N Korea threatens to strike South without warning

[X pat]

Sounds like little "UG" is running his mouth agen,by passing the old proverb "be sure brain is in gear before putting mouth in motion".

[metisdead]

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[DGIE]

South Korea will do the first move without warning. But before that, they will tell it to North Korea

[Credo]

The US has security agreements with a number of countries in the area and we have agreed to assist in their national defense. Our presence in their territorial waters and at their bases is with the permission of the various gov'ts involved.

If they don't the US there, it would be more than happy to go home and save a lot of money.

The US, however, isn't particularly interested in cleaning up the mess they make when they start making 'glass parking lots' of each other's cities.

[PeterSmiles]

I think it's time to consider to put Pyongyang in the same league a Hiroshima and Nagasaki .

[Frank James]

Japan and China both NEVER want to see a re-united Korea. Both will continue to encourage the hostilities. A reunited Korea would be an economic powerhouse, rivaling China, and quickly surpassing Japan, as South Korea has almost done already. Also, a hostile regime in N. Korea keeps USA active as "protector" in S. China Sea and SE Asia.

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[Thakkar]

Sorry, but this bring it on macho crap doesn't work with lunatics.

The S Koreans I know are seriously screwed up.

Domineering, repressing and controlling to women, violent and aggressive.

I can't imagine what the N Koreans must be like.

Mostly hungry.

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This reminds me of a socially (societally?) revealing joke:

A Japanese, a South Korean and a North Korean are awaiting their ordered food at a restaurant. The waiter returns to say, "I'm sorry but the freezer was left unplugged and so we don't have any meat today."

The Japanese asked: "What's 'don't have'?"

The South Korean: "What's 'I'm sorry'?"

The North Korean: "What's 'meat'?"

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[GBK]

"SEOUL: -- North Korea has threatened to strike South Korea without warning. A spokesman for the South Korean Defense Ministry said on Friday that the North's powerful National Defense Commission on Thursday sent a fax to South Korea's National Security Council through the western coastal military hotline to threaten to strike the South "without any notice."

Bring it, you fat little punk. There is a more than a sufficient missile defense barrier in place and nuclear stealth subs in your waters that can turn you into a glass parking lot.

Let's get it done by Christmas please.

You may want to rethink that wish.. The prevailing winds blow right this way.

[hawker9000]

I used to have a fax machine. I later had a fax program on my computer.

Hey, I even used to have a land line.

One can't help but wonder how reliable their missile guidance systems are..!

Wouldn't it be something to see them all going up in the air, fizzling out, and falling straight back down....!! Oohhh Shiiiiiiiiiittttt...!!

The size of North Korea's land forces probably shouldn't be underestimated, including artillery & armor. Outfitting and material condition are another question perhaps, but setting something in motion on the peninsula that can only be responded to in real time with the nuclear option, because reinforcing to a credible opposing force level would take time, isn't altogether beyond imagining.

Frankly, I strongly suspect nuclear deterrance is pretty much what's kept this dynasty of psychotics in check all these years. I shudder to think what their acquisition of nuclear weapons would do to this calculus.

Edited December 21, 2013 by hawker9000

[MyFriend You]

N Korea threatens to strike South without warning

Hmmmm that sounds like a threat to me.........if you are standing in front of me yelling "I'm gonna kick your ........." by the time the last syllable came out I would have hit you already - S Korea are not chumps - they may be outnumbered 30 to 1 but can be devils in battle, The goose stepping Northerners can't fight themselves, they only fight under orders...............I fear both the North & the South - if N stikes the S nuclear, the caualties will be in the millions on both sides of the fence. S Korea will not back down.

[edwardandtubs]

Personally I think the US should withdraw from Korea and let them fight it out themselves. The South Koreans are hardly grateful for their presence and it might solve the problem of Samsung stealing American inventions.

[Muhendis]

I recall having read that the uncle was probably instrumental in keeping Dear Leader in check and adverting last stand off. Dear Leader just killed off uncle and starts the threats again within a week. US may view Ithe threats a but differently with uncle out of the way.

Ooooo! This might be more interesting than the protestors. I think I might watch to see what happens next.

[Muhendis]

N Korea threatens to strike South without warning

Hmmmm that sounds like a threat to me.........if you are standing in front of me yelling "I'm gonna kick your ........." by the time the last syllable came out I would have hit you already - S Korea are not chumps - they may be outnumbered 30 to 1 but can be devils in battle, The goose stepping Northerners can't fight themselves, they only fight under orders...............I fear both the North & the South - if N stikes the S nuclear, the caualties will be in the millions on both sides of the fence. S Korea will not back down.

How about a jolly good conventional war. Send in the glorious Glosters again............But perhaps they may politely decline.

[sirineou]

The US has security agreements with a number of countries in the area and we have agreed to assist in their national defense. Our presence in their territorial waters and at their bases is with the permission of the various gov'ts involved.

If they don't the US there, it would be more than happy to go home and save a lot of money.

The US, however, isn't particularly interested in cleaning up the mess they make when they start making 'glass parking lots' of each other's cities.

I agree with everything you say except that we be happy to go if asked.

We are not there for altruistic reasons and did not sign the security agreements because we felt generous at the time.

We are there because we have strategic interests to protect and until these strategic interest are satisfied we are not going anywhere unless we are forced to.

[Ulic]

Everyone pay attention to me. BLAH BLAH BLAH..........

[Credo]

The US has security agreements with a number of countries in the area and we have agreed to assist in their national defense. Our presence in their territorial waters and at their bases is with the permission of the various gov'ts involved.

If they don't the US there, it would be more than happy to go home and save a lot of money.

The US, however, isn't particularly interested in cleaning up the mess they make when they start making 'glass parking lots' of each other's cities.

I agree with everything you say except that we be happy to go if asked.

We are not there for altruistic reasons and did not sign the security agreements because we felt generous at the time.

We are there because we have strategic interests to protect and until these strategic interest are satisfied we are not going anywhere unless we are forced to.

We have some strategic interests, but mostly we have security agreements, especially with Japan who we agreed to protect when they wee forced to change the status of their military after WWII. We also have agreements with Taiwan. A few other countries, such as the Philippines, are asking for some protection.

I would guess that Australia probably gets a little nervous when things get rocky in the area as well.

[sirineou]

The US has security agreements with a number of countries in the area and we have agreed to assist in their national defense. Our presence in their territorial waters and at their bases is with the permission of the various gov'ts involved.

If they don't the US there, it would be more than happy to go home and save a lot of money.

The US, however, isn't particularly interested in cleaning up the mess they make when they start making 'glass parking lots' of each other's cities.

I agree with everything you say except that we be happy to go if asked.

We are not there for altruistic reasons and did not sign the security agreements because we felt generous at the time.

We are there because we have strategic interests to protect and until these strategic interest are satisfied we are not going anywhere unless we are forced to.

We have some strategic interests, but mostly we have security agreements, especially with Japan who we agreed to protect when they wee forced to change the status of their military after WWII. We also have agreements with Taiwan. A few other countries, such as the Philippines, are asking for some protection.

I would guess that Australia probably gets a little nervous when things get rocky in the area as well.

There are more than "some strategic interests"

[Scott]

I believe this thread is about NK threatening to strike SK. If you wish to make a point, please do so. If not get back to the topic.

[Publicus]

"Sent a fax"

Awesome technology....bet South Korea sh1t itself.....laughing!

Here's the dynamic dimwit at his modern streamlined fax machine, sending the message while ordering pizzas..

Which is heavier, your main battle tank or your dear leader?

Good thing I guess there wasn't a paper jam that afternoon at the S Korean Defense Ministry. A paper jam and we'd probably never have any warning the North was preparing to strike without warning.

[tubby johnson]

Yawn.

The South Koreans must be getting so tired of the tedious noise coming out of King Jong Eun's obese face. These empty boasts and threats have become a monthly non-event.

[F430murci]

Okay, my assessment about dude waking up drunk and sending fax may have be true.

Dude apparently said he killed his uncle because he was drunk.

[F430murci]

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un 'very drunk' when he ordered execution of his uncle's aides

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-2956284

[outsider]

What's the matter now? The world's most useless fatty has run out of toys to play with... again?

Edited December 24, 2013 by outsider

[englishoak]

Is this another D day V day or something but without warning by way of a warning ? sorry wrong thread thats another nutjob ... same same but different haircut

[draftvader]

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un 'very drunk' when he ordered execution of his uncle's aides

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-2956284

Let's pray he hasn't got a stag do coming up!

Sent from my phone, hence brevity and gypos

[sirineou]

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[boomerangutang]

Everybody pay attention to me or I'm going to kill this bunny with a salad fork!

[Chicog]

Seoul is 35 miles from the border, so I think that last thing anyone wants to do is to start threatening to turn its car parks into glass.

I'm fairly certain South Korea has a stack of standard pre-written responses to the North's occasional dummy spitting.

[Steely Dan]

I wish the tubby little midget would either shit or get off the pot.

[Publicus]

Miscalculation is the actual problem, risk, danger with this bouncing baby boy Kim and his whole gang of parochial and subservient big hats.

Kim and Co know they can't deliberately and willfully starting something big and come out of it intact. They might survive in their bunkers - might survive - but they also know the glass parking lot they'd come out into. They know that either way they'd lose it all.

So they're not knowingly going to start something big.

It's almost always miscalculation that gets these brinkmanship types of dictators into serious trouble. In 1939 Hitler joked about who would start a war over Poland but it turned out to have been him. Yet Hitler had got away with the Sudetenland, Austria, Czechoslovakia and other obvious territorial grabs of ethnic areas or countries.

Everything I've seen and heard recently expresses an increasing concern that Pyongyang keeps upping the ante as the Six-Party Talks countries get tougher and Pyongyang in return gets more strident. (The US, ROK, Japan, Beijing, Moscow, Pyongyang). The US confidentially has been negotiating one-on-one with Pyongyang for more than a year but has got nowhere in the discussion format Pyongyang had been all but screaming for for years.

Kim's execution of his uncle has signaled a violent and thorough purge of anyone in the regime who is or might be pro-Beijing and favorable toward the Deng Xiao Peng stage of reforms. CCP-PRC president Xi Jinping already had regarded the Kim kid as impetuous, erratic, immature but now has begun to see Kim as violently hostile towards Beijing.

Pyongyang has repeatedly stiffed Moscow to the point that one of Putin's direct mouthpieces to the outside world, Aleksandr Zhebin of the Russian Institute for Korean Studies, wrote in October that North Korea often acted in the past without regard for Russian interests and that this is happening again with its nuclear and missile programs - that these processes are creating a crises atmosphere between Moscow and Pyongyang that almost approaches the intensity the Cuban missile crisis, which is certainly a bright a red flag to any (and every) foreign government.

Pyongyang has only had supporters, never any friends. It seems that now it's losing its supporters. The new trend line is a cause of considerable new concern.

http://thediplomat.com/2013/12/the-significance-of-russias-frustration-with-north-korea/

Edited December 26, 2013 by Publicus