MPH to scrutinize a private Thai hospital refusing to take pregnant lady in labor

[DocN]

I really don't know what any government has to do with this?!

Every doctor, every nurse has a CHOICE!

In fact EVERYBODY has!

You see a person in need and you have a CHOICE to help or to close your eyes and hope the problem just goes away!

It is despicable to turn this pregnant woman away, who was obviously in pain, just because she might not have the money!

This is also not about the father (although he is a scumbag as well).

This is simply about doctors, not doing what doctors should do: help the sick!

The hospital would not let her in. How were the doctors to know? Do you think they wander the streets looking for sick people? alt=facepalm.gif>

Bit on the high horse today, again? Please point out, where exactly I said, that the doctors turned her away?! And who actually is at the "gates" of the hospital? Muscled bouncers? Last time I went, the first people you talk to are nurses! Duh!

Wasn't this the same hospital where patients and visitors were drugged and robbed a few days ago?

Never mind Hippocrates, patients should look to Dante...... "Abandon all hope, all who enter here"

"Wasn't this the same hospital where patients and visitors were drugged and robbed a few days ago?"

I don't know you tell us. the article did not name the hospital You apparently are privy to information on the case care to tell it all?

...and luckily there are no OTHER newspapers, which report on this, with name and all!

[GentlemanJim]

I'm not sure if the hospital should bear the full brunt of the baby's death.

What about the father of the baby ? Where was he when the baby and the mother needed him most ?

Bit of an assumption to jump to. Premature birth by 3 months, he could be away working, he could be in another part of the country, he could be dead, he could be in jail. The baby wasn't due for 3 months.

You meant presumption? No, I didn't presume where the father might have been, just as I was quoted correctly.

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Did you mean incorrectly? No I didn't quote you incorrectly, and I meant assumption, not presumption. You assume the Father is around and you assume he is alive and you assume he was responsible for the Mother. Still, rookies have a lot to learn eh

[samjaidee]

I'm not sure if the hospital should bear the full brunt of the baby's death.

What about the father of the baby ? Where was he when the baby and the mother needed him most ?

Maybe he's overseas working as an underpaid labourer in Europe to support his wife.

Maybe he hasn't heard yet that his wife has just lost their baby since he's denied access to a telephone.

Maybe you're heartless.

Maybe your just spouting without knowing the full facts of the case. Maybe.

[ableguy]

I'm not sure if the hospital should bear the full brunt of the baby's death.

What about the father of the baby ? Where was he when the baby and the mother needed him most ?

bloody hell get real, where are most Thai dads.

[ableguy]

I'm not sure if the hospital should bear the full brunt of the baby's death.

What about the father of the baby ? Where was he when the baby and the mother needed him most ?

Maybe he's overseas working as an underpaid labourer in Europe to support his wife.

Maybe he hasn't heard yet that his wife has just lost their baby since he's denied access to a telepho

Maybe you're heartless.

Maybe your just spouting without knowing the full facts of the case. Maybe.

Who ever said she was married ?????

[LazyCat]

someone said that 13k would not cover a tenth part of the delivery cost in private hospital dont know what they are talking about, i have delivered in Bamrungrad 8 years ago paid 35k, now with time the price grew to the 53k, me thinks the woman did not attempt to go to Bamrungrad for the delivery . And never was i asked to make any deposit or pay upfront for the delivery, i delivered twice going for the third time now.

I dont understand why she did not go to goverment hospital, knowing that she has no money to cover the cost, why show up at the doors of a private hospital, and if she was sent away from there why not at least try to go to a government hospital ???

[Gonsalviz]

It wouldn't hurt to scrutinize at least some of the government hospitals. I just experienced a 2 day nightmare.

[Thai at Heart]

The Hypocratic Oath starts " First Do No Harm " but here it seems to be " do nothing until you get a deposit or are sure the patient is good for it ".

The Hippocratic Oath (named after Hippocrates) is an oath traditionally sworn by physicians and others in the medical field to protect the lives and rights of patients. Obviously not followed in this case by the hospital.

It would appear that in this story the hospital was following the Hypocritic Oath.

(A hypocrite preaches one thing, and does another. Rather like many people in government and other responsible positions)

I remember hearing that the medical association in Thailand often does not take the Hippocratic oath.. Remember the debates about the doctors at the hospitals refusing to treat red shirts.

Medical moral action in Thailand can diverge from the expected norm by quite a long way

[NongKhaiKid]

The Hypocratic Oath starts " First Do No Harm " but here it seems to be " do nothing until you get a deposit or are sure the patient is good for it ".

The Hippocratic Oath (named after Hippocrates) is an oath traditionally sworn by physicians and others in the medical field to protect the lives and rights of patients. Obviously not followed in this case by the hospital.

It would appear that in this story the hospital was following the Hypocritic Oath.

(A hypocrite preaches one thing, and does another. Rather like many people in government and other responsible positions)

I remember hearing that the medical association in Thailand often does not take the Hippocratic oath.. Remember the debates about the doctors at the hospitals refusing to treat red shirts.

Medical moral action in Thailand can diverge from the expected norm by quite a long way

Thanks for that, it could go someway to explaining things.

However what's in an oath especially here ? There are so many oaths for so many occasions in which all concerned to be honest and doing everything above board etc. e.g. the election oaths ! LOL ... definitely all above board there.

[Thai at Heart]

The Hypocratic Oath starts " First Do No Harm " but here it seems to be " do nothing until you get a deposit or are sure the patient is good for it ".

The Hippocratic Oath (named after Hippocrates) is an oath traditionally sworn by physicians and others in the medical field to protect the lives and rights of patients. Obviously not followed in this case by the hospital.

It would appear that in this story the hospital was following the Hypocritic Oath.

(A hypocrite preaches one thing, and does another. Rather like many people in government and other responsible positions)

I remember hearing that the medical association in Thailand often does not take the Hippocratic oath.. Remember the debates about the doctors at the hospitals refusing to treat red shirts.

Medical moral action in Thailand can diverge from the expected norm by quite a long way

Thanks for that, it could go someway to explaining things.

However what's in an oath especially here ? There are so many oaths for so many occasions in which all concerned to be honest and doing everything above board etc. e.g. the election oaths ! LOL ... definitely all above board there.

Well yes, but I was shocked when this came out. They make some kind of oath, but is very different from the Hippocratic oath as we understand it.

Basically, the poor woman should never have been turned away and the admin or doctors responsible are a disgrace. That said, on average I have had the chance to deal with several brilliant doctors in Thailand.

It is a horribly hit and miss affair not made any better by the overt commercialisation of health care in Thailand.