Foreign organisations invited to observe election in Thailand

[rjcampbe]

Remember how the democrats refused to accept foreign observers in 2011? This is how it should be done in a democracy. This is how you can actually get some facts about how fair an election have been.

Suthep:

"I don't respect 'farangs'. We do not have to surrender to them,"

​with regard to election monitors

That's fine Mr. Suthep... We don't respect you either.

Respect is earned... Someday, I hope that Thai politicians on all sides will learn that valuable lesson.

[Baerboxer]

Remember how the democrats refused to accept foreign observers in 2011? This is how it should be done in a democracy. This is how you can actually get some facts about how fair an election have been.

That must be because of they were swindling votes in Bangkok...7,000,000 extra ballot papers printed. The Dusit exit poll( most accurate) predicted to within 2-3 % all over the country, predicted 24 seats for PTP and I think they got nine and Dems got about 15 more than the poll predicted in Bangkok

All rather sad really.....The party of the middle classes cant hang onto Bangkok. Dont be surprised if that little chestnut does not arise within the next 2 months. Did not use it at the last elections because they had 100 more seats than the Dems

Very sad that Pheua Thai lost the by- election in Don Meuang and the council elections in Pathum Thani since the last election.

Normal to lose by elections all over the world mid term. Come the General Election they all return. Pathum Thani thats in the Dem heartland...must have paid for it (see my next post in this thread that refers to the Dems spending more money at the last election on vote buying than the PTP)

I live in Pathum Thani - and you're wrong, On both counts.

[Baerboxer]

Remember how the democrats refused to accept foreign observers in 2011? This is how it should be done in a democracy. This is how you can actually get some facts about how fair an election have been.

right !!! this is why in your country's internal affairs are observed by the UN and other international bodies, right? And I clearly remember that the US elections were monitored by international bodies, no? Oh, no.... they weren't.

Thailand is an independent country and so should be treated and respected.

Countries that a rife with corruption - see the latest world indexes, often have very corrupt electoral practices. That's why they, like Thailand which is a very corrupt country according to the latest index, need foreign observers.

[Moruya]

Why would anyone accept foreign observers in any country? Any sovereign and self respected country shouldn't do that. I don't see anyone monitoring U.S elections and it is well known fact that George Bush won his first election by blatantly cheating in Florida. It happens everywhere. The USA simply set a bad example. Cheating is OK. The problem in Thailand is not only the election day but the whole process. People and their families, kids included are physically intimated in areas under red mob control during and after campaigns. It's absolute lawlessness in rural Thailand. Furthermore, as long as people like Jatuporn and Nattawut, who are directly responsible for carnage, deaths and acts of terror in 2010, are allowed to participate in Thai politics and occupy public functions instead of being locked up in jail for good Thailand will not have a civilized and normal election process.

If OECD were to be asked to monitor the election it would be a very good start, its entirely possible Thailand if it claims to want real democracy as so many do then I can think of no better way than to ask those who do have free and unrigged elections to take an interest. It might learn something.

Its a bit stupid to accuse an opposing side of vote buying and heinous crimes and then whine when it is asking for impartial international observers. It can only highlight these issues if indeed it is so rampant, or of course it may highlight that democratically its just that the majority prefer a certain party to the alternative...

It is interesting the ones that are screaming corruption and all this feet stamping about reforms are the same ones that do not want transparency of the election process. Youd think if sincere they would welcome it.

There's a massive hole in your cunning plan Quercus Saesoneg

I can't really imagine how Thai villages would be policed by a bunch of foreigners whose language skills extend neither to Thai, Lao or Khmer.

It would like like the BBC idiots and CNN morons who took up camp in 2010 and reported it as a tea party for old grannies

[Saradoc1972]

Remember how the democrats refused to accept foreign observers in 2011? This is how it should be done in a democracy. This is how you can actually get some facts about how fair an election have been.

right !!! this is why in your country's internal affairs are observed by the UN and other international bodies, right? And I clearly remember that the US elections were monitored by international bodies, no? Oh, no.... they weren't.

Thailand is an independent country and so should be treated and respected.

Those NGOs are quite liberal in choosing whom to observe and there's nothing wrong with that and it's not embarrassing as such. If elections are held the proper way at the ballot box intimidation or tea money are useless as nobody can know how s.o. actually voted.

The US had foreign observers after the ballot computer disaster in Florida that brought W. Bush's regime to power. Can't blame them. Germany had them after a couple of minor parties got refused to get acknowledgement for the election 2009. The leader of "The Party" (a fun party like Lord Sutch's Monster Raving Loony Party) joked he'd want for UN Blue Helmets. As did Micheal Moore back then.

[umbanda]

Elections??? Who said that will be elections?...only the REDS....and they are out of power. The Democrats wants to have a "democratic solution without elections"..and they will get it. The same sh...... with different smell......Sabai..Sabai pleaaaseee...Hate and Violence do not make sense if cannot change anything....

[robblok]

Isn't it great, how suddenly it seems to matter so much to Thailand, what farang think?

Suthep wants them to see the peaceful protests - when normally he does not respect ant of us.

And the PTP suddenly wants "us" to watch their fair and open elections- when the Great Leader made it very clear that "we" are not his father, when he kills 1.000s of small drug- mules.

...and at the same time, we are treated as second class human beings to the superior Thai- people in almost everything!

Hypocracy, much!?

They want us to prove that .. (insert your side) is right.. if the answer is not favorable it will be like... bla bla bla is not my father.

[MaxLee]

Foreign organisations invited to observe election

Foreign organizations, you better stay away, because you're just wasting your damn time with this lunatic S( C)HINESE circus

[SOTIRIOS]

..they should be filled in on how the election was bought last time...

..then they need impartial interpreters...then they need to stake themselves out in those regions where the Red Shirts 'won' the biggest...

...is it even possible....they would need the help of insiders to reveal the underhanded tactics that went on last time....

...the point is..if this election is bought in the same manner...what justice would it serve for them to simply come and oversee the count of a forgone conclusion...

[bander]

"Foreign organisations invited to observe election"

You mean: Foreign organisations invited to observe the buying of votes during Thai election?

[Old Man River]

Isn't it great, how suddenly it seems to matter so much to Thailand, what farang think?

Suthep wants them to see the peaceful protests - when normally he does not respect ant of us.

And the PTP suddenly wants "us" to watch their fair and open elections- when the Great Leader made it very clear that "we" are not his father, when he kills 1.000s of small drug- mules.

...and at the same time, we are treated as second class human beings to the superior Thai- people in almost everything!

Hypocracy, much!?

DocN, you might be interested on what some Thai's think about strengthening the credibility of Thai elections:

http://anfrel.org/civil-society-organisations-propose-revamp-of-thai-electoral-system/