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Who cares if he couldnt sing or play guitar, he had attitude.

Told it like it was, life on the streets, none of your poncy going to Kalifornia with flowers in your hair rubbish.

Nothing pretentious about the man or his music, from probably his last decent album, New York 1989.

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Why should he do it for his own country? He did it for me too, for the whole world! And yes his songs are beautiful and the lyrics are

good. HE IS A Hero!!

He was a sad nobody that will be forgotten once the 60's generation follows him, a rude obnoxious self centred junkie. You can have such heroes if you like but the word used to mean something.

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sms747, you have a right to your opinion, and have made it very clear.

Now do the decent thing and leave this topic to those of us who actually liked the man's music.

I can see no valid reason for you to do otherwise.

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I actually got misty after I read this. Sometimes getting older means saying goodbye so many times that I may just die from being sick of saying farewell.

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so people can post, as long as it's the junkie's fan club? (in your opinion) I do not agree.

I am neither a junkie, or from the '60s, but I do love music.

Please tell me the names of the bands you listen to, what singers/lyricists you listen to, the man was a social commentator, he sang about what he saw on the streets around him.

Nothing pretentious about the mans music, one chord is enough, twos complicated, three is verging on jazz.

I would rather listen to Lou than some obnoxious <deleted> like Bono (who BTW was influenced by The Velvets).

The Velvets, probably the greatest rock n roll band in the world ever, how many picked the first Velvets album and decided to form a band, too many to list.

This wont win a Pulizer prize, what a song, Lou at his best,

Please tell me any other person or band who can sum it up the way Lou did?

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the negative posts here, just the way he would have wanted it...lou will never die

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Lou Reed was an obnoxious pric, and was rude in the 60's and 70's; but he survived. A lot of his generation didn't. But his music over time transformed, Lou Reed also transformed over time. He got clean. He lived with Hep C. He had a liver transplant.

For a lot of people who have followed his work and moved on from the past demons, one can relate to the music.

This ls Lou's legacy. He wrote about parts of life that happened.

I can't understand why a person needs to put shit on a man that has just died. None of us are perfect.

One thing is that I too am surviving from a path that we not always choose. I relate to the music Lou Reed wrote and shared.

Again RIP Lou.

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I did not like much of his music and the whole twisted junky, bi-sexual pose did not help. I have to admit that his song "Heroin" had a lot to do with me wanting to try it though. What a good song.

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so people can post, as long as it's the junkie's fan club? (in your opinion) I do not agree.

Please tell me any other person or band who can sum it up the way Lou did?

I doubt you would have heard of the musicians I like, just what did lou sum up? apart from depression, drug use and being self centred?

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I did not like much of his music and the whole twisted junky, bi-sexual pose did not help. I have to admit that his song "Heroin" had a lot to do with me wanting to try it though. What a good song.

which begs the question how many deaths is Lou responsible for by glorifying heroin use? he was lucky as jacking up only gave him hep c. There was nothing trendy or fashionable about glorifying injecting yourself with herion.

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so people can post, as long as it's the junkie's fan club? (in your opinion) I do not agree.

Please tell me any other person or band who can sum it up the way Lou did?

I doubt you would have heard of the musicians I like, just what did lou sum up? apart from depression, drug use and being self centred?

Go on, try us.

We may not be the knuckle dragging philistines you believe us to be.

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so people can post, as long as it's the junkie's fan club? (in your opinion) I do not agree.

Please tell me any other person or band who can sum it up the way Lou did?

I doubt you would have heard of the musicians I like, just what did lou sum up? apart from depression, drug use and being self centred?

White light, white heat and Sunday Morning? There's a fair summing in both.

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so people can post, as long as it's the junkie's fan club? (in your opinion) I do not agree.

Please tell me any other person or band who can sum it up the way Lou did?

I doubt you would have heard of the musicians I like, just what did lou sum up? apart from depression, drug use and being self centred?

I am waiting for this list .

It would be ironical if this list mentioned musos like John Cale,Phillip Glass , Kronus Quartet, and Laurie Anderson plus many other artists from the creative side of music.I am wondering if you have ever listened to his music or just read the tabloid press instead.

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This morning been listening to Man Maliwan, Ying Lee and Siriporn Ampaipong, all more worthy than an American junkie trying to take others to hell with him.

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..but we live in degenerate times....what did you expect...whistling.gif

Something a bit more inspirational or uplifting perhaps, rather than the glorification of drug use and self abuse. Take a walk on the wild side, no thanks I'll leave the gutter to Lou.

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Something a bit more inspirational or uplifting perhaps, rather than the glorification of drug use and self abuse. Take a walk on the wild side, no thanks I'll leave the gutter to Lou.

We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan

Lou Reed represented much that I abhore, especially regarding drugs, but he did it full on without apology and before anyone else. In the meantime, he gave us all something special along the road to self destruction.

I for one, am glad he lived; he inspired me and many of the same generation as much for what he did good as bad.

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..but we live in degenerate times....what did you expect...whistling.gif.pagespeed.ce.FVjgnKnWS1.pn alt=whistling.gif width=19 height=18>

Something a bit more inspirational or uplifting perhaps, rather than the glorification of drug use and self abuse. Take a walk on the wild side, no thanks I'll leave the gutter to Lou.

What is your problem? If you don't like his music, don't listen to it. It's not like it's being blasted out in public places like K-Pop or anything. Those who enjoy his music need to seek it out. Those who don't can safely ignore it.

By the way, when did he ever "glorify" drug use? Have you ever actually listened to his music?

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I have deleted one post, but there are others that should be deleted. I didn't particularly care for his music, although I do like a few songs and some of his work is quite memorable. He is now deceased. If he is of no interest to you, then don't post.

Argumentative posts are simply trolling to get a reaction. You will get a reaction. You will get a warning and a suspension.

Stay on topic.

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This morning been listening to Man Maliwan, Ying Lee and Siriporn Ampaipong, all more worthy than an American junkie trying to take others to hell with him.

OK, we get it.

You prefer sugary love songs which all sound the same to thought provoking lyrics.

I wont condemn you for your taste, if you don't condemn me for mine. Which ranges from Bach to Motorhead via Vivaldi, Mozart, Shostakovich, Fairport Convention, John Lee Hooker, The Who, Hawkwind, The Clash, Clash (know the difference?) Carabao to name very few. So is far wider ranging than yours, I suspect.

But, each to their own. You like what you like, I like what I like.

As I said to you before, as you obviously do not like the man and his music and have made that clear (as is your right) one has to wonder why you continue to post in this topic.

I can only think of one reason.

Can someone please tell me, where is Thailands equivalent of Lou Reed?

Anyone who lives here and reads Thai, only has to look at the ticker tape on the news chanel, xxxxx(insert whatever province you want) Yaa baa or yaa setptic yut.

I wont knock morlam or luk tung, I listen to it in the car, 95.0 FM, Mahanakorn family blah blah blah, its one of the easiest for me to listen to, and the lyrics are easy to understand.

Personally I prefer the music of lets say Bodyslam, but thats another topic..

None of the above could ever be considered, avant garde, ground breaking, or in yer face, more like Thailands equivalnet of such rubbish as Bananarama.

Where is Thailands, Roxy Music, David Bowie, Elton John, Kraftwerk for example.

Marx was right, opium for the people (or was that Daved Allen of Gong?)

Thai music, I prefer the mighty Waipot Petsuwan.

But, each to their own. You like what you like, I like what I like.

Personally, I know what I like in my wardrobe (7x7 will understand), not even a group I listen to, too much prog rock wank, a la ELP and Focus.

RIP Lou, saw you many times, always put on a top show, personal favourite, Brixton Acadamey Dec 1984, saw you again at Wembley in 1987 when you blew U2 off the stage, that being said, The Pogues blew you away.

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According to the obits he gave up the drugs scene many years back.

I was never a great fan but he had some interesting things to say. One that made me laugh today about playing the guitar. "One chord is fine, two that's pushing it, and three, that's jazz".

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^^^^,

anyone familiar with the man and his music is well aware of that.

One of his better albums, 1984s New Sensations,

Listen to the lyrics, a man getting his shit together (been to Hell and back), believe me Lou released some utter crap (The Bells), who these days actually listens to Metal Machine Music, funny how it preceeds Neil Youngs Arc Weld by at least 15 years.

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This morning been listening to Man Maliwan, Ying Lee and Siriporn Ampaipong, all more worthy than an American junkie trying to take others to hell with him.

OK, we get it.

You prefer sugary love songs which all sound the same to thought provoking lyrics.

I wont condemn you for your taste, if you don't condemn me for mine. Which ranges from Bach to Motorhead via Vivaldi, Mozart,

No I do not prefer love songs, nor have I condemned anyone for their tastes. Lou Reed, IMO was an overrated underground Icon that was considered 'cool' to be into, at the time at least. He was a heroin addict, he could not sing well or play the guitar well, wrote one or two remembered songs, big deal that's it. Ask anyone under 30 and they have never heard of the deadbeat.

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Where is Thailands, Roxy Music, David Bowie, Elton John, Kraftwerk for example.

Marx was right, opium for the people (or was that Daved Allen of Gong?)

Thai music, I prefer the mighty Waipot Petsuwan.

There have been many innovators in Thai music but it would not be fair to compare them with western rock, why is that always some sort of benchmark for everything else to be measured against?

Do you mean Waipot Petsuphan the old luktung and now mostly lae singer?

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This morning been listening to Man Maliwan, Ying Lee and Siriporn Ampaipong, all more worthy than an American junkie trying to take others to hell with him.

OK, we get it.

You prefer sugary love songs which all sound the same to thought provoking lyrics.

I wont condemn you for your taste, if you don't condemn me for mine. Which ranges from Bach to Motorhead via Vivaldi, Mozart,

No I do not prefer love songs, nor have I condemned anyone for their tastes. Lou Reed, IMO was an overrated underground Icon that was considered 'cool' to be into, at the time at least. He was a heroin addict, he could not sing well or play the guitar well, wrote one or two remembered songs, big deal that's it. Ask anyone under 30 and they have never heard of the deadbeat.

I would dare say there are many excellent songwriters and musicians from the 60s and 70s that most people under 30 have never heard of. Measuring someone's worth by their level of fame among a generation raised on commercial hip-hop and K-Pop seems pretty pointless.

There are plenty of Lou Reed's songs that bore the hell out of me and then there are a few that I consider among the best ever written. Whether your average 20 year old has them on their mobile phone or not really doesn't affect my enjoyment of them.

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