with with work and was not going to compromise the lifestyle I had back in the west to do so. In the west I lived in a house, drove a car, went out for dinner a couple of times a week, had friends over for dinner (FYI: I can cook better than anything ordered in) and went away at least one weekend a month.

I do the same thing here and that's what I spend per month doing so.

I moved here with with work and was not going to compromise the lifestyle I had back in the west to do so

Excellent, good girl.

I apologize for my previously flippant remark, you sound as if you have your head switched on.

PS, can you cook decent Mexican food, something Bkk is seriously lacking in.

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It is easy to spend 100k a month in bk without spending a single satang on women. This is about what I spend and I'm female and live alone.

A nice house in a small community in the centre of bk admittedly accounts for almost half of that but the rest is easy to spend: running a car, nice meals out with wine a couple of times a week, having friends over for dinner and cooking Western food, weekend away once a month, etc. Very easily done.

Are you looking for a gik, no need for poncy meals out with wine, friends over for dinner, knock that on the head, western food no need, can eat Asian food, no need for weekends away, there you go sorted, budget saved 40% straight off the top of my head.

I'm not strapped for cash: why on earth would I want a gik?!

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It is easy to spend 100k a month in bk without spending a single satang on women. This is about what I spend and I'm female and live alone.

A nice house in a small community in the centre of bk admittedly accounts for almost half of that but the rest is easy to spend: running a car, nice meals out with wine a couple of times a week, having friends over for dinner and cooking Western food, weekend away once a month, etc. Very easily done.

Are you looking for a gik, no need for poncy meals out with wine, friends over for dinner, knock that on the head, western food no need, can eat Asian food, no need for weekends away, there you go sorted, budget saved 40% straight off the top of my head.

I'm not strapped for cash: why on earth would I want a gik?!

^^^^,

Excellent, good to see you have picked up on the local lingo.

BTW, a gik is nothing to do with cash.

I also have apologized for my rather flippant remarks.

Enjoy your stay.

BTW, you still didnt answer, can you cook Mexican food?

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It is easy to spend 100k a month in bk without spending a single satang on women. This is about what I spend and I'm female and live alone.

A nice house in a small community in the centre of bk admittedly accounts for almost half of that but the rest is easy to spend: running a car, nice meals out with wine a couple of times a week, having friends over for dinner and cooking Western food, weekend away once a month, etc. Very easily done.

Well it's just as easy to do 300,000 - it just depends on your tastes doesn't it?

300K covers rent on a penthouse at the Quattro in Thonglor, 200/20 ultra high speed internet, http://www.absolutefitfood.com/ for when one eats in, Iron Fairies or Maggie Choos for when one doesn't, cocktails at Grease in soi 49, a permanent VIP table at soi 11's Bash for when I feel like slumming 'til 7am and 12 grams of 60% pure Peruvian flake each month.

How can anyone could survive on less, daaaahling. Posted Image

I moved here with with work and was not going to compromise the lifestyle I had back in the west to do so. In the west I lived in a house, drove a car, went out for dinner a couple of times a week, had friends over for dinner (FYI: I can cook better than anything ordered in) and went away at least one weekend a month.

I do the same thing here and that's what I spend per month doing so.

I moved here with with work and was not going to compromise the lifestyle I had back in the west to do so

Excellent, good girl.

I apologize for my previously flippant remark, you sound as if you have your head switched on.

PS, can you cook decent Mexican food, something Bkk is seriously lacking in.

Apologies accepted and no bad feelings :-)

My point essentially is that everyone here has different financial circumstances, that doesn't make anyone more 'wrong' or 'right' than anyone else.

I just wanted to point out that it is very easy to spend 100k/month in bk if you are living a lifestyle here that would be comparable to that you had in the west.

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And yes, I can cook good Mexican food having spent over a year during Uni working in a Mexican restaurant. The reason Mexican food here in restaurants is dire is the ingredients: just not available here and those that are are sub standard :-(

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perhaps they don't want to shock you with the fact that the cost for two business class tickets to their home countries for them and their wives plus hotel plus car rental is higher than your total annual budget? whistling.gif

Is that you, Naam?

OP, for sinlge guy not looking to sponsor a local, with 45 000 baht you be fine anywhere in Thailand.

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I moved here with with work and was not going to compromise the lifestyle I had back in the west to do so. In the west I lived in a house, drove a car, went out for dinner a couple of times a week, had friends over for dinner (FYI: I can cook better than anything ordered in) and went away at least one weekend a month.

I do the same thing here and that's what I spend per month doing so.

Back home I lived in an apartment (though it didn't have a pool, bar, restaurants, shops, massage or hair dressers in the building) nor did someone clean it for me. I had to do my own cooking and laundry too....not out here!

I don't drive and have no intention of learning. I can afford to take taxis out here if I need to (though rarely need to tbh).

I hardly ever went out for dinner back home, it's not the sort of thing me and my friends do, we might have some pub food every now and then. I go out to eat in restaurants at least twice a week here.

With everyone working Monday to Friday back home it'd be one night out a week if lucky. I'm out all the time here.

I spent way more back home than I do here and I got much less for my money.

My life has improved significantly living in BKK and it's cheaper too. Anyone saying it's not possible / would be a hard life / sub standard existance / can't be any fun is deluded.

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I moved here with with work and was not going to compromise the lifestyle I had back in the west to do so. In the west I lived in a house, drove a car, went out for dinner a couple of times a week, had friends over for dinner (FYI: I can cook better than anything ordered in) and went away at least one weekend a month.

I do the same thing here and that's what I spend per month doing so.

Back home I lived in an apartment (though it didn't have a pool, bar, restaurants, shops, massage or hair dressers in the building) nor did someone clean it for me. I had to do my own cooking and laundry too....not out here!

I don't drive and have no intention of learning. I can afford to take taxis out here if I need to (though rarely need to tbh).

I hardly ever went out for dinner back home, it's not the sort of thing me and my friends do, we might have some pub food every now and then. I go out to eat in restaurants at least twice a week here.

With everyone working Monday to Friday back home it'd be one night out a week if lucky. I'm out all the time here.

I spent way more back home than I do here and I got much less for my money.

My life has improved significantly living in BKK and it's cheaper too. Anyone saying it's not possible / would be a hard life / sub standard existance / can't be any fun is deluded.

If you haven't learnt to drive I recommend you never try it here!

Thing with Thailand is (perhaps was), you can live at any level you can afford to. You pretty much have the freedom to live poor. Not sure that's a good thing, but it is what it is.

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perhaps they don't want to shock you with the fact that the cost for two business class tickets to their home countries for them and their wives plus hotel plus car rental is higher than your total annual budget? whistling.gif

Is that you, Naam?

OP, for sinlge guy not looking to sponsor a local, with 45 000 baht you be fine anywhere in Thailand.

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perhaps they don't want to shock you with the fact that the cost for two business class tickets to their home countries for them and their wives plus hotel plus car rental is higher than your total annual budget? whistling.gif

Is that you, Naam?

OP, for sinlge guy not looking to sponsor a local, with 45 000 baht you be fine anywhere in Thailand.

that single guy is "finest" (60-100,000 Baht/day) in an ICU without health insurance.

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People that own their own houses and have a maid that helps them with everything should not be alllowed to post in here.

You are in the minority of expats living here.

40k-50k is more than enough to have good life in Thailand

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People that own their own houses and have a maid that helps them with everything should not be alllowed to post in here.

You are in the minority of expats living here.

40k-50k is more than enough to have good life in Thailand

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As I have posted before no one I know lives on much less than 80k a month and most spend more. And yes you can live on 40-50k but most people wouldn't choose to as it severely limits your options. Decent housing can easily eat up almost half of that budget especially in the main expat areas Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket.

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Yet another "how long is a piece of string" thread. There is no correct answer to the monthly budget question. If TheSpade is content living on 45k a month, so be it. Same goes for Naam whose budget is quite a bit higher. Who are we to judge? Lifestyle is a function of personal comfort and affordability. Not everyone has a 100k+ budget and live within their means. That doesn't make it wrong for those whose budgets are quite a bit higher. If you could easily afford a better lifestyle, then why not? It's not rocket science. Not sure why this topic is always a point of contention.

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Loptr got it right, i know a very well off man who simply enjoy keeping his money, and increasing them.

He is happy settle for a cheap room on a tour and walk away from a resturant charging 120 baht for a large Leo,

in fact he enjoy it better when its cheap

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Yet another "how long is a piece of string" thread. There is no correct answer to the monthly budget question. If TheSpade is content living on 45k a month, so be it. Same goes for Naam whose budget is quite a bit higher. Who are we to judge? Lifestyle is a function of personal comfort and affordability. Not everyone has a 100k+ budget and live within their means. That doesn't make it wrong for those whose budgets are quite a bit higher. If you could easily afford a better lifestyle, then why not? It's not rocket science. Not sure why this topic is always a point of contention.

I think the argument was more about some people saying that living on a smaller budget is a "substandard lifestyle", when they are simply ignorant to the realities of lifestyles of different people. Specially when you got some bloke in his 60s from Pattaya trying to tell me what my lifestyle is like in Bangkok when I am in my 20s and work from home.

My original budget was way over what I spend now. I originally budgeted to spend 60k a month. A couple years later and my typical monthly budget is 30-40k instead.

Life is also a lot cheaper when you do not need to rent or pay for girls. :)

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Yet another "how long is a piece of string" thread. There is no correct answer to the monthly budget question. If TheSpade is content living on 45k a month, so be it. Same goes for Naam whose budget is quite a bit higher. Who are we to judge? Lifestyle is a function of personal comfort and affordability. Not everyone has a 100k+ budget and live within their means. That doesn't make it wrong for those whose budgets are quite a bit higher. If you could easily afford a better lifestyle, then why not? It's not rocket science. Not sure why this topic is always a point of contention.

I think the argument was more about some people saying that living on a smaller budget is a "substandard lifestyle", when they are simply ignorant to the realities of lifestyles of different people. Specially when you got some bloke in his 60s from Pattaya trying to tell me what my lifestyle is like in Bangkok when I am in my 20s and work from home.

My original budget was way over what I spend now. I originally budgeted to spend 60k a month. A couple years later and my typical monthly budget is 30-40k instead.

Life is also a lot cheaper when you do not need to rent or pay for girls. smile.png

Exactly.

I came here expecting to spend around 55-60k a month easily and soon found I didn't need to without having to scrimp or deny myself anything.

As I have posted before no one I know lives on much less than 80k a month and most spend more. And yes you can live on 40-50k but most people wouldn't choose to as it severely limits your options

But you are a single 60+ man and living in Pattaya, right?

I think I can guess why you might spend a bit more than a single guy in his 20s in BKK. Of course I could be wrong but until you break down your budget for us I guess we'll never know...

Simply saying you don't know anyone who spends less than 80k p/m is useless if you don't give us a reference point.

Oh and what options are being limited when on a 45k budget out of curiosity? It certainly won't stop anyone having a good time, eating out, partying and dating women.

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I think the argument was more about some people saying that living on a smaller budget is a "substandard lifestyle", when they are simply ignorant to the realities of lifestyles of different people. Specially when you got some bloke in his 60s from Pattaya trying to tell me what my lifestyle is like in Bangkok when I am in my 20s and work from home.

My original budget was way over what I spend now. I originally budgeted to spend 60k a month. A couple years later and my typical monthly budget is 30-40k instead.

Life is also a lot cheaper when you do not need to rent or pay for girls. smile.png

Exactly.

I came here expecting to spend around 55-60k a month easily and soon found I didn't need to without having to scrimp or deny myself anything.

As I have posted before no one I know lives on much less than 80k a month and most spend more. And yes you can live on 40-50k but most people wouldn't choose to as it severely limits your options

But you are a single 60+ man and living in Pattaya, right?

I think I can guess why you might spend a bit more than a single guy in his 20s in BKK. Of course I could be wrong but until you break down your budget for us I guess we'll never know...

Simply saying you don't know anyone who spends less than 80k p/m is useless if you don't give us a reference point.

Oh and what options are being limited when on a 45k budget out of curiosity? It certainly won't stop anyone having a good time, eating out, partying and dating women.

He most certainly is a 60+ year old sexpat living in Pattaya. Probably the type you see hugging a chang beer around Soi Baukow in the middle of the day.

I remember going to Samui in 79 or 80 and catching a ferry over and then getting in the back of pick up for the trip to Chaewang Beach. Stayed in a beach hut for 30 baht a night shared with another guy so 15 baht a head. There were only two families mom and pop operations on the beach. No hotels no airport.

A couple of Aussies had been busted the week before for smoking ganga and were exhorted by the local BIB. We were told to be careful if we wanted to smoke. There were plenty of scams going on back then and many are still going on 30 years later. eg gem scam, sick buffalo scams, casino scam etc etc

Saw a guy murdered outside the Grace Hotel in Bangkok shot in the head at point blank range about 50 metres from where I was standing.

Old, jealous, and out of touch. smile.png

Can't fathom the lifestyles we lead.

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I can easily see someone living on 45k if that's what he has. It's certainly cheaper than a big city in any farang country. Rent and utilities gives a big jump. The sole exception I know of is rural and cheaper US where rent and utilities will be somewhat more, but everything else makes up for it.

Still, TIT and some guys love it and if 45k is what there is, then it certainly can be done. Some guys want Thailand enough to make some adjustments.

I could, but wouldn't live on that much, but I have no disrespect for those who do. Happiness isn't all about money.

I don't know why this is even an argument.

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Yet another "how long is a piece of string" thread. There is no correct answer to the monthly budget question. If TheSpade is content living on 45k a month, so be it. Same goes for Naam whose budget is quite a bit higher. Who are we to judge? Lifestyle is a function of personal comfort and affordability. Not everyone has a 100k+ budget and live within their means. That doesn't make it wrong for those whose budgets are quite a bit higher. If you could easily afford a better lifestyle, then why not? It's not rocket science. Not sure why this topic is always a point of contention.

I think the argument was more about some people saying that living on a smaller budget is a "substandard lifestyle", when they are simply ignorant to the realities of lifestyles of different people. Specially when you got some bloke in his 60s from Pattaya trying to tell me what my lifestyle is like in Bangkok when I am in my 20s and work from home.

My original budget was way over what I spend now. I originally budgeted to spend 60k a month. A couple years later and my typical monthly budget is 30-40k instead.

Life is also a lot cheaper when you do not need to rent or pay for girls. smile.png

I full well know the kind of lifestyle you guys have and paying for girls has no bearings on the budget I put out a couple of pages back. You guys live like local lower class people and you are satisfied living like that. I suppose if you have never tried anything more than that, then you don't know what you're missing. If cheap beer and girls you lift of Thaifriendly is enough to satisfy your demands of life, then more power to you. You are the ones being ignorant though, when you claim that anyone who has higher expectations is overspending, because they enjoy things like a nice bottle of wine over cheap thai whisky or the ability to not have to be limited to 35 sqm or being able to take a weekend in Macao/Singapore/Hong Kong or being able to eat good food and order in or having a nice sound system or a hd tv and many other comforts you can live without but which makes life much more enjoyable. And I haven't even touched on health insurance or having money to visit friends and family back home or buying a motorcycle (or car) or having an expensive hobby like sailing.

If you can't imagine spending 80K a month without paying for whores, then it is probably because you are a simpleton with few ambitions.

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Yet another "how long is a piece of string" thread. There is no correct answer to the monthly budget question. If TheSpade is content living on 45k a month, so be it. Same goes for Naam whose budget is quite a bit higher. Who are we to judge? Lifestyle is a function of personal comfort and affordability. Not everyone has a 100k+ budget and live within their means. That doesn't make it wrong for those whose budgets are quite a bit higher. If you could easily afford a better lifestyle, then why not? It's not rocket science. Not sure why this topic is always a point of contention.

I think the argument was more about some people saying that living on a smaller budget is a "substandard lifestyle", when they are simply ignorant to the realities of lifestyles of different people. Specially when you got some bloke in his 60s from Pattaya trying to tell me what my lifestyle is like in Bangkok when I am in my 20s and work from home.

My original budget was way over what I spend now. I originally budgeted to spend 60k a month. A couple years later and my typical monthly budget is 30-40k instead.

Life is also a lot cheaper when you do not need to rent or pay for girls. smile.png

I full well know the kind of lifestyle you guys have and paying for girls has no bearings on the budget I put out a couple of pages back. You guys live like local lower class people and you are satisfied living like that. I suppose if you have never tried anything more than that, then you don't know what you're missing. If cheap beer and girls you lift of Thaifriendly is enough to satisfy your demands of life, then more power to you. You are the ones being ignorant though, when you claim that anyone who has higher expectations is overspending, because they enjoy things like a nice bottle of wine over cheap thai whisky or the ability to not have to be limited to 35 sqm or being able to take a weekend in Macao/Singapore/Hong Kong or being able to eat good food and order in or having a nice sound system or a hd tv and many other comforts you can live without but which makes life much more enjoyable. And I haven't even touched on health insurance or having money to visit friends and family back home or buying a motorcycle (or car) or having an expensive hobby like sailing.

If you can't imagine spending 80K a month without paying for whores, then it is probably because you are a simpleton with few ambitions.

Thanks for proving how ignorant you are.

And I never claimed anything about anyone else overspending or anything else. Go along and read all my posts again before you call me a simpleton, simpleton. smile.png

All I have done is counter the ignorant comments from old sexpats telling me nonsense like I am living like a poor thai person, or that any room under 10k is some cockroach ridden box near a highway with only a fan.

And my budget is my monthly expenses. I save money on top of that. You think we do not travel to other countries too? Hell, I could even do that without dipping into my savings much. Last time I flew to Bali with Air Asia for 1,900 baht return. I make multiple trips to other countries each year.

Can't eat good food? I can afford to eat pretty much anything I want in BKK. I've never woke up and thought "gee I can't afford to eat steak today".

No sound system or HD TV? My 7k a month condo comes with both for free....

Expensive hobbies like sailing? Is that what you are spending your money on? Or is it trips to Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy? wink.png

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Thanks for proving how ignorant you are.

And I never claimed anything about anyone else overspending or anything else. Go along and read all my posts again before you call me a simpleton, simpleton. smile.png

All I have done is counter the ignorant comments from old sexpats telling me nonsense like I am living like a poor thai person, or that any room under 10k is some cockroach ridden box near a highway with only a fan.

And my budget is my monthly expenses. I save money on top of that. You think we do not travel to other countries too? Hell, I could even do that without dipping into my savings much. Last time I flew to Bali with Air Asia for 1,900 baht return. I make multiple trips to other countries each year.

Can't eat good food? I can afford to eat pretty much anything I want in BKK. I've never woke up and thought "gee I can't afford to eat steak today".

No sound system or HD TV? My 7k a month condo comes with both for free....

Expensive hobbies like sailing? Is that what you are spending your money on? Or is it trips to Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy? wink.png

I've lived in On Nut, Ratchada, Victory Monument and elsewhere before now living in Thong Lor. I've paid 5000, 8000, 11000, 15000, 25000 for apartments. I know what you get for the price, but if you think your 7K is tip top comfort, you'd probably think I live like a king even if I consider it only normal western standard.

Your 7K apartment is not a substitute for somethig twice the price. There is a market price for things and no, you haven't cracked the code, your standards are just much lower than mine.

And no, I don't spend any time in Soi Cowboy or Nana unless I have visitors who want to go there. I easily manage to spend 60-80K without. If I want hookers, I'll get myself a light skinned local girl from a thai establishment, you can keep your cowboy/insomnia/thaifriendly desperados who eat on the floor and live in even more squalor than you.

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I full well know the kind of lifestyle you guys have and paying for girls has no bearings on the budget I put out a couple of pages back. You guys live like local lower class people and you are satisfied living like that.

nothing wrong with living like local lower class people on 45 000 baht a month

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Thanks for proving how ignorant you are.

And I never claimed anything about anyone else overspending or anything else. Go along and read all my posts again before you call me a simpleton, simpleton. smile.png

All I have done is counter the ignorant comments from old sexpats telling me nonsense like I am living like a poor thai person, or that any room under 10k is some cockroach ridden box near a highway with only a fan.

And my budget is my monthly expenses. I save money on top of that. You think we do not travel to other countries too? Hell, I could even do that without dipping into my savings much. Last time I flew to Bali with Air Asia for 1,900 baht return. I make multiple trips to other countries each year.

Can't eat good food? I can afford to eat pretty much anything I want in BKK. I've never woke up and thought "gee I can't afford to eat steak today".

No sound system or HD TV? My 7k a month condo comes with both for free....

Expensive hobbies like sailing? Is that what you are spending your money on? Or is it trips to Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy? wink.png

I've lived in On Nut, Ratchada, Victory Monument and elsewhere before now living in Thong Lor. I've paid 5000, 8000, 11000, 15000, 25000 for apartments. I know what you get for the price, but if you think your 7K is tip top comfort, you'd probably think I live like a king even if I consider it only normal western standard.

Your 7K apartment is not a substitute for somethig twice the price. There is a market price for things and no, you haven't cracked the code, your standards are just much lower than mine.

And no, I don't spend any time in Soi Cowboy or Nana unless I have visitors who want to go there. I easily manage to spend 60-80K without. If I want hookers, I'll get myself a light skinned local girl from a thai establishment, you can keep your cowboy/insomnia/thaifriendly desperados who eat on the floor and live in even more squalor than you.

I could easily spend 60k too. That was my original budget amount when I moved here. I just don't see the need to. I'm more than happy with my lifestyle and it is certainly not substandard as some have mentioned in this thread.

And I have to laugh at you thinking you have some high ground with the ladies over young guys like me who spend less. You must be delusional. Those light skinned local girls are calling us up for free champ. :)

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I've lived in On Nut, Ratchada, Victory Monument and elsewhere before now living in Thong Lor. I've paid 5000, 8000, 11000, 15000, 25000 for apartments. I know what you get for the price, but if you think your 7K is tip top comfort, you'd probably think I live like a king even if I consider it only normal western standard.

Your 7K apartment is not a substitute for somethig twice the price. There is a market price for things and no, you haven't cracked the code, your standards are just much lower than mine.

And no, I don't spend any time in Soi Cowboy or Nana unless I have visitors who want to go there. I easily manage to spend 60-80K without. If I want hookers, I'll get myself a light skinned local girl from a thai establishment, you can keep your cowboy/insomnia/thaifriendly desperados who eat on the floor and live in even more squalor than you.

And no, you do not have any idea what our apartment or condo's are like, as evident from these two posts of yours.

A 35.000 budget will give you a small studio apartment with no appliances, no real furniture, mostly a fan not aircon in a location with lots of noise and traffic. I know because I've lived in these places. In Chiang Mai and elsewhere things are cheaper.

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because they enjoy things like a nice bottle of wine over cheap thai whisky or the ability to not have to be limited to 35 sqm or being able to take a weekend in Macao/Singapore/Hong Kong or being able to eat good food and order in or having a nice sound system or a hd tv and many other comforts you can live without

Mostly fan?

No appliances?

No real furniture?

Noise and traffic?

Small studio? (30-40 is the larger end of studios in BKK...)

You have no idea at all and it is hilarious.

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when you claim that anyone who has higher expectations is overspending, because they enjoy things like a nice bottle of wine over cheap thai whisky or the ability to not have to be limited to 35 sqm or being able to take a weekend in Macao/Singapore/Hong Kong

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If you can't imagine spending 80K a month without paying for whores, then it is probably because you are a simpleton with few ambitions.

weekends in Singapore or Macao require a little more than 65 - 80k a month, and I really doubt you can do yachting on 80k budget.

You argue that 45 000 a month budget is living like a 'lower class local', but 65 to 80k somehow is living like Last Of The Famous International Playboys, sipping vine with 'light skinned' upper class Thai ladies. I suspect many think that living on 65k is also nothing to brag about.

and who the hell goes to HongKong anyways?

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Last few pages have been so amusing that I've got to jump in.

Me and the missus going to UK in a couple of weeks and are disappointed that I cannot afford 1st class, have to settle for business @ 280000.

Sometimes I find it hard to decide which house to spend most time in.

I'm young.

I have never paid for sex in my life.

I'm hansum.

Girls from all corners of the world pay to take me out.

Generally I spend 70bht a day on smokes, other living expenses are covered by people who think I'm cool.

My other comment is that who cares if you're on a budget, what you earn or what you spend.

If you can afford to buy a round then fine, if you cannot then leave the bar.

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when you claim that anyone who has higher expectations is overspending, because they enjoy things like a nice bottle of wine over cheap thai whisky or the ability to not have to be limited to 35 sqm or being able to take a weekend in Macao/Singapore/Hong Kong

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If you can't imagine spending 80K a month without paying for whores, then it is probably because you are a simpleton with few ambitions.

weekends in Singapore or Macao require a little more than 65 - 80k a month, and I really doubt you can do yachting on 80k budget.

You argue that 45 000 a month budget is living like a 'lower class local', but 65 to 80k somehow is living like Last Of The Famous International Playboys, sipping vine with 'light skinned' upper class Thai ladies. I suspect many think that living on 65k is also nothing to brag about.

and who the hell goes to HongKong anyways?

I have income way above 80K. I could spend 150-200K and still have money to spare most months, some months even more.

And to Meatpod above, I don't know how old you are, but I am 31. I am not old, so don't fool yourself into thinking your underachieving is a question of either/or. I don't actually try to put myself on a high horse, that is you trying to make a false distinction between old sexpat and young playboy. I was in Thailand first run around on a similar budget to yourself at 25 years old and had an excellent time back then.

If you go back in my posts, I am also writing again and again, that such a budget is fine when you're twenty something, but no way if I wanted to live like that 10 or 15 years on.

I don't even know why I got into this discussion, most likely because TheSpade made it out like he was living a comfortable life with all amenities at 35K and we then found out he doesn't own anything else than a laptop and a backpack. That is fine, but I have a strong aversion to bullshitters and most people of a certain age are just not going to consider his lifestyle as comfortable.

All I am saying is that I've been relatively poor and I've been relatively well off and I vastly prefer the lifestyle that a bigger budget brings you, allthough nothing like slumming it a bit to get motivated to make things happen.

Just like the older sexpats you accuse of lying to themselves about their 'girl' costs, it is also possible to lie to yourself about your ambitions and desires if you see no way of affording them.

I think 60K is a reasonable minimum budget for anyone who isn't a young guy and that 45K is ok if you're early to mid twenties and hasn't gotten used to greater comforts.

Peace out, let me enjoy my single malt now.

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MrHammer said:

I don't even know why I got into this discussion, most likely because TheSpade made it out like he was living a comfortable life with all amenities at 35K and we then found out he doesn't own anything else than a laptop and a backpack. That is fine, but I have a strong aversion to bullshitters and most people of a certain age are just not going to consider his lifestyle as comfortable.

It's interesting, isn't it ? A hippie (or hipster - your choice) who claims to have the nightlife in Thailand wired, but spends an inordinate amount of time on TV bemoaning the lifestyle of various aging punters in 'his' backyard. The thing that really puzzles me about the young Turks on this board is WHY the hell they feel the need to post at all - how many of the 50+ brigade would waste hours each day on the Net with their (alleged) combination of money, looks and sexual stamina ? This is the internet - we can ALL be 30 years old, independently wealthy and gorgeous, but the older blokes who form the bulk of TV - my assumption - cant be bothered measuring their dicks every time they log in. OK - most of them cant be bothered ;)

Lads, if you really ARE living the life of Riley in SE Asia, more power to you, but I'm mystified as to why you feel the need to constantly wave your 'credentials' in our faces. For all the stereotypes, the majority of retired TV'ers seem to be folk who put in decades with their noses to the grindstone - does it really matter to you what they do in their retirement ? If you want to impress me, open an orphanage in SE Asia with your millions - I guarantee that you'll rapidly forget all about internet forums.

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