German tourist beaten-up by angry bike driver in Central Pattaya

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German beaten-up by angry bike driver in Central Pattaya



PATTAYA: -- Police were called to the front of Soi 15 inside Soi Baukaow in the early hours of Monday to assist a German Tourist who had sustained minor injuries following an attack by a motorbike driver who was described as wearing a Thai Navy uniform.

Police met with Mr. Kargl-Williams Gerhard aged 51 and his partner Khun Chutimar aged 39 who described to Police how the pair had just been dropped off by a Baht Bus and the pair were intending to walk back to Mr. Gerhards’ Hotel.

As the pair crossed the road a motorbike approached at-speed and Mr. Gerhard was nearly hit by the bike. Words were exchanged between the bike driver and German which angered the driver who stopped his bike and approached Mr. Gerhard who was punched and kicked a few times before the driver fled.

Full story: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/99622/german-beaten-up-angry-bike-driver-central-pattaya/


-- Pattaya One 2013-08-v

[retell]

the new hub of pesdestrian beaters

seems like the new national sport these days

i hope will have a "speedy" recovery and that the bike driver meets someone that will kick his ass bigtime

so he not only " loose face" but also some teeth

[EyesWideOpen]

OMG this is great news !!!! A one on one fight, did not know they existed here. Maybe the Thai men have been stung

by all the TV posters deploring packs of Thai men attacking a single foreign tourist.

[Songhua]

Sounds like an instant replay of the Patong incident last week. But in this case only words reported, no finger.

[hanno]

Here is an idea: TV members do a whip-around and hire a mixed martial arts fighter. This guy then does nothing else but cross the mean streets of Pattaya, annoying Thais on motorbikes.

Something like this:

[djvolak]

OMG this is great news !!!! A one on one fight, did not know they existed here. Maybe the Thai men have been stung

by all the TV posters deploring packs of Thai men attacking a single foreign tourist.

Now I just wonder if the outcome might have been a bit different had the ages been closer.

[dudu]

If your gonna get angry at every bike that nearly hits you while crossing the road, you will be angry all the time, they have a very arrogant way of driving, one has to remember, pedestrians have to give way here,even at traffic lights, when you have the right of way, they will not stop unless absolutely necessary, you are an obstacle in their way to no where....

Edited August 20, 2013 by dudu

[maddermax]

If a Farang jumped off his bike and assaulted a Thai, the Farang would be in jail before you could say 'Oops!' I hope they find the Thai and do the right thing by charging him. Oops, see that pig fly by? ..............

[Regyai]

'Bayonet Dodgers' eh

Who would believe that they could mouth off into getting themselves a slap

incredible

Edited August 20, 2013 by Regyai

[bangkokstick]

Old lion who thinks he can still roar...

[tomross46]

What happened to the government statement to the foreign embassies that the police would stop the violence and crimes against tourist?

[Regyai]

What happened to the government statement to the foreign embassies that the police would stop the violence and crimes against tourist?

Like all legislation in these matters it is meaningless

Until everybody gets a couple of policemen each you are largely responsible for managing your own predicament

The Ethel Merman decided to get vitriolic about his perceived 'lebensraum', matey boy responded and gave him a well deserved (nay insisted upon) slap.

And this is somehow news

Of course had it gone the other way and the MCycle rider been sent with his tail between his legs then it would merely have been a cause célèbre at the next Umpah Band knees up

.

Edited August 20, 2013 by Regyai

[TackyToo]

Confess guys! You are just posting all your opinions about this event to p*#ss of the ignorant dudes of the TAT, aren't you?

[Bagwan]

Old lion who thinks he can still roar...

You think that the elderly and infirm should show absolute show obeisance and shower respect on young <deleted> hooligans? Should they throw away all vestiges of self respect and kow tow?

That you choose to make a snide remark rather than express a little sympathy to a senior with the balls to express his anger and disgust in the face of unacceptable, and in this case dangerous, behaviour says much about you - and your upbringing.

[Regyai]

Old lion who thinks he can still roar...

You think that the elderly and infirm should show absolute show obeisance and shower respect on young <deleted> hooligans? Should they throw away all vestiges of self respect and kow tow?

That you choose to make a snide remark rather than express a little sympathy to a senior with the balls to express his anger and disgust in the face of unacceptable, and in this case dangerous, behaviour says much about you - and your upbringing.

True

To a degree

The sentiment is correct

But

Issue challenges and subsequently lose the duel

doesnt merit bemoaning the misfortune

.

[Suradit69]

If a Farang jumped off his bike and assaulted a Thai, the Farang would be in jail before you could say 'Oops!' I hope they find the Thai and do the right thing by charging him. Oops, see that pig fly by? ..............

And Thais never get arrested and put in jail. The cells are just awash with innocent farang.

Some people seem to view life in Thailand through special Aryan colored eye glasses that filter out reality and produce only mental images that suit their prejudices (fed by all the rants on TV that are accepted as fact).

Some of us have managed to stay in Thailand for many years without feeling compelled to give anyone, least of all a motorbike taxi driver, the finger or to yell abuse at anyone in the streets. With a little (sober) common sense the vast majority of people who come to Thailand seem to be able to negotiate the streets without throwing hissy fits at anyone. Others walk about (or sit at their computers) with a chip on their shoulders looking for any reason to feel that their alleged innate superiority is being challenged (AKA losing face).

Yes Veronica, Thais get arrested and put in jail, sometimes for a very long time. And yes, a lot of farang manage to act like idiots without ever being put in jail no matter how fast you can say "oops." If a 51 year old chooses to insult someone much younger than he is, the disparity in their ages can't be blamed on the younger man. Look both ways before crossing the street, as your mother probably told you, and life become a great deal less complicated.

Losing face (or the more popular spelling here: "loosing face") is a bigger problem for a lot of farangs than they're willing to admit, especially those who haven't much face to begin with.

Edited August 20, 2013 by Suradit69

[nosatisfaction]

the new hub of pesdestrian beaters

seems like the new national sport these days

i hope will have a "speedy" recovery and that the bike driver meets someone that will kick his ass bigtime

so he not only " loose face" but also some teeth

maybe some tree or katoy, they can get angry and physical, not only in bed I heard

55555555555555555

[Korat28]

Perhaps his bad manners and lack of respect for Thai culture (face) led the driver to believe he was an American?

Or it led the driver to believe he was a condescending Brit/Aussie/European who when isn't out walking the streets is making ignorant anti-American statements on Thaivisa

[hanno]

Some people seem to view life in Thailand through special Aryan colored eye glasses that filter out reality and produce only mental images that suit their prejudices (fed by all the rants on TV that are accepted as fact).

[bangkokstick]

Old lion who thinks he can still roar...

You think that the elderly and infirm should show absolute show obeisance and shower respect on young <deleted> hooligans? Should they throw away all vestiges of self respect and kow tow?

That you choose to make a snide remark rather than express a little sympathy to a senior with the balls to express his anger and disgust in the face of unacceptable, and in this case dangerous, behaviour says much about you - and your upbringing.

When I express my finger I am also ready to face the worst, so no, you are right, no feeling at all when others are not ready to face it and just keep whining like little girls...

[elzach]

If a Farang jumped off his bike and assaulted a Thai, the Farang would be in jail before you could say 'Oops!' I hope they find the Thai and do the right thing by charging him. Oops, see that pig fly by? ..............

And Thais never get arrested and put in jail. The cells are just awash with innocent farang.

Some people seem to view life in Thailand through special Aryan colored eye glasses that filter out reality and produce only mental images that suit their prejudices (fed by all the rants on TV that are accepted as fact).

Some of us have managed to stay in Thailand for many years without feeling compelled to give anyone, least of all a motorbike taxi driver, the finger or to yell abuse at anyone in the streets. With a little (sober) common sense the vast majority of people who come to Thailand seem to be able to negotiate the streets without throwing hissy fits at anyone. Others walk about (or sit at their computers) with a chip on their shoulders looking for any reason to feel that their alleged innate superiority is being challenged (AKA losing face).

Yes Veronica, Thais get arrested and put in jail, sometimes for a very long time. And yes, a lot of farang manage to act like idiots without ever being put in jail no matter how fast you can say "oops." If a 51 year old chooses to insult someone much younger than he is, the disparity in their ages can't be blamed on the younger man. Look both ways before crossing the street, as your mother probably told you, and life become a great deal less complicated.

Losing face (or the more popular spelling here: "loosing face") is a bigger problem for a lot of farangs than they're willing to admit, especially those who haven't much face to begin with.

Thanks for the comedy.

Are you suggesting that Westerners value "face" more than Thais? For most Asians, especially Thais (and Chinese I might add), saving face is a way of life. Actually, government policy is sometimes dictated by face-saving.

You could have said that the roads and sidewalks here (if they exist at all) are in such poor condition that forces many Thai drivers into dangerous maneuvers, or that, in general, life has little value in some places here...but of course that would mean "losing Thai face"?

[LeeTheCelt]

the new hub of pedestrian beaters

seems like the new national sport these days

i hope will have a "speedy" recovery and that the bike driver meets someone that will kick his ass bigtime

so he not only " loose face" but also some teeth

& we all know what happens to a farang when he starts beating a Thai in a fist fight, 10-20 Thais come from no where & beat 10 barrels out of the farang, even though he was only protecting himself in the first place.

The Thais seem to like fighting in numbers when the odds are stacked in their favour, didn't see any getting involved when that kid was beaten outside the convenience store in the other thread.

[petercool]

I drive a car and have had many foreigners shout at me because I am driving where they decided to walk and have even had a couple bang on my car as I drove by. I will stop if they choose to walk on marked crossings but most won't even if a crossing is 2 or 3 meters away. The assumption that pedestrians overrule any vehicle might apply in parts of Europe but it should take no more than a day to realise that does not apply here. I agree that no one should get physical but then again no one needs to get abusive either in the first place.

Edited August 20, 2013 by petercool

[dudu]

I drive a car and have had many foreigners shout at me because I am driving where they decided to walk and have even had a couple bang on my car as I drove by. I will stop if they choose to walk on marked crossings but most won't even if a crossing is 2 or 3 meters away. The assumption that pedestrians overrule any vehicle might apply in parts of Europe but it should take no more than a day to realise that does not apply here. I agree that no one should get physical but then again no one needs to get abusive either in the first place.

Right, if you were to stop to give way to a pedestrian where there were no marked crossing, you risk being hit from behind or if you stop,the cars behind you will pass you and endanger the pedestrian even more, many times i used to do this, ended up,pedestrians waiting in front of my car,while cars zoomed past me. plus tail behind me honking, never disrupt a kaotic working system with compassion or logic....

[Basil B]

Suppose the the German (Vettel) Salute did not help...

[DGIE]

Sounds like an instant replay of the Patong incident last week. But in this case only words reported, no finger.

But this time, only one motorcycle driver had beaten the foreigner.

And the foreigner has no tattoo

[Calimotty]

If a Farang jumped off his bike and assaulted a Thai, the Farang would be in jail before you could say 'Oops!' I hope they find the Thai and do the right thing by charging him. Oops, see that pig fly by? ..............

And Thais never get arrested and put in jail. The cells are just awash with innocent farang.

Some people seem to view life in Thailand through special Aryan colored eye glasses that filter out reality and produce only mental images that suit their prejudices (fed by all the rants on TV that are accepted as fact).

Some of us have managed to stay in Thailand for many years without feeling compelled to give anyone, least of all a motorbike taxi driver, the finger or to yell abuse at anyone in the streets. With a little (sober) common sense the vast majority of people who come to Thailand seem to be able to negotiate the streets without throwing hissy fits at anyone. Others walk about (or sit at their computers) with a chip on their shoulders looking for any reason to feel that their alleged innate superiority is being challenged (AKA losing face).

Yes Veronica, Thais get arrested and put in jail, sometimes for a very long time. And yes, a lot of farang manage to act like idiots without ever being put in jail no matter how fast you can say "oops." If a 51 year old chooses to insult someone much younger than he is, the disparity in their ages can't be blamed on the younger man. Look both ways before crossing the street, as your mother probably told you, and life become a great deal less complicated.

Losing face (or the more popular spelling here: "loosing face") is a bigger problem for a lot of farangs than they're willing to admit, especially those who haven't much face to begin with.

Thanks for the comedy.

Are you suggesting that Westerners value "face" more than Thais? For most Asians, especially Thais (and Chinese I might add), saving face is a way of life. Actually, government policy is sometimes dictated by face-saving.

You could have said that the roads and sidewalks here (if they exist at all) are in such poor condition that forces many Thai drivers into dangerous maneuvers, or that, in general, life has little value in some places here...but of course that would mean "losing Thai face"?

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"Some people seem to view life in Thailand through special Aryan colored eye glasses that filter out reality and produce only mental images "

You sure don't need those glasses Sunshine.

The unfortunate flaw in your argument is the statistics on the street.

[NoshowJones]

the new hub of pesdestrian beaters

seems like the new national sport these days

i hope will have a "speedy" recovery and that the bike driver meets someone that will kick his ass bigtime

so he not only " loose face" but also some teeth

A Thai guy taking on somebody on his own?????? That's strange. Thais never usually fight against one person unless the have 5 or 6 pals with them.

[phutoie2]

What with a German being duffed up by kids In Phuket and this. Well perhaps the hermans need to get a bit street wise.

Sent from my i-mobile IQ 2 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

[Paangjang]

Exact same thing happened to a german last week in Patong, Phuket. Only difference was it was 2 Thai's to 1 old German. They punched and beat him. Check Phuket news and events forum.