Nickymaster Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 "He said if the revolution came too late and election is held, it could be exploited as an excuse by these corrupted politicians as a shield to defend their status that they are elected by the people and come from election." I've got news for you, Suthep, the government you tried to overthrow were "elected by the people and come (sic) from election". You had plenty of time to voice your dissatisfaction when you were in the democrat party and now even they have abandoned the democratic process so you're on a hiding to nothing. What are blue sky going to broadcast between now and the next "final" rally - edited highlights of your greatest victories? Can you please tell me how in a democracy 1 family can change laws and rob a country to the extent that it becomes a failed state? It is the job of Parliament to enact laws so I don't quite follow your first complaint (I'm ignoring the silly one family bit, as the vote was of the whole house). As to the second part, maybe you should ask Suthep. After all, his devoted follower dear Nibbles has claimed on this forum that he has billions stashed away in off-shore bank accounts. Honestly earned? Pffff really? You talk like Yingluck, "Its parliament that made the decision to whitewash my brother, not the government". Who has a majority in Parliament? And who uses its majority to facilitate its own personal business? And who is using its majority to try to remove checks and balances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibbles48 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) If she remained stubborn and did not listen to over a million voices of the people, wow weve gone from 6 million to 1 million.... and just how many voices cast a vote in an election ? Pffft this guy has really lost his marbles if he thinks 1 million voices is anything other than a very small % .... i wonder what the new marketing gimmick for Jan will be .. whistles are getting a little old and happy clappers are soo last year... need to make that money and sell some more crap they dont need... Actually a million (or 6 million even more so) people that bother to go out and march most probably represents a lot more people that aren't marching/demonstrating but do support them. No polls to back this up, just the normal situation that most people are slow to take action. If nothing else there is a sizeable minority (or majority maybe) of people that are unhappy with the current government and it's policies. Right or wrong, ignoring them is not possible and is definitely not smart. Look at the American Revolution for a similar situation that started small and grew. Please don't think that I'm comparing Suthep to George Washington - I think Suthep has all of his teeth! Well, if that's the case, why fear an election? The only people who think the Dems fear losing an election are the hard core red shirt farangs on TVF or the really backward thinking red Thais. Strange how none of the academics from either side of the political void have even hinted at this fear. Not even YL or any of the PTP as far as I know use this sort of commentary. I think once it was mentioned by a PTP spokesman. But other than that, it is confined to the above. It is all in your mind.... There are many other reasons for wanting reform before elections. It requires the removal of all Thaksin influenced mechanisms before they can go ahead. Edited December 25, 2013 by Nibbles48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newatthis Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 "He vowed that the revolution will surely end in January with no further extension." And my New Year resolutions are.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captspectre Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 let the shooting begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaRanter Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 There should be a book ..... THE VOWS OF SUTHEP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Read the new article online on asiasentinel. (i dont know if it is allowed to put the link here). so just google. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunla Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 He said that the revolution of the people would now mean not just a one-day seizure of any particular place in the capital but “It will be to seize and shut the entire capital throughout the month”. As several aspects of his rant are a threat to the nation itself, it is bordering on treason. I would hold back on the full treason charge, it is complicated, but he is certainly not acting in a way that ensures national security or prosperity, which is getting into the treason sphere. He knows well enough that the problems can be solved politically, but that his backers don't have the support to carry it through without resorting to this kind of unpatriotic brigandage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loles Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 OK, OK, but if they can move these Millions why do they scare of election ??? So can't move only big face and big bull_s_hit text as usually from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 If she remained stubborn and did not listen to over a million voices of the people, wow weve gone from 6 million to 1 million.... and just how many voices cast a vote in an election ? Pffft this guy has really lost his marbles if he thinks 1 million voices is anything other than a very small % .... i wonder what the new marketing gimmick for Jan will be .. whistles are getting a little old and happy clappers are soo last year... need to make that money and sell some more crap they dont need... Actually a million (or 6 million even more so) people that bother to go out and march most probably represents a lot more people that aren't marching/demonstrating but do support them. No polls to back this up, just the normal situation that most people are slow to take action. If nothing else there is a sizeable minority (or majority maybe) of people that are unhappy with the current government and it's policies. Right or wrong, ignoring them is not possible and is definitely not smart. Look at the American Revolution for a similar situation that started small and grew. Please don't think that I'm comparing Suthep to George Washington - I think Suthep has all of his teeth! So what is it's a sizeable minority? That doesn't give them the right to dictate anything or to try to shut down the city. I'm sure Obama is unpopular with a sizeable minority but they have not decided to trample over the majority and close down DC ( other than through elected officials over the debt ceiling). Effecting change in Thailand will not come through a toothless movement led by an unelected , corrupt politician and in particular one showing signs of being mentally unbalanced. Thailand's George Washington...I've heard it all now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 This guy is a Lunatic who is more corrupt than any other politician. He wants to erase democracy in Thailand. I cant understand why he is not arrested yet ...... His story changes every week when he fails. very typical post from one of just 3 prior posts, lacking substance, facts and a personal attack. If Suthep had not stepped in when did, Thailand would become a dictatorship, and that's the plan of the Shinawatra government. This was either a do or die situation for Thailand and Suthep should be commended for his bravery and efforts. Those that just resort to name calling saying how big his ego is and he's a mad man are really very out of touch with reality. He has said many many times, he has no interest in taking a government position, but rather ensuring that that corruption ends and a true democratic country with a government that represents the people equally. Good for Suthep for doing what he's doing. And while we're at it, let's drop the myth that the protestors are only from Bangkok, that is just not true. I have many friends that I am getting to meet their relatives for the first time that have traveled long distances to join the protests. A lot of newbie shills here, why? I can guess You're flogging a bunch of dead horses on here of the vermilion hue. You can lead them to water but you can't make them think. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 If she remained stubborn and did not listen to over a million voices of the people, wow weve gone from 6 million to 1 million.... and just how many voices cast a vote in an election ? Pffft this guy has really lost his marbles if he thinks 1 million voices is anything other than a very small % .... i wonder what the new marketing gimmick for Jan will be .. whistles are getting a little old and happy clappers are soo last year... need to make that money and sell some more crap they dont need... Actually a million (or 6 million even more so) people that bother to go out and march most probably represents a lot more people that aren't marching/demonstrating but do support them. No polls to back this up, just the normal situation that most people are slow to take action. If nothing else there is a sizeable minority (or majority maybe) of people that are unhappy with the current government and it's policies. Right or wrong, ignoring them is not possible and is definitely not smart. Look at the American Revolution for a similar situation that started small and grew. Please don't think that I'm comparing Suthep to George Washington - I think Suthep has all of his teeth! Well, if that's the case, why fear an election? The only people who think the Dems fear losing an election are the hard core red shirt farangs on TVF or the really backward thinking red Thais. Strange how none of the academics from either side of the political void have even hinted at this fear. Not even YL or any of the PTP as far as I know use this sort of commentary. I think once it was mentioned by a PTP spokesman. But other than that, it is confined to the above. It is all in your mind.... There are many other reasons for wanting reform before elections. It requires the removal of all Thaksin influenced mechanisms before they can go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryfrompattaya Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) "He said if the revolution came too late and election is held, it could be exploited as an excuse by these corrupted politicians as a shield to defend their status that they are elected by the people and come from election." I've got news for you, Suthep, the government you tried to overthrow were "elected by the people and come (sic) from election". You had plenty of time to voice your dissatisfaction when you were in the democrat party and now even they have abandoned the democratic process so you're on a hiding to nothing. What are blue sky going to broadcast between now and the next "final" rally - edited highlights of your greatest victories? Can you please tell me how in a democracy 1 family can change laws and rob a country to the extent that it becomes a failed state? I think you are listing to someone who has 3 years of education. It has been proved that many Farangs leave their brains at the airport. You know nothing about this hard working family that is improving Thailand for the poor It is time you work for the poor and help Thailand become great Give to the nearest Wat Edited December 25, 2013 by harryfrompattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunla Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 It has been proved that many Farangs leave their brains at the airport. They told me it was for airport security purposes only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryfrompattaya Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 If she remained stubborn and did not listen to over a million voices of the people, wow weve gone from 6 million to 1 million.... and just how many voices cast a vote in an election ? Pffft this guy has really lost his marbles if he thinks 1 million voices is anything other than a very small % .... i wonder what the new marketing gimmick for Jan will be .. whistles are getting a little old and happy clappers are soo last year... need to make that money and sell some more crap they dont need... Actually a million (or 6 million even more so) people that bother to go out and march most probably represents a lot more people that aren't marching/demonstrating but do support them. No polls to back this up, just the normal situation that most people are slow to take action. If nothing else there is a sizeable minority (or majority maybe) of people that are unhappy with the current government and it's policies. Right or wrong, ignoring them is not possible and is definitely not smart. Look at the American Revolution for a similar situation that started small and grew. Please don't think that I'm comparing Suthep to George Washington - I think Suthep has all of his teeth! Well, if that's the case, why fear an election? They fear because they will get less than 15 per cent of Vote This was figures by the British Secret Service in their later survey I am surprise you do not known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Again with the threats to her family... surely that's enough to get him arrested even in Thailand? He's ordering his entourage to blow whistles at YL wherever she appears. She should hire the biggest most violent bodyguards she can find and they should deleiver a proper good kicking to anybody who does this - in the name of self defence of course 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaze Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Alwyn she already has a bunch of very tough bodygurads. And to her credit- she is asking them to stay home. If she can ride this out without the boys coming to town- Thailand will be the new country some of us dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 A post containing an insult has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fab4 Posted December 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2013 "He said if the revolution came too late and election is held, it could be exploited as an excuse by these corrupted politicians as a shield to defend their status that they are elected by the people and come from election." I've got news for you, Suthep, the government you tried to overthrow were "elected by the people and come (sic) from election". You had plenty of time to voice your dissatisfaction when you were in the democrat party and now even they have abandoned the democratic process so you're on a hiding to nothing. What are blue sky going to broadcast between now and the next "final" rally - edited highlights of your greatest victories? Can you please tell me how in a democracy 1 family can change laws and rob a country to the extent that it becomes a failed state? If Thailand becomes a failed state due to a single family "robbing" it, I'll let you know, how's that? Now would you like to put forward some genuinely convincing reasons why sutheps actions are a good idea and are only for the good of democracy and Thailand? If not, don't bother to question my opinions on suthep 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) "He said if the revolution came too late and election is held, it could be exploited as an excuse by these corrupted politicians as a shield to defend their status that they are elected by the people and come from election." I've got news for you, Suthep, the government you tried to overthrow were "elected by the people and come (sic) from election". You had plenty of time to voice your dissatisfaction when you were in the democrat party and now even they have abandoned the democratic process so you're on a hiding to nothing. What are blue sky going to broadcast between now and the next "final" rally - edited highlights of your greatest victories? Can you please tell me how in a democracy 1 family can change laws and rob a country to the extent that it becomes a failed state? I think you are listing to someone who has 3 years of education. It has been proved that many Farangs leave their brains at the airport. You know nothing about this hard working family that is improving Thailand for the poor It is time you work for the poor and help Thailand become great Give to the nearest Wat Says a guy from Pattaya. LOL. Edited December 25, 2013 by Nickymaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patje Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 The man is completely bonkers !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 "He said if the revolution came too late and election is held, it could be exploited as an excuse by these corrupted politicians as a shield to defend their status that they are elected by the people and come from election." I've got news for you, Suthep, the government you tried to overthrow were "elected by the people and come (sic) from election". You had plenty of time to voice your dissatisfaction when you were in the democrat party and now even they have abandoned the democratic process so you're on a hiding to nothing. What are blue sky going to broadcast between now and the next "final" rally - edited highlights of your greatest victories? Can you please tell me how in a democracy 1 family can change laws and rob a country to the extent that it becomes a failed state? If Thailand becomes a failed state due to a single family "robbing" it, I'll let you know, how's that? Now would you like to put forward some genuinely convincing reasons why sutheps actions are a good idea and are only for the good of democracy and Thailand? If not, don't bother to question my opinions on suthep You let me know what I need to know. LOL. You talk like a Red shirt leader Fabby. Some secret ambitions being revealed there? Suthep wants elections, no question about it. He just wants reform before elections. I don't see anything wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 "He said if the revolution came too late and election is held, it could be exploited as an excuse by these corrupted politicians as a shield to defend their status that they are elected by the people and come from election." I've got news for you, Suthep, the government you tried to overthrow were "elected by the people and come (sic) from election". You had plenty of time to voice your dissatisfaction when you were in the democrat party and now even they have abandoned the democratic process so you're on a hiding to nothing. What are blue sky going to broadcast between now and the next "final" rally - edited highlights of your greatest victories? Can you please tell me how in a democracy 1 family can change laws and rob a country to the extent that it becomes a failed state? If Thailand becomes a failed state due to a single family "robbing" it, I'll let you know, how's that? Now would you like to put forward some genuinely convincing reasons why sutheps actions are a good idea and are only for the good of democracy and Thailand? If not, don't bother to question my opinions on suthep You let me know what I need to know. LOL. You talk like a Red shirt leader Fabby. Some secret ambitions being revealed there? Suthep wants elections, no question about it. He just wants reform before elections. I don't see anything wrong with that. " He just wants reform before elections." YOU don't see anything wrong with that , but a lot of people do because he won't allow a properly elected government to run the country while these reforms are being implemented. And he hasn't revealed exactly who would run the country during this time nor he hasn't revealed exactly what the nature of the reforms will be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Well I guess he has spoken. He is right about corrupt politicians. and he should look in a mirror first. He is the one that was appointed and told police and the army to use live rounds 3 years ago. But that is being democratic in his altered feable mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Do what you want just don't close down the airports my 80 year old mother and two aunts are coming for a visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackrich Posted December 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2013 What Suthep wants is an elected government removed and a people's council installed. I assume that his people's council will not include anyone from Puea Thai, which means he is effectively excluding the majority of the last election's voters who have voted for Puea Thai. This will create a very dangerous situation in Thailand. The country right now is very far from a failed state and comments above suggesting that Thailand is a failed state under Yingluck are obviously not written by very educated people. A failed state is Somalia or South Sudan, hardly Thailand. What however Suthep is trying to do could actually lead to a very nasty civil war in Thailand. When you lead an entire nation through a revolution and everyone or at least a huge majority is behind you, like Cuba, you may succeed. But the Democrats don't even have 50% behind them and Suthep much less. When you're dividing the country like that you could very easily trigger a civil war. Thais against Thais. Yellow against red. This is not a joke, but Suthep doesn't care about that, he only cares about himself. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Asiantravel Posted December 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) hey Nickymaster We are not allowed to post links from Bangkok post in this forum but I encourage you to check the latest headlines regarding the prime ministers proposal for a People's Council to submit proposed reforms BEFORE the election. ha !!! With the proviso that the properly elected government following the election will institute such reforms. What's wrong with that? Game, set and match Edited December 25, 2013 by Asiantravel 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 What kind of organization targets the young child of a political leader to force that child's mother to leave office? Yingluck has used incredible restraint dealing with these Terrorists. What do you think would happen to Americans if they tried to storm the White House? Sent from my SM-N900 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app not targeting children. if you're a caretaker of a child then your actions affect said child. It's a warning, protect your child because your actions matter. Drop the spin. The "news" that whistle blowers went to the school Yingluck's son attends was said to have never happened by the school itself. Propagating lies and "heresay" as effective as it may be, is not very becoming and in my opinion lacks integrity. And, the later news stories about the guards being questioned, by the school administration, about how they let this event that didn't happen, happen, were also made up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ma Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Suthep wants elections, no question about it. He just wants reform before elections. I don't see anything wrong with that. Yup. 30-40 years of rule before they're sure the reform was successful enough to give the people a vote should do it. Democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen33 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) Time for Suthep to make an about turn? Here are his lines. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4 Edited December 25, 2013 by citizen33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Jeesh...........I was just planning a flight out of Bangkok about that time. Might play it safe and fly out of Chiang Mai instead. (starting from Udon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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