joboss Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I seem to remember something about these things having compulsory insurance....or was it a dream? Not paying the "compulsory" extras will "insure" you can't leave until you do. seems it is all part of the Phuket "adventure". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Not everyone knows about the jet ski scams. But over time more and more people will know how Thailand treats its guests (not all of course) One day, the light will turn on for some important official and he/she will know that catering for the cheaper end of the tourist market, lowers standards and profit. Then perhaps these conning Thais will be looked upon as leeches doing an injustice to Thailand and not just tourists and get sentenced as terrorists against the nation. Edited September 28, 2013 by thhMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cup-O-coffee Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I seem to remember something about these things having compulsory insurance....or was it a dream? Very interesting point. Owning and operating a vehicle of any sort carries the requirement to have it insured. That should be the very first point made, and/or policies should be reviewed and proper notice given to customers renting; "Be advised that these rented vehicles do not carry any insurance coverage, and the renter is liable for all damage to the vehicle; either pre-existing damage, or damage done during the rental period." Again; excellent point! Why are the police and the Phuket government allowing uninsured vehicles to be used in a business? I cannot help but think enough negative things about the Thai mentality and Thai mind that justifies the way they pollute the term "existence" at certain times like this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazydrummerpauly Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge? It's obvious that the 'non-criminal' / i.e. civil aspect of the event will focus on the matter of damage or no-damage to the jet-ski and therefore the question of whether there was ever any liability to pay for said damage by the tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dararasmi Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I was almost the victim of the ol' jet-ski scam. It turned out to be one the funnest experiences I've ever had in Thailand...or anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongfarang Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Tell all family friends and any one you know visiting "Never rent a Jet Ski in Phuket!" I told my son and his mate that last year, fully explaining the reasons and consequences and detailing examples ... yet the first thing they did in Patong was to rent them. Bright-eyed tourists, particularly young adults, do not think logically - they are in fun mode. Whilst we're aware of it, I doubt very few tourists have ever even heard of a 'jet-ski scam' at all. When its explained what can or what is infact is planed to happen they just would,nt believe it, when i get asked back at home about thailand...i think most dont believe such things would be aloud to continue, Same when i tell about the criminal activities of the police, to them it sounds like a 3rd world african state.. maybe nigeria. Edited September 28, 2013 by tingtongfarang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiinasia Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Yet another use for a flag pole... the list goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Considered Opinion Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I do not understand why people keep hiring these jet skis .... and I can't work or why there isn't a cliche monitor.... Dreadful business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCARLETIBIS1 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Took a road trip to Heaven last week and had a nice chat with God. He asked me how were things in Thailand. I told Him it's the same old s..t everyday here. You can assault people and get away with it here if you are a Thai for that matter even kill them as long as you use a Samurai sword. I asked Him why on earth did He create these cretins. He told me He lost a bet to the Devil in a card game. If He won the Devil had to quit tempting people and if the Devil won God had to create another Hell on earth. Ergo, Thailand. Edited September 28, 2013 by SCARLETIBIS1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I read it as the civil part of the case, as opposed to the criminal part, will be heard at the tourist court i.e. damages will be awarded, But from who to whom? To the jetski operator for the damage to the jetski or to the Israelis for a physical attack on them? Or perhaps the two will conveniently even themselves out. Of course this is arse-about-face, though in this instance, as the perpetrator has admitted he attacked the tourists, it should work. Though will a criminal case actually get to court? Correct. The Israelis will be called to the tourist court pretaining to the alleged jetski damages, not relating to the ABH incident. These jetski scams have been well documented and cannot understand why tourists are still falling into the trap? Perhaps they believe that the worst will happen to the other fella and not to them? Whatever, I don`t think these Israelis are going to receive justice anyway, it could even go against them in court. If it does, than I guess this will be hushed up and there will not be any updates regarding this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evermaat Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I was almost the victim of the ol' jet-ski scam. It turned out to be one the funnest experiences I've ever had in Thailand...or anywhere else. More details please on how you escaped? "Second best time to plant a tree is today" sent from note 2 TV app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seabear Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Tell all family friends and any one you know visiting "Never rent a Jet Ski in Phuket!" Can you make that Thailand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etherus Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I am just trying to picture the scene....argumentative accusative jerk meets argumentative denial jerk. One then appreciates the occasional bar signs in Koh Phangan that say "No Israelis". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harleyclarkey Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge? Only if you are a Thai. Steal a bar mat and you'll go to jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well you can't just damage peoples jet skis and expect not to compensate them. There was no denial of damage on the Israelis part. Which articles says they do not deny the damage? The only other article I've seen states that after hiring it, it "felt weird" so the younger guy beached it, they then went to get the operator. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truckerjoe Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Another nail in the coffin ( I hope) Yeah and only another 50.000 nails to go! Its really becoming farcical now, all these years the goverment and cops have had the opportunity to stop this but obviously prefer not to, This dumb looking Thai Jet Ski operator would be a good start, but they are already calling it non criminal, and he is quickly out on bail and back to his jet skis and flagpole! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomross46 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Tell all family friends and any one you know visiting "Never rent a Jet Ski in Phuket!" What could be coming is, that Phuket me put on NO GO warnings by foreign embassies. It appears that the Governor of Phuket can not, or will not control the organized crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnehaha Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Why is an assault a non criminal charge? Thai law can be mysterious. Like when a speeding charge in connection with vehicular manslaughter of a policeman has a 2 year statute of limitations. I wonder if the vehicular manslaughter of a police officer charge also has a statute of limitations. I cite these very different cases to highlight surprising aspects of the law and legal system. I did learn one thing from that other case. The first thing I will do if ever pulled over for DUI is immediately grab a bottle of whiskey and guzzle. That way, they could not prove I was drunk before or after I was pulled over. I wonder if I could pull that off in another country? Obviously, if in custody you would need a mate to slip you one but it might be possible. Edited September 28, 2013 by Minnehaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewilltell Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well since this cretin is out on bail it is fairly obvious a criminal charge has been made. Of course the likelihood of the scumbag actually getting any punishment if the case astoundingly gets to court (after the Isralies have conveniently left Thailand thus evading any need for justice to be seen to be done), it will not help the civil case for damages. I truly hope the newspaper will diligently follow the case and report the decision of the court with full details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 “After the Israelis returned the jet-ski to me, I saw that it was damaged. Aren't they always? I was angry, and we quarreled. Then I used the wooden flag-pole to strike them,” Mr Danaichet told the police. Full confession. Throw away the key! These cowboys really need to be taken down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlandy Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Why is an assault a non criminal charge? You gotta remember this is Thailand. A Thai who commits murder or rape will often be released on bail. The thing that is surprising in this case is that the slime even arrested him, they are generally working hand in glove with the scum renting out the jet skis. Edited September 28, 2013 by johnlandy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelman868 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well you can't just damage peoples jet skis and expect not to compensate them. There was no denial of damage on the Israelis part. There was no comment from the Israeli's full stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Tip: Before renting a jet ski. whip out the phone/camera and take shots of the jet ski from all angles. Show the pics to the operator. When you return the jet ski ... there will be no claims of damage. A hassle, yes. But necessary in corrupt Thailand unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aachen Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge? because they are still alive... But: We don't want any more incidents like this,” Phuket Marine Chief Phuriphat Teerakulpisut said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlandy Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge? Read it again. They are clearly referring to things like a civil claim for damage and so on. No, not really, although it can be inferred, it still doesn't address the criminal issue. Why is that? Crappy reporting, bad copywriting, or no criminal case? Let us all know since obviously you have superior knowledge to the rest of us. A very good question and one which he will find very difficult to answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netizen Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well you can't just damage peoples jet skis and expect not to compensate them. There was no denial of damage on the Israelis part. Which articles says they do not deny the damage? The only other article I've seen states that after hiring it, it "felt weird" so the younger guy beached it, they then went to get the operator. Probably the limbs of the swimmers they ran over causing propeller vibration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlandy Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well you can't just damage peoples jet skis and expect not to compensate them. There was no denial of damage on the Israelis part. Have you never heard of insurance? 'oops stupid question' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) I'm waiting for bargirls to start claiming damages to their nether regions from overlarge farang appendages. EDIT: Don't forget to take pics. Edited September 28, 2013 by Fullstop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netizen Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well you can't just damage peoples jet skis and expect not to compensate them. There was no denial of damage on the Israelis part. There was no comment from the Israeli's Israelis full stop There was no statement or implication in the article that the Israelis denied they damaged the jet ski whether or not in fact the jet ski was damaged. People are very quick to rush to judgement of the Thai. Clearly he must have been very angry about something. I took the liberty of correcting your damaged grammar. No charge for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Would be nice to read about a mysterious event or series of events along the beaches of Phuket. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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