Thai Army chief pleas for calm

[pumpuiman]

The army steps in, calms things down for a bit....then what? If they back the government and constitution, the protests return. If they back the protesters, the majority of Thai voters will revolt, and the western world will look at the country as non-democratic. If they remove Yingluck, the majority will again rise against them, and again they look as if they are removing a fairly elected Prime minister to the rest of the world. (I know, I know...fairly is a touchy subject)

Further compounding the problem is that former defense minister General Prawit Wongsuwan and former army chief General Anupong Paochinda are the driving force behind the protests.The present commander-in-chief of the Army, Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha is considered a supporter of the current government. This could lead to a split within the armed forces, and possible civil war. And lets not forget that pleas for peace from other sources have already been ignored.

What could the military possibly do to solve all these problems?

I pray that no more pawns have to die in this game.

[Roadman]

The army steps in, calms things down for a bit....then what? If they back the government and constitution, the protests return. If they back the protesters, the majority of Thai voters will revolt, and the western world will look at the country as non-democratic. If they remove Yingluck, the majority will again rise against them, and again they look as if they are removing a fairly elected Prime minister to the rest of the world. (I know, I know...fairly is a touchy subject)

Further compounding the problem is that former defense minister General Prawit Wongsuwan and former army chief General Anupong Paochinda are the driving force behind the protests.The present commander-in-chief of the Army, Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha is considered a supporter of the current government. This could lead to a split within the armed forces, and possible civil war. And lets not forget that pleas for peace from other sources have already been ignored.

What could the military possibly do to solve all these problems?

I pray that no more pawns have to die in this game.

You are very confused. Khun Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha is Khun General Anupong Paochinda's protegee and appointee. They are also united in both having no time for the Dubai convicted fugitive criminal. Perhaps you should go back and follow the current generals appointment events of 2010 to get your facts correct. And Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha is not a supporter of the present government, but is a supporter of democratic governance which he like General Anupong wishes to see installed hence the constant requests to all parties to try and solve things without violence, and why they are respectfully staying out of what is a political vs people situation and trying to let the judiciary actually do their bloody job like they should. And again your talk of splits at the top also shows your confusion. The only split that has ever occurred in the modern Army is lower down the ranks where Thaksin's boy Sae Daeung decided to give it a go and his rebellion was correctly dealt to, by possibly the Army IMHO as how to deal with Army renegades and a warning to all others, or possibly as others suggest by the Police to cover Thaksin's arse which Sae Daeung was spilling on international news items.

​While a spelling grammar PC Nazi has appeared on this thread their's was the lesser task that was needed to be called. The larger task being the complete and utter bull sh!t being speiled in this thread especially the very early posters criticising the Army for sitting on the fence etc right through to this.

The Army is about the only group showing any credibility and restrain and sound judgement in this whole bloody mess, yet the majority of posters on this thread show their complete ignorance to that. And before the rest of you start, again, Thailand is not a settled modern western democracy where the Army is at the call of the government. It is a lawless, corrupt fledgling at the mercy of dictators, criminals and mafia families and as such the Army rightfully sits as final adjudicator on behalf of His Most Royal Highness, the thai people and Thailand, until such time as the politicians and police actually start behaving like a democracy should.

Edited December 26, 2013 by Roadman

[waza]

He said the police were overacting in the shooting with rubber bullets despite that the protesters have no weapon.

Overreacting and the protesters had no weapons? Except for firearms that they used to shoot a police officer to death. I wish media organizations would be as biased during riots in Europe.

Police Quote ...

A preliminary investigation found that gunshots were fired from a building near the Thai-Japanese stadium into the protest site, he said, adding that a senior police officer, Pol Gen Charamporn Suramanee, was assigned to conduct first-hand investigation...... Let's wait for the investigation Detective......

and strangly enough we have this.........

[pxlgirl]

this tweet is sadder than YL's tears, Suthep's freak show:

@RichardBarrow: We used to whisper to each other about the possibility of another coup in #Thailand. But these days the whispers are of a civil war.

[pumpuiman]

The army steps in, calms things down for a bit....then what? If they back the government and constitution, the protests return. If they back the protesters, the majority of Thai voters will revolt, and the western world will look at the country as non-democratic. If they remove Yingluck, the majority will again rise against them, and again they look as if they are removing a fairly elected Prime minister to the rest of the world. (I know, I know...fairly is a touchy subject)

Further compounding the problem is that former defense minister General Prawit Wongsuwan and former army chief General Anupong Paochinda are the driving force behind the protests.The present commander-in-chief of the Army, Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha is considered a supporter of the current government. This could lead to a split within the armed forces, and possible civil war. And lets not forget that pleas for peace from other sources have already been ignored.

What could the military possibly do to solve all these problems?

I pray that no more pawns have to die in this game.

You are very confused. Khun Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha is Khun General Anupong Paochinda's protegee and appointee. They are also united in both having no time for the Dubai convicted fugitive criminal. Perhaps you should go back and follow the current generals appointment events of 2010 to get your facts correct. And Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha is not a supporter of the present government, but is a supporter of democratic governance which he like General Anupong wishes to see installed hence the constant requests to all parties to try and solve things without violence, and why they are respectfully staying out of what is a political vs people situation and trying to let the judiciary actually do their bloody job like they should. And again your talk of splits at the top also shows your confusion. The only split that has ever occurred in the modern Army is lower down the ranks where Thaksin's boy Sae Daeung decided to give it a go and his rebellion was correctly dealt to, by possibly the Army IMHO as how to deal with Army renegades and a warning to all others, or possibly as others suggest by the Police to cover Thaksin's arse which Sae Daeung was spilling on international news items.

​While a spelling grammar PC Nazi has appeared on this thread their's was the lesser task that was needed to be called. The larger task being the complete and utter bull sh!t being speiled in this thread especially the very early posters criticising the Army for sitting on the fence etc right through to this.

The Army is about the only group showing any credibility and restrain and sound judgement in this whole bloody mess, yet the majority of posters on this thread show their complete ignorance to that. And before the rest of you start, again, Thailand is not a settled modern western democracy where the Army is at the call of the government. It is a lawless, corrupt fledgling at the mercy of dictators, criminals and mafia families and as such the Army rightfully sits as final adjudicator on behalf of His Most Royal Highness, the thai people and Thailand, until such time as the politicians and police actually start behaving like a democracy should.

It's all very confusing, and perhaps I am confused about Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha's allegiance. Thank you for enlightening me.

.Do you agree that Suthep is backed by General Prawit Wongsuwan and General Anupong Paochinda? There are several articles written supporting this....here is just one from Reuters News: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSBRE9BE07U20131215?irpc=932

And if so, aren't these generals responsible for this whole mess? Haven't these protests been a ploy all along, to try to incite violence that could be blamed on the current government, so a coup could be performed?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

[paz]

get real and do the coup. Until Thaksin is gone forever.

Or Allende, or the Weimar republic, or any other expression of power that the fascist doesn't loke. Shameful.

[paz]

And if so, aren't these generals responsible for this whole mess? Haven't these protests been a ploy all along, to try to incite violence that could be blamed on the current government, so a coup could be performed?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

Yes. The coup is due around the time of the failed elections.

[Jay Sata]

he wants them to "abide by law" in Thailand.

What law would that be?

The one that allows the carnage on the roads over the coming week with drunk drivers speeding to the north with 18 people in an overloaded pick up?

Or maybe the law that allows kids of 12 up to ride overloaded motorbikes without a licence!

There is no law in Thailand just one where money talks to suit the situation. Hence rich kids killing policemen and running away.

We are looking at a scenario where the lack of law is soon going to result in a breakdown of society and Khun Thaksin's family will be packing all their bags to be at the front of the line at the airport.

Edited December 26, 2013 by Jay Sata

[pumpuiman]

And if so, aren't these generals responsible for this whole mess? Haven't these protests been a ploy all along, to try to incite violence that could be blamed on the current government, so a coup could be performed?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

Yes. The coup is due around the time of the failed elections.

The point I was trying to make in my post was that the army is behind the protests. They are not standing idly by like the only voice of reason, as some posters have said.

The Army is responsible for this "uprising" and now are going to be the saviors?

I call Bullshit.

Their plan was to overthrow Yingluck, she unfortunately for them has not responded to the protests in the way they had hoped.....She has exercised restraint.

So somebody had to die.

[metisdead]

Off topic grammar police post has been removed as well as a reply.

[diceq]

A preliminary investigation found that gunshots were fired from a building near the Thai-Japanese stadium into the protest site, he said, adding that a senior police officer, Pol Gen Charamporn Suramanee, was assigned to conduct first-hand investigation...... Let's wait for the investigation Detective......

It's obvious who pulled the trigger. The redshirts have nothing to gain from killing a police officer. And it's extremely unlikely that he was shot by mistake.

The brownshirts on the other hand have much to gain in creating instability. And not to mention that it caused the Electoral Commission to come out and issue a statement meeting their demands. Talk about giving into the terrorists. The more police officers you kill, the more your demands are met. They might as well declare open season on the police.

Edited December 27, 2013 by diceq

[Sing_Sling]

he wants them to "abide by law" in Thailand.

Quite funny, isn't it. Well, it would be funny were it not so serious

get real and do the coup. Until Thaksin is gone forever.

Or Allende, or the Weimar republic, or any other expression of power that the fascist doesn't loke. Shameful.

Yes, another joke of course, that the army is only there for the good of the people . . . and far too many swallow that nonsense. People in uniform, in charge of massive arsenals, the harbingers of repression . . . are seen as the saviours.

Astounding