WHY are there no TOILETS at any MRT stations?

jbrain · October 28, 2013

HeijoshinCool, unlike myself I suspect that you have never come close to a terrorist attack.

I was minutes away from being blown up by the IRA in Guildford in 1974; the friend I was going to meet was already in the Horse and Groom when the bomb exploded.

I was travelling on the tube on the morning of 7th July 2005.

We in the UK have lived with the terrorist threat for far longer than most in the Western world; we know that not every bomb can be stopped.

As the IRA said after failing to kill Thatcher with the Brighton bomb in 1984: "Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always."

But we also appreciate sensible precautions to reduce the risk.

Maybe you can remind us then how many bomb attacks, or even attempts, there have been in Bangkok in the past.

There was the Iranian blokes that blew themselves up, there was the New years bombs a few years back, there's been plenty, as I recall

So two, is plenty these days ?

What 7by7 was talking about was more like 2 a week.

7by7 · October 28, 2013

Two examples for those who, like jbrain, either never knew or have forgotten:

2006 Bangkok bombings

2012 Bangkok bombings

brewsterbudgen · October 28, 2013

Maybe logic suggests it..but dont confuse logic with thai logic.

Thai logic? There are hardly any toilets at central London tube stations either.

Hardly any? I think that you will find there are none.

Wrong.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/toilets-map.pdf

7by7 · October 28, 2013

So two, is plenty these days ?

What 7by7 was talking about was more like 2 a week.

Three examples spread over 31 years is not two a week!

Even at the height of the IRA campaign, the UK did not suffer attacks of that frequency.

Probably due to sensible precautions such as removing easy access to obvious hiding places.

jbrain · October 28, 2013

Two examples for those who, like jbrain, either never knew or have forgotten:

2006 Bangkok bombings

2012 Bangkok bombings

So again, that is two in seven years time, I think most countries in Europe had two bomb events in the past 7 years.

Do they also no toilets in the train stations for that reason ?

7by7 · October 28, 2013

Maybe logic suggests it..but dont confuse logic with thai logic.

Thai logic? There are hardly any toilets at central London tube stations either.

Hardly any? I think that you will find there are none.

Wrong.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/toilets-map.pdf

As other posters, including yourself, have previously said, there are some; but not many.

Also, as said before, those that do exist are usually staffed and you have to pay to use them.

From that list: 11 tube stations have toilets. There are 270 stations on the tube network. That's just 4% with toilets.

The others on the list, not that there are many, are all in national rail stations or bus stations.

Edited October 28, 2013 by 7by7

jbrain · October 28, 2013

So two, is plenty these days ?

What 7by7 was talking about was more like 2 a week.

Three examples spread over 31 years is not two a week!

Even at the height of the IRA campaign, the UK did not suffer attacks of that frequency.

Probably due to sensible precautions such as removing easy access to obvious hiding places.

Three is the number of examples you gave.

I count 24 Bomb attacks of the IRA only between 1990 and 2001, and that is not included attacks from other terrorist organizations during the same period.

This is not comparable to Thailand in the slightest, so saying that is the reason why there are no toilets at the MRT stations is pure shit. And that is pun intended.

Totster · October 28, 2013

Not just a Thai thing.

BOOM !!

We have a winner !!!

totster

7by7 · October 28, 2013

Two examples for those who, like jbrain, either never knew or have forgotten:

2006 Bangkok bombings

2012 Bangkok bombings

So again, that is two in seven years time, I think most countries in Europe had two bomb events in the past 7 years.

Do they also no toilets in the train stations for that reason ?

I believe so; yes.

Certainly I have never found a toilet on the Paris Metro; though I do believe there are some.

But we are getting side tracked.

The Thai bashers have tried to use this topic to, yet again, prove their superiority over the Thais.

Myself, and others, are simply pointing out that the lack of toilets on mass transit stations is not a Thai thing; it's normal worldwide.

For many reasons, security being one of them.

brewsterbudgen · October 28, 2013

As other posters, including yourself, have previously said, there are some; but not many.

Also, as said before, those that do exist are usually staffed and you have to pay to use them.

From that list: 11 tube stations have toilets. There are 270 stations on the tube network. That's just 4% with toilets.

The others on the list, not that there are many, are all in national rail stations or bus stations.

Yes. I was just the correcting the poster who incorrectly stated that there are "none".

StreetCowboy · October 28, 2013

So two, is plenty these days ?

What 7by7 was talking about was more like 2 a week.

Three examples spread over 31 years is not two a week!

Even at the height of the IRA campaign, the UK did not suffer attacks of that frequency.

Probably due to sensible precautions such as removing easy access to obvious hiding places.

Three is the number of examples you gave.

I count 24 Bomb attacks of the IRA only between 1990 and 2001, and that is not included attacks from other terrorist organizations during the same period.

This is not comparable to Thailand in the slightest, so saying that is the reason why there are no toilets at the MRT stations is pure shit. And that is pun intended.

I've no idea why there have been no bomb attacks reported in Bangkok due to the troubles in the Deep South, but that unrest certainly makes Ulster look like a picnic. I'd not like to be in the first MRT Station that was bombed.

SC

bifftastic · October 29, 2013

The main reason why there are no toilets in stations, is because they're stations.

How much time do people usually spend at stations?

harrry · October 29, 2013

The main reason why there are no toilets in stations, is because they're stations.

How much time do people usually spend at stations?

How much time do people spend between entering a station and leaving a station?

Stations are just one part of the system.

In australia the WA Deparment of family services (or whatever it is called now) refused to allow people to have toilets even though their clients were families mostly mothers who had to accompanied by children and had to wait several hours there often.

Edited October 29, 2013 by harrry

chappie1207 · October 29, 2013

The main reason why there are no toilets in stations, is because they're stations.

How much time do people usually spend at stations?

How much time do people spend between entering a station and leaving a station?

Stations arfe just one part of the system.

All I know is in this country where pollution is very high, getting a dodgy tummy can happen instantly and without warning, and it doesn't matter how long you are at the station, if you need to go YOU NEED TO GO!!!!!

bifftastic · October 29, 2013

If the frequency of the service is, say, three minutes, then the answer would be about six minutes (time to buy a ticket and get to the platform).

Then a journey, which in an urban environment is usually counted in minutes rather than hours. Then you leave the system and are out in the big wide world again, where you can look for a toilet.

Mainline services, which normally take you from city to city, and can take hours, usually provide toilets on the trains and in the stations.

bifftastic · October 29, 2013

The main reason why there are no toilets in stations, is because they're stations.

How much time do people usually spend at stations?

How much time do people spend between entering a station and leaving a station?

Stations arfe just one part of the system.

All I know is in this country where pollution is very high, getting a dodgy tummy can happen instantly and without warning, and it doesn't matter how long you are at the station, if you need to go YOU NEED TO GO!!!!!

Pollution gives you a dodgy tummy?

Johnniey · October 29, 2013

Why are there none on any BTS station?

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lomatopo · October 29, 2013

There aren't a lot of stand-alone public toilet facilities here, anywhere.

There are (obviously) smallish private toilet facilities within the subway and skytrain stations; you often see employees, and in-station vendors, ducking in to these.

Many/most of the MRT stations are designed with significant retail space on the mezzanine and/or ticketing levels, but only a few stations (Sukhumvit, for one) have opened to date. I am pretty sure there are meant to be public toilets, perhaps on a paid ( 2 ~ 5 baht ) basis, available.

I think most of us have learned to rely on toilets in attached/nearby public buildings/offices/shopping malls.

TheWizardofRnR · October 29, 2013

Even the NYC subways have one at every station ,when I grew up in B'klyn.NY

Terrible planning! by whoever designed Bkk train system!

Edited October 29, 2013 by TheWizardofRnR

brewsterbudgen · October 29, 2013