Govt will accept Senate decision: PM Yingluck

[webfact]

Govt will accept Senate decision: PM
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The government will accept the Senate's decision on the fate of the amnesty law, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said during a speech Tuesday afternoon.

"Whatever is done by the Senate, I truly believe that House of Representatives will accept it, based on the nation's best interest," she said.

Speaking at 12.30pm at Government House for around 10 minutes, Yingluck said the law should be considered according to the process of legal passage. The Senate, which comprises senators with different opinions, should be able to thoroughly deliberate the law.

She noted that as a premier who had been elected democratically, she wanted to see a balance among the administrative, legislative and judicial branches.

Therefore, her government did not and would not interfere with the Senate's decision.

Meanwhile, the people should discuss the issue rationally not emotionally, and without bias so that the amnesty law could serve as a way of bringing reconciliation to the country.


-- The Nation 2013-11-05

[Tatsujin]

Govt will accept Senate decision: PM

Cos they've already been bought and paid for and the result is a foregone conclusion?

[Nickymaster]

Meanwhile, the people should discuss the issue rationally not emotionally, and without bias so that the amnesty law could serve as a way of bringing reconciliation to the country.

Says the Prime Minister and Defense Minister who only yesterday was crying because her brother might not be whitewashed..

[Robby nz]

Does she really believe this?

"Whatever is done by the Senate, I truly believe that House of Representatives will accept it, based on the nation's best interest," she said.

What has the nations best interest got to do with it ? Its all about whitewashing big brother.

Some of your MP's have said as much, including Chalerm today.

She noted that as a premier who had been elected democratically, she wanted to see a balance among the administrative, legislative and judicial branches.

A balance indeed with the scales tipped right over one way.

Therefore, her government did not and would not interfere with the Senate's decision.

They already have with your MP's lobbying the senators.

Meanwhile, the people should discuss the issue rationally not emotionally, and without bias so that the amnesty law could serve as a way of bringing reconciliation to the country.

Bringing reconciliation ? Look out on the streets and see the reconciliation it is bringing.

[Neilly]

"Whatever is done by the Senate, I truly believe that House of Representatives will accept it, based on the nation's best interest," she said.

Judging by that comment I'd say they already have Plan B loaded and ready to roll (and probably a few others beside)

[LuckyLew]

SSDD

100% useless

[Artisi]

Let's wait and see, which ever way it goes there will be untold repercussions.

[waza]

Govt will accept Senate decision: PM.

Yes because that's the law, to go against it is undemocratic and illegal.........

She noted that as a premier who had been elected democratically, she wanted to see a balance among the administrative, legislative and judicial branches.

Great then Yingluck should know what is democratic.

Is it democratic to give amnesty to criminals or apply the rule of law?

Is it democratic to push through a bill that's opposed by the majority of Thais for the benefit of one criminal?

What happens to the balance when you change the constitution to remove judicial oversights and allow greater legislative self rule?

PS: PM should reveal her amnesty stand: Abhisit

Edited November 5, 2013 by waza

[up-country_sinclair]

The government will accept the Senate's decision on the fate of the amnesty law, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said during a speech Tuesday afternoon.

The SWIFT office in Dubai is going to be working overtime this week.

[webfact]

UPDATE:

Thai PM defends amnesty bill in face of protests

BANGKOK, November 5, 2013 (AFP) - Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Tuesday defended a controversial political amnesty bill that has sparked mass anti-government protests, urging the country to "forgive" after years of civil strife.

Full story: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/679566-thai-pm-defends-amnesty-bill-in-face-of-protests/

[webfact]

PM: Blanket amnesty bill now up to Senate's decision



BANGKOK, 5 November 2013 (NNT) - Prime Minister and Defense Minister Yingluck Shinawatra today called on all sides for unity, to forgive each another and allow the country to move forward, while saying the fate of the Amnesty bill is now up to the Senate.

The call was in response to the current demonstration by a large number of people coming from all walks of life voicing their opposition to the blanket Amnesty bill.

Speaking at a press conference right after the weekly cabinet meeting at Government House, the Prime Minister urged the public to allow the Upper House to deliberate on the blanket Amnesty bill. The 149-member Senate is scheduled to begin its first reading of the bill on November 11. The premier remarked that as the bill has already been passed by the House of Representatives, it is now up to senators to make the decision.

She reiterated that she wanted to see a balance among the administrative, legislative and judicial branches in the country. Therefore, her government did not and will not interfere with the Senate's decision.


-- NNT 2013-11-05

[monkeycountry]

Oh my good. Did she really call a press conference to tell everyone that she "truly believes" that the government will accept the senates decision? She has made it clear to everyone that she is not involved in this amnesty scam at all, so what she "truly believes" does not really matter. Further, the people on the street don't want blanket amnesty, and could not care less what the senate decides or does not decide a week or more from now.

Sounds like she once again has claimed no responsibility, and simply hopes the protesters will just go home and wait for the senate.

I truly believe PM Yingluck is the most clueless (perhaps on purpose) PM I have ever heard of in any country, and I would love for anyone of her supporters to provide any indication that she was ever the "successful businesswoman" they claim she was?

[rubl]

PM Yingluck seems to wash her hands of all this. She wasn't in parliament while Pheu Thai MPs and some more voted for this. Nothing to do with her. Now all blame is shifted to the Senate as 'it's up to them'.

Before the vote in the House PM Yingluck said to wait a bit as still many steps in the process, now wait a bit more to let the Senate vote. Probably then wait a bit more ... ... just till it's too late

[Thai at Heart]

Funny thing is, what else could she say?

We won't abide by their decision? We will nuke the senate house if they don't agree with us? We will pull their finger nails out of if they don't agree with us? We will tickle them if they dont' agree with us?

If the senate doesn't pass it, it doesn't pass, so what option does she have other than to agree with it?

[Muhendis]

Govt will accept Senate decision: PM.

Yes because that's the law, to go against it is undemocratic and illegal.........

She noted that as a premier who had been elected democratically, she wanted to see a balance among the administrative, legislative and judicial branches.

Great then Yingluck should know what is democratic.

Is it democratic to give amnesty to criminals or apply the rule of law?

Is it democratic to push through a bill that's opposed by the majority of Thais for the benefit of one criminal?

What happens to the balance when you change the constitution to remove judicial oversights and allow greater legislative self rule?

PS: PM should reveal her amnesty stand: Abhisit

This thing about "democratically elected" does not stand up too well for me. Take a look at this:-

In its third pre-election report released today, ANFREL (Asian Network for Free Elections) expressed concern over vote buying and the lack of understanding of the new election system amongst voters.

“Today our local partner, the People’s Network for Elections in Thailand(P-NET), has released information about villages in Maha Sarakham where residents in several villages have decided to return money they received from party canvassers to the Election Commission. We encourage voters everywhere to follow this fine example and fundamentally improve the fairness of Thai elections,” said Mr. Damaso Magbual, ANFREL’s Head of Mission.

ANFREL’s report released today details allegations of vote buying reported to its observers involving several large political parties giving cash, in-kind gifts, and payment to attend campaign events.

“The fact that such allegations are made across the country and against many parties suggests that the problem of vote buying is real and prevalent. Sadly, people generally have little faith that the perpetrators will be brought to justice.

“We hope that the Maha Sarakham cases will bring Thailand a step closer to elections free from money politics. We call on all political parties to refrain from vote buying and allow for voters to make an independent decision,” said Mr. Magbual.

ANFREL also expressed concern that voters still do not understand the new electoral system.

“With only a few days to go before the election, it is worrying that many people interviewed by ANFREL observers are confused about how to vote. Not everyone understands the changes to the constituency and party-list systems. The risk is that election results will not accurately reflect public sentiment,” stated Mr. Magbual.

The report also notes that the administration arrangements for this weekend’s election appear to be in place, with the Election Commission successfully meeting deadlines to designate polling stations and select polling staff. However, ANFREL observers have expressed some concern that the level of training given to new polling staff has not allowed them to gain a complete understanding of election law and polling procedures.

[Local Drunk]

UPDATE:

Thai PM defends amnesty bill in face of protests

BANGKOK, November 5, 2013 (AFP) - Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Tuesday defended a controversial political amnesty bill that has sparked mass anti-government protests, urging the country to "forgive" after years of civil strife.

Full story: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/679566-thai-pm-defends-amnesty-bill-in-face-of-protests

She should have taken the stage and convinced these people.

[siampolee]

Meanwhile, the people should discuss the issue rationally not emotionally, and without bias so that the amnesty law could serve as a way of bringing reconciliation to the country.

Pity her brother didn't adhere to that format when he was sponsoring civil unrest in Bangkok, then we wouldn't be facing this current opposition to the whitewash bill the she at her brothers behest is trying to ram through parliament.

[Pimay1]

UPDATE:

Thai PM defends amnesty bill in face of protests

BANGKOK, November 5, 2013 (AFP) - Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Tuesday defended a controversial political amnesty bill that has sparked mass anti-government protests, urging the country to "forgive" after years of civil strife.

Full story: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/679566-thai-pm-defends-amnesty-bill-in-face-of-protests

She should have taken the stage and convinced these people.

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It would have probably gone something like this.

Yingluck: We must forgive and forget for the good of the country/

Protester: This entire bill is about whitewashing your brother and bringing him home a free man.

Yingluck: I have a new purse do you like the color. Now I have to go. Bye bye.

[Sunderland]

If the Senate is foolish enough to vote against the wishes of the business community, student community and everyone else who is against the blanket amnesty bill, then the courts will surely find the bill to be unconstitutional and reject it and plunge the country into further crisis ... or the courts will reject the petition and allow the bill to pass, and plunge the country into further crisis ... or the Senate will vote against the bill and send the country into further crisis.

No outright winners to be had in the short term.

Edited November 5, 2013 by Sunderland

[ridkun]

Choice of words. Accept doesn't mean agree. Accepting that senates have right to disapprove, but in that case representatives will also have right to skip the senates at all after 6 months and submit that very same bill to the PM to propose to the King. All senates and Thais could legally do nothing but just watch them.

[Bagwan]

Yingluck was democratically elected by whom?

I seem to remember Thaksin agreeing to abide by the decision of some legal body and when the decision went against him said that he would not accept it. But then nobody with an ounce of nous believed him anyway.

[rubl]

If the Senate is foolish enough to vote against the wishes of the business community, student community and everyone else who is against the blanket amnesty bill, then the courts will surely find the bill to be unconstitutional and reject it and plunge the country into further crisis ... or the courts will reject the petition and allow the bill to pass, and plunge the country into further crisis ... or the Senate will vote against the bill and send the country into further crisis.

No outright winners to be had in the short term.

But ... but ... all this means that surely it's not the PM's fault.

Edited November 5, 2013 by rubl

[hellodolly]

She says

She noted that as a premier who had been elected democratically, she wanted to see a balance among the administrative, legislative and judicial branches.

Therefore, her government did not and would not interfere with the Senate's decision.

What she should have said if she wanted to be honest (not a Shinawatra strong point) is

She noted that as a premier who had been elected democratically, she wanted to see a balance among the administrative, legislative and judicial branches. As long as they are done the PTPredshirt way.

Therefore, her government did not and would not interfere with the Senate's decision.

As they have Chalerm standing by with two new one's.

[Thait Spot]

Democratically elected PM?

Horse plop! She received not one vote.

She is in that position due to her DNA.

How democratic is that?

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[tingtongteesood]

And pigs will fly and I will win the lottery despite not buying a ticket ever !!!