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I wonder how you get shot in the face when you are being chased from behind. Also the girl wasnt shot, which seems very odd if they can so easily do away with a farang, why leave any witness behind?

Agree with you on this

Something not quite right about all this.. perhaps the girl was in on it, which would explain... well almost everything.

Maybe??? Thats why i think its not revenge or they would have been obvious suspects so they would have done her also. Disturbing trends going on in Pattaya, it's really the bottom of the barrel for thailand these days.

You "proud pattayans" have very little to be proud about, apart from the thousands of hookers, which is why I suspect half of you are there anyway. :DKeep your daft comments to yourself.

And people wonder why farangs in Thailand are getting a bad name.... :o

Because of divvys like you maybe :D

VanZam show some respect.

Let's hope for a reduction in crime the world over, we all can contribute by showing more love to each other in our daily actions, do good recieve goodness back............

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Once again we're getting the same old boring "pattaya is dangerous" when thers a guy thats been killed for XXXXs sake.

When the truth is out then we can comment but for now i think sincere condolences and sympathies are in order for the guy and his family. :o

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Once again we're getting the same old boring "pattaya is dangerous" when thers a guy thats been killed for XXXXs sake.

When the truth is out then we can comment but for now i think sincere condolences and sympathies are in order for the guy and his family. :o

you are spot-on there. condolences, sympathies, prayers to the guy & his family, regardless of what's going on.

but when we see news like this, we tend to bypass the sympathy for the victim, and go straight for trying to understand the WHY. If we know the WHY then hopefully this crime and other crimes could be solved and justice could be served, even though, of course, this will not help the victim.

but i guess the chances of justice being served might be hoping for too much.

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If this killing is linked to the incident two years ago - September 2004 - involving a said Steve Parkinson in Pattaya - a thwarted robbery in Soi Bua koa - then this is going to be a BIG story in the UK.

The UK press haven't forgotten the Samui murder of Katherine Horton by any means.

More bad press for Thailand I fear coming soon!

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PCN being the bastion of journalism that it is, I'll still rather wait until all the facts are out before I jump to any hasty conclusions - bit like the rabbit and the tortoise uh Brit?

And where will you get these 'facts' from when they 'are out'? Where is it that we can rely on to give truthful impartial infromation?

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Uh Howard from PCN told us it was the same people who he banged up last time. Now being a bright lad that you are - can't you make the connection this isn't a coincidence? :D

Howard said it what the same victim as in the previous incident, he did not mention it also involved the same people that got jailed last time by the victim. Or did I miss something? :o

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Hello Thaivisa,

Hello George,

Thank you for your informative coverage of this story.

I received an email with a link from you about 12 hours ago.

Since than I have been desparately trying to access the Thaivisa web site.

It was of course taken off line for necessary housekeeping and backup.

I finally found the story on the BBC web site about 3 hours ago.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4971530.stm

Next time please could you add a ps to your email

so that we know that Thaivisa has not been taken down

but merely closed for maintenance.

Best wishes to all

Jobsworth

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Anyone who knew Steve, although saddened, won't be at all suprised by this..

Oh really?...I was wondering if anyone here knew the guy or anything about him, was he just a holidaymaker or an ex-pat?...

In particular...if you knew him/why wouldn't you be surprised by this?

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Anyone who knew Steve, although saddened, won't be at all suprised by this..

Oh really?...I was wondering if anyone here knew the guy or anything about him, was he just a holidaymaker or an ex-pat?...

In particular...if you knew him/why wouldn't you be surprised by this?

Please fill us in since you seem to know smth.. :o

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Hello Thaivisa,

Hello George,

Thank you for your informative coverage of this story.

I received an email with a link from you about 12 hours ago.

Since than I have been desparately trying to access the Thaivisa web site.

It was of course taken off line for necessary housekeeping and backup.

I finally found the story on the BBC web site about 3 hours ago.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4971530.stm

Next time please could you add a ps to your email

so that we know that Thaivisa has not been taken down

but merely closed for maintenance.

Best wishes to all

Jobsworth

How can a email be sent if the server went down unplanned? :o

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Poor guy man. I hope they find the killers and throw them in jail to rott away. Makes you think twice about going home at night...

By the way two shots in the head is not just shooting at random. That's shooting with the intention of killing!!!

Welcome to the land of smiles...

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Rot away. Capital punishments the way to go, death does serve a purpose.

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Update:New information uncovered in murder of English man in Pong Sub-district.

PATTAYA: -- Some new information has come to light regarding yesterday’s story regarding the murder of Mr. Steven Parkinson from England which may suggest that this was far from a random shooting and may have been premeditated.

Pattaya City News monitors and sometimes contributes to the many Pattaya related chat forums on the internet and thanks to a board member at Thaivisa.com the case has now taken a new twist. He quoted a news article from the Pattaya Mail from September 2004 which involved the victim. He had apprehended one of two men who had stolen his gold necklace. Mr. Parkinson gave chase and detained one of the men in Soi Beokeow. The other man escaped. The arrested man was a 16 year old called Wallop and was charged and imprisoned for the crime.

We forwarded this information to Mr. Barry Kenyon who is the British Consulate here in Pattaya who in-turn informed Interpol and the British Police who are working closely with the Thai Police to solve this murder case. We understand that the Sister of the deceased is now in Pattaya and Mr. Kenyon is taking statements from Friends who are convinced that this was a pre-meditated murder disguised as a random robbery. As soon as we receive any further information on this story we will bring it to you.

--Pattayacitynews.net 2006-05-04

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I find that a bit hard to believe. :o

If its the same lads that attempted to rob him before, surely can't be coincidence Dave?

If it is the same lads then fair enough! If it was the same lads then why did'nt they shoot the girl, she could now ID them. :D

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I find that a bit hard to believe. :D

If its the same lads that attempted to rob him before, surely can't be coincidence Dave?

If it is the same lads then fair enough! If it was the same lads then why did'nt they shoot the girl, she could now ID them. :D

Maybe they never had any grudges with her :o

C'mon Dave, your usually the first to try and protect the image or pattaya.. Shot twice in the face for 300 quid looks much worse than a revenge attack :D

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I find that a bit hard to believe. :o

If its the same lads that attempted to rob him before, surely can't be coincidence Dave?

If it is the same lads then fair enough! If it was the same lads then why did'nt they shoot the girl, she could now ID them. :D

Perhaps the lady was the bait???? (wasn't his gf, so perhaps she was working with them???)

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Quick thought: Maybe she was in on it. They had to know where he was to make hte hit. She can also give a good misdirection on descriptions etc to the cops. Just a thought. (synical bastard that I am)

Posted

I find that a bit hard to believe. :o

If its the same lads that attempted to rob him before, surely can't be coincidence Dave?

If it is the same lads then fair enough! If it was the same lads then why did'nt they shoot the girl, she could now ID them. :D

Same lads or not she could ID them, unless they wore something to conceal their identities. Maybe she was somehow involved. Who knows? Personally, I'd try to avoid wearing conspicuous gold jewelry when mongering around town, and it doesn't seem all that bright to be scootering about Pattaya with a bar girl in tow whilst having "girlfriend" problems. It is, after all, a rather small town.

I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination that he had it coming, only that exercising a bit of discretion goes a long way toward reducing the chances of having these "random" episodes of bad luck that Mr. Parkinson seemed prone to.

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Quick thought: Maybe she was in on it. They had to know where he was to make hte hit. She can also give a good misdirection on descriptions etc to the cops. Just a thought. (synical bastard that I am)

I find that a bit hard to believe. :o

If its the same lads that attempted to rob him before, surely can't be coincidence Dave?

If it is the same lads then fair enough! If it was the same lads then why did'nt they shoot the girl, she could now ID them. :D

Same lads or not she could ID them, unless they wore something to conceal their identities. Maybe she was somehow involved. Who knows? Personally, I'd try to avoid wearing conspicuous gold jewelry when mongering around town, and it doesn't seem all that bright to be scootering about Pattaya with a bar girl in tow whilst having "girlfriend" problems. It is, after all, a rather small town.

I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination that he had it coming, only that exercising a bit of discretion goes a long way toward reducing the chances of having these "random" episodes of bad luck that Mr. Parkinson seemed prone to.

Thoughts of her being in on it had crossed my mind. :D

Posted

Oh well .... a sad but truly not unexpected incident in Pattaya .... Pattaya does draw huge amounts of scoundrels ... both Thai and Foriegn ...

Not bashing Pattaya but c'mon guys .... there are 50,000 perm residents and 50,000 bars :o what would you expect! I'll still pop down for a weekend now and then ...

Hope they get all the folks involved in this!

Posted

Daily Mirror

4 May 2006

THAI BRIT KILLED IN AMBUSH

A BRITISH man was shot dead in an ambush in Thailand yesterday.

Steven Parkinson, 47, was on his motorbike with a bar girl when four men stopped them in the early hours.

He was hit twice in the head but his passenger was unhurt in the attack near sex resort Pattaya.

The gang also took £300 in cash and gems. Police fear it was revenge after he stopped a thief in 2004 - or that the killers were hired by a bitter ex-lover.

Steven, of Hull, recently split from local girl Siriporn Supatra. Their house is now up for sale.

Police have told her not to leave the area. She insisted: "I don't know who would want to kill Steve. He had no enemies.

"But it wasn't me. We were planning to get back together."

.

Posted
This is still an incedent that can happen anywhere IMO.

Yesterday in my home town there was a drive by shooting murder. :o

i will agree with you this kind of thing can happen any where, what i find concerning is the frequency of the shootings of late.

pattaya is meant to be a holiday destination and fast becoming a retirement destination, with that said why can the bib not clean up pattaya before it turns into the wild west, so to speak,

in the uk the shootings and muggings are getting out of hand but i certainly would not choose the uk as a holiday or retirement destination.

i love my trips to pattaya and for everybody's sake i hope things improve, as the authorities are trying to make it more family friendly, reading stories like this is definately not going to help thier cause.

Posted

Hull Daily Mail

A Hull man has died after he was gunned down on his way home from a night out in Thailand.

Steve Parkinson, 47, died in the early hours of yesterday after he was shot in the head in what friends say was an "execution-style killing".

Mr Parkinson, who is believed to have grown up in west Hull and had a stake in a shop in Newland Avenue, had been on a night out with a group of friends from Hull in the Thai beach resort of Pattaya, where he had lived for about two years.

His family have been informed of his death by the Foreign Office and were said to be travelling to the resort.

A spokesman for the Foreign Office said: "I can confirm Steven Parkinson died from bullet wounds.

"His family have been informed and are being offered assistance by the British Consulate in Thailand.

"The police in Thailand are carrying out an investigation into his death."

Mr Parkinson is reported to have been travelling home on a motorbike at about 3.20am with a female friend he had met that evening.

He was hemmed in by two other motorbikes, both with two riders. One of the riders brandished a handgun and fired twice.

Mr Parkinson tried to escape along the isolated road that led to his home, about 20 minutes from the centre of the resort, but more shots were fired and he was killed.

His female passenger, who was unharmed, was forced to hand over money and it is understood Mr Parkinson was robbed as he lay dying. Four men are now being sought by Thai police.

His home had recently been placed on the market after he split from his Thai girlfriend Siriporn Supatra, who has spoken to police.

She told reporters in Thailand: "I do not know who would want to kill Steve. He had no enemies. I had left him a few days previously because we had a row. We were planning to get back together."

The news of his death has shocked the expatriate community in the resort.

Many of them are offshore oil rig workers who got to know Mr Parkinson, who was known as Basher, after he moved there.

Paul Birch, originally from west Hull, said: "We are all devastated.

"He was great bloke who did not deserve this. We are all in shock. We had been on a night out with him and he was in good spirits.

"We said goodbye at about 2am and an hour later he was dead."

Another friend, who asked not to be named, said: "Whoever did this meant to kill Steve. It is like they set out to execute him. He was a good bloke. We want to make sure the police get to the bottom of this."

Denis Smith, 59, who lived in Hull for 20 years but now runs a bar in Pattaya, said he had seen Mr Parkinson hours before his death.

He said: "I had only met him two or three times, but he seemed like a decent man, who had made a life for himself out here.

"He was a popular with a lot of friends. It is shocking to everyone."

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Posted (edited)

I'm in Pattaya for about half the week each and every week. Random violence IMO is still pretty rare. Your average criminal is still afraid of crossing paths with someone more important than him/her (plenty of godfathers or relatives of godfathers riding around on motorcycles, walking around in Pattaya.... unlike in Bangkok where you can typically pick them out with their 8888 or 9999 license plates, drivers and helpers tagging along with them). IMO most crime still follows the pattern of victim and criminal knowing each other (where once the personal barrier is breached, there will be some inter-class crime). If there was any resentment involved, I'd say it was personal rather than some kind of general trend.... especially considering that it's more likely (not always of course) that a farang get the sh*t end of the stick of the typical business deal or personal relationship in the LOS.... hardly something to be jealous of.

:o

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please define "the grubby retiree type" and how that warrents beginning shot to death by anyone

if you cant recognize the type of character i am referring to then you need to get out more.

and i never said that anyone , be it a family man on holiday with his wife and kids or be it the grossest beer bellied unshaven unshowered shirtless loudmouthed dog breathed boozed up scumbag with a brace of cackling prostitutes in tow deserves to be shot , but the fact is that there is a wave of resentment building up towards foriegners here and that wave is fuelled by the behaviour of certain kinds of falangs here.

i hear it a lot from thais , "how do these people come to be here , where do they get so much money from , there are too many now , i dont want my kids to see how they behave"

when these kinds of feelings are present in the host population , then the victims can be any falang.

its racist stereotyping , pure and simple .

the stereotype being based on the worst sort.

we whiteys have been doing it for years with muslims , blacks , irish , jews , etc.

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