Passport for newborn

[liveforever]

Morning all, we are expecting our first child in march next year who will be born in the UK, I understand the registering of the birth here in the UK and UK passport for the child, but what I know nothing about is when we visit Thailand after the birth how to give the child duel citizenship and registering for a Thai passport. I am UK citizen, wife is Thai citizen with ilr.

Would appreciate any knowledge on the subject.

Kind regards

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[ubonjoe]

Your child will be a dual national at birth.

You will need to register the birth at the embassy in London. It can be done here but it is much more complicated. The passport application can be done at the same time.

Info here: http://www.thaiembassyuk.org.uk/?q=node/191

Edited October 13, 2013 by ubonjoe

[liveforever]

Thanks Joe, nice 1 mate,

Kind regards

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[Waterloo]

Registered our youngest about 6 months ago, relatively painless in & out in about an hour, passport, birth certificate and renewed the wifes passport at the same time.

[liveforever]

The Waterloo, its good to know, went to queens gate last month to renew her passport so getting to understand the process now, many thanks

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[bkk_mike]

I actually tried to register our UK-born daughter in Thailand first, and get sent back to the embassy to do it - as the passport office in Thailand wouldn't accept a UK birth certificate.

You have to do the registration (at the embassy), and you can either apply for the passport then, or once you have the registration, if you're going to Thailand, it's a lot quicker to get the child onto a house book in Thailand and apply in Thailand for the passport. (The embassy website says it takes 2 months to get a passport from them, compared to two days in Thailand).

Just remember, if the baby enters Thailand on her UK passport, she also needs to leave on it, or you'll come back in 20 years and find she gets hit with an overstay fine.

[7by7]

What happens if the child then tries to enter Thailand with a Thai passport issued in Thailand when there is no record of them ever leaving?

[Waterloo]

I actually tried to register our UK-born daughter in Thailand first, and get sent back to the embassy to do it - as the passport office in Thailand wouldn't accept a UK birth certificate.

You have to do the registration (at the embassy), and you can either apply for the passport then, or once you have the registration, if you're going to Thailand, it's a lot quicker to get the child onto a house book in Thailand and apply in Thailand for the passport. (The embassy website says it takes 2 months to get a passport from them, compared to two days in Thailand).

Just remember, if the baby enters Thailand on her UK passport, she also needs to leave on it, or you'll come back in 20 years and find she gets hit with an overstay fine.

To my recollection received all our documents through the post in under a month.

Edited October 15, 2013 by Waterloo

[Waterloo]

Something worth considering as Thai passports are good for 5 years & applications cannot be made by post is arranging for the renewal dates to all be the same.

We have 3 Thai passports in our household, the wifes, our 3 year old boy & our one year old daughter.

When our boys passport expires we will let it lapse & wait to renew it when the other 2 passports need renewing so that we will then only need to make one trip to London to deal with this every 5 years.

[krisb]

What happens if the child then tries to enter Thailand with a Thai passport issued in Thailand when there is no record of them ever leaving?

Good point.

What does happen? Options.., you show cust/imm the country of birth issued passport then on depart show the Thai passport right? Then the issue of overstay arrises as they want to see the same pp on depart. So you have to show the Thai pp on arrival and explain yourself right? Tell cust/imm it's a replacement? Possibly would work. Think I would shove my wife in front of them and let her do the talking! They can't say no can they? Not worth telling a fib, just explain the story, it's a Thai national after all.

7x7 can you give the right answer please?

[krisb]

What happens if the child then tries to enter Thailand with a Thai passport issued in Thailand when there is no record of them ever leaving?

1 more point, what's the diff if a baby born in Thailand gets an Australian pp if they have never left Thailand before but headed to Australia? Same question as you proposed 7x7 just mirrored yeah? Answer, far as I know is nothing. It's issued legally, country of issue means nothing. Long as the embassy of the country concerned has approved it

This time I'm right, surely?

[samran]

What happens if the child then tries to enter Thailand with a Thai passport issued in Thailand when there is no record of them ever leaving?

All thai passports are issued in Thailand, even the ones applied for overseas.

Entering with no record of leaving is fine. It is pretty clear from the place of birth that it would have been difficult to leave Thailand if you weren't born there...

[samran]

What happens if the child then tries to enter Thailand with a Thai passport issued in Thailand when there is no record of them ever leaving?

1 more point, what's the diff if a baby born in Thailand gets an Australian pp if they have never left Thailand before but headed to Australia? Same question as you proposed 7x7 just mirrored yeah? Answer, far as I know is nothing. It's issued legally, country of issue means nothing. Long as the embassy of the country concerned has approved it

This time I'm right, surely?

Yep you are right. Exactly may kids situation.

Leave on the Thai PP, enter oz on the Australian pp.

[7by7]

What happens if the child then tries to enter Thailand with a Thai passport issued in Thailand when there is no record of them ever leaving?

Good point.

What does happen? Options.., you show cust/imm the country of birth issued passport then on depart show the Thai passport right? Then the issue of overstay arrises as they want to see the same pp on depart. So you have to show the Thai pp on arrival and explain yourself right? Tell cust/imm it's a replacement? Possibly would work. Think I would shove my wife in front of them and let her do the talking! They can't say no can they? Not worth telling a fib, just explain the story, it's a Thai national after all.

7x7 can you give the right answer please?

No, which is why I asked the question.

Thanks to Samran for answering it.