Bangkok Police to probe mysterious black-shirt gunman

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Police to probe mysterious black-shirt gunman



BANGKOK: -- Metropolitan police have set up a special team of police to probe into the shooting of students by a gunman in black shirt at Ramkhamhaeng university during the clash between red-shirt supporters of the government and the students.

The shooting and ensuing bomb explosions throughout Saturday night till Sunday morning left three dead and a dozens of students injured.

The Center for the Administration of Peace and Order yesterday pledged to probe into the shooting with no bias with promise to take the gunman for trial.

Action by the center came after Channel 7 reporter caught the picture of a gunman wearing black shirt pointing his revolver to the students and firing. The picture was later shared widely on the social network with some suggesting that it was an armed group set up to protect the red-shirt rally.

An ASTV commentator also showed the picture of the gunman on ASTV Channel and compared him with several past photos of the armed group wearing black shirts with symbol similar to the gunman caught by the Channel 7 reporter.

Police said that the shooting left two red-shirt and one student dead. Several others were also injured.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/police-probe-mysterious-black-shirt-gunman/

-- Thai PBS 2013-12-02

[slapout]

Start with the head of the snake. Jutaporn.

This dozens of buses transporting red shirts to the red shirt rally the day before the rental agreement on the facilities expired, the announcement of "we are shuting our protest toward anti government protest groups down" within 12 hours of the violence and subsquent rabbiting out of the area of the killing by, Jutaporn and supporters may not be proof of anything, but it certainly raises a few questions.

If Jutaporn and others, as reported, have violated the conditions of bail, put the cuffs on them, bring them in for intense questioning, and go from there. Jutaporn appears to be the type that under proper questioning, a day or two without sleep and his choice of food and he would be telling all.

[coma]

As a rule of thumb violence seems to only poke its ugly head up when red shirt protesters are present.

[Emptyset]

'An ASTV commentator also showed the picture of the gunman on ASTV Channel and compared him with several past photos of the armed group wearing black shirts with symbol similar to the gunman caught by the Channel 7 reporter.' One of the main reasons to be suspicious is the fact that he's wearing a symbol that clearly identifies him as a red shirt. Not pinning blame on anyone else yet, but if you were sent in to provoke violence, why would you be wearing obvious identification? I've also heard some bizarre rumours that he might be a cop who actually changed into this shirt from his police uniform. No doubt that Thaksin has used armed men to provoke in the past, and they may have been involved in this incident, but there's also reason to believe other groups might have their forces out there.

[sunshine51]

Deja Vu?

[rogerdee123]

here we go again ..... yes deja vu indeed ... does anyone really think the BIB will find this person? They still haven't found the "men in black" from the last time. Better to blame the bad stuff on some nameless unknowns since they never know who's going to be in power and control the purse strings next.

[somchaismith]

Thailand: Hub of anal probes.

[Nickymaster]

What a coincidence. Jatuporn warns students, Arisman (while holding the Interior Minister's hand) on stage said that they would deal with the anti-government protestors.

A bit of collateral damage but the fear has been created by introducing a third party (snipers shooting at students). Yingluck government issues statement later in the day for protestors to stop because of a third party...(she is concerned about their safety). According to Ramkhamhaeng Uni Director police was not convenient to help and the students had to wait more than 12 hours for the army to free them from their campus.

This is a very interesting situation. Police will start investigation and soon the case will be handed over to the DSI, who will drop it within a few months because of lack of evidence and the MIB again will never be revealed.

PEOPLE WAKE UP!!

[Mampara]

Deja Vu?

Maybe this is a sequel to MIB 3?

[smedly]

the fact the police were not involved (ahem) in this operation stinks to high heaven - the army came on scene to protect the students some time later

I'd like to hear what the students have to say about this as they were on scene at the time, maybe the press could get off their asses and do their job

Edited December 2, 2013 by smedly

[Prbkk]

someone should post that picture on this thread. For those who have not yet seen it, it is truly chilling. Unfortunately there are some serious limits to my IT skills

[TVGerry]

What pisses me off is that the police did nothing to help the students and the army had to come in and rescue them. Police scum are a true waste of tax payer money.

[MikeOboe57]

'An ASTV commentator also showed the picture of the gunman on ASTV Channel and compared him with several past photos of the armed group wearing black shirts with symbol similar to the gunman caught by the Channel 7 reporter.' One of the main reasons to be suspicious is the fact that he's wearing a symbol that clearly identifies him as a red shirt. Not pinning blame on anyone else yet, but if you were sent in to provoke violence, why would you be wearing obvious identification? I've also heard some bizarre rumours that he might be a cop who actually changed into this shirt from his police uniform. No doubt that Thaksin has used armed men to provoke in the past, and they may have been involved in this incident, but there's also reason to believe other groups might have their forces out there.

When you engage in running skirmishes with anti-government protesters it is vital to wear an outfit that identifies you as belonging to the "Defenders of Democracy" to avoid "blue-on-blue" incidents, especially if you plan to use the cover of night. You can always deny your involvement later - and rely on the gullibility of parts of the public.

[century21]

The Question that I keep asking is why there were anti govt. protestors mixed with hired thugs blocking Reds from getting to Rajamangkala Stadium.

The disguised thugs from uruphong who wore black also threw pong bombs (without the inner powder) into a bus containing reds and 40 were injured. Some of the tugs were

also disguised in police uniform, and were caught.

They broke a taxi window containing two reds. And used knives and baseball bats to hurt alot of people.

It was a mess. And it was basically organized by Suthep and company to start civil war, in my opinion.

[coobah666]

Would like to see some of the students take water samples from the police water canons and see what chemicals are in that water. no doubt they would be able to analyze it on campus

[unanimosity]

Start with the head of the snake. Jutaporn.

This dozens of buses transporting red shirts to the red shirt rally the day before the rental agreement on the facilities expired, the announcement of "we are shuting our protest toward anti government protest groups down" within 12 hours of the violence and subsquent rabbiting out of the area of the killing by, Jutaporn and supporters may not be proof of anything, but it certainly raises a few questions.

If Jutaporn and others, as reported, have violated the conditions of bail, put the cuffs on them, bring them in for intense questioning, and go from there. Jutaporn appears to be the type that under proper questioning, a day or two without sleep and his choice of food and he would be telling all.

So, in your quest for what is right and enforcing the law you also want Stuphet incarcerated on the outstanding warrant, correct?

[PoorSucker]

[Nickymaster]

someone should post that picture on this thread. For those who have not yet seen it, it is truly chilling. Unfortunately there are some serious limits to my IT skills

Which picture are you talking about?

[kirk0233]

Has to be a mysterious third hand causing all this trouble since Thais by nature strive for unity. Possibly those Lao Lao or Burmese trouble makers.

[sms747]

As a rule of thumb violence seems to only poke its ugly head up when red shirt protesters are present.

when they are the target you mean

[Prbkk]

upper left...mod just posted it

someone should post that picture on this thread. For those who have not yet seen it, it is truly chilling. Unfortunately there are some serious limits to my IT skills

Which picture are you talking about?

[Yunla]

RIP to the dead kids, again.

It doesn't matter who was in the black outfit, or who funded them, plus you can never prove anything conclusively out here. The blame lies with both Jutaporn and with Suthep. Equally. Stop fermenting division between Thais, stop firing people up into psychology of war. Creating division and corrupting peoples' hearts, is a moral crime in itself, and the repercussions are that innocent people end up dead.

Regardless of who pulled the actual trigger, its the Warlords who set all the playing pieces out for a death match.

[rubl]

"The Center for the Administration of Peace and Order yesterday pledged to probe into the shooting with no bias with promise to take the gunman for trial."

Just read that PM Yingluck has assigned Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul to be in charge of the Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO). This probably means that our unbiased chap will not have time to reply to / ignore requests to revoke a shiny new passport which he arranged for his relative in Dubai.

[anon210]

If Jutaporn and others, as reported, have violated the conditions of bail, put the cuffs on them, bring them in for intense questioning, and go from there. Jutaporn appears to be the type that under proper questioning, a day or two without sleep and his choice of food and he would be telling all.

So, if I understand, you are advocating the use of sleep deprivation, which is a method of torture...

I thought foreigners were more advanced than the rabble attacking police and rioting in BKK.

[Rob8891]

What pisses me off is that the police did nothing to help the students and the army had to come in and rescue them. Police scum are a true waste of tax payer money.

....and tea money

[metisdead]

Off topic posts, insulting posts, inflammatory posts and replies have been removed.

[SOTIRIOS]

...wouldn't put it past the red shirts to sacrifice some of their own......

....they have not shown any signs of fair play to date......quite the contrary.....do and say anything to gain advantage......

[napawan28]

'An ASTV commentator also showed the picture of the gunman on ASTV Channel and compared him with several past photos of the armed group wearing black shirts with symbol similar to the gunman caught by the Channel 7 reporter.' One of the main reasons to be suspicious is the fact that he's wearing a symbol that clearly identifies him as a red shirt. Not pinning blame on anyone else yet, but if you were sent in to provoke violence, why would you be wearing obvious identification? I've also heard some bizarre rumours that he might be a cop who actually changed into this shirt from his police uniform. No doubt that Thaksin has used armed men to provoke in the past, and they may have been involved in this incident, but there's also reason to believe other groups might have their forces out there.

I found some picture. The soldier try to help people, but Thai police......

Cr:https://www.facebook.com/antiamnesty?fref=ts

[Thai at Heart]

Sounds painful

[Halion]

'An ASTV commentator also showed the picture of the gunman on ASTV Channel and compared him with several past photos of the armed group wearing black shirts with symbol similar to the gunman caught by the Channel 7 reporter.' One of the main reasons to be suspicious is the fact that he's wearing a symbol that clearly identifies him as a red shirt. Not pinning blame on anyone else yet, but if you were sent in to provoke violence, why would you be wearing obvious identification? I've also heard some bizarre rumours that he might be a cop who actually changed into this shirt from his police uniform. No doubt that Thaksin has used armed men to provoke in the past, and they may have been involved in this incident, but there's also reason to believe other groups might have their forces out there.

There is also much to the fact that your are assuming this gunman has a certain level of intelligence.