WarpSpeed Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) Not just injured, but critically... http://news.yahoo.com/former-f1-champion-schumacher-injured-ski-accident-media-130943232--f1.html Here's hoping this is not what takes out this great champion, get well Micheal, hopes are with you.. I thought I was hearing a fake story at first, not happy to hear it was true, they say he was wearing a helmet to boot, that's the good news at least or he'd not even be giving it this much a fight if not and at first when hearing, I thought he couldn't have been that foolish not to have worn one... Happy to hear he was that prepared at least. Edited December 30, 2013 by WarpSpeed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 1 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I wish him best of luck. He is so physically fit and with the best medical attention he is receiving he should be ok with a bit of luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post guzzi850m2 Posted December 30, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2013 Yes lets hope he recover. So far the best F1 driver ever and he might first sound arrogant when you see him on the TV but in reality he is a very shy person. He also gave 10 mill US$ out off his own pocket to the tsunami help efforts back in 2004 which tells you a lot about the person Michael Shumacher. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 That is bad news if he is critical. Hope he pulls through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Very bad news. The BBC have reported that he's in a coma and is fighting for his life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 Yeah it's very sad news indeed and I wonder if Filipe will be there to help out if/when he comes around to help him through since he's been there. One can only hope he does recover fully, a head injury can of course have varying degrees of recovery. Many times confidence is misunderstood as arrogance when it's not such a bad thing and completely necessary for people in his sport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 He's not out of the woods yet. When he was wearing a helmet...how the hell did he get such extensive brain trauma??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) Ermm Filipe was wearing a helmet, one much heftier then a skiing helmet actually.. The helmet only protects so much, the brain still rattles inside the skull and contacts jagged edges of bone inside the skull as well just as impact compression injuries, then it swells and often bleeds inside and the tissue has no where to expand so it does more damage from loss of blood that kills brain tissue. Mostly a helmet just keeps from external impacts that can crack open the skull preventing those sort of fractures and further serious brain injuries but still heavy injuries occur, besides a skiing helmet is nothing like a car racing or bike racing helmet in terms of strength. Edited January 1, 2014 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Very bad news. The BBC have reported that he's in a coma and is fighting for his life. That is a medically induced coma due to the swelling of the brain. He has since undergone two brain operations and remains in a medically induced coma. "The good news for today is ... there's no significant changes," Ms Kehm told reporters gathered outside the Grenoble hospital where he is being treated. Source + Video Schumacher's ski helmet 'broke in two' in high-speed crash Source close to investigation says racing driver was likely skiing at around 50 mph when accident occurred The impact of Michael Schumacher’s fall was so severe that his ski helmet “broke in two” when his head hit a rock, according to a source close to the investigation into the accident. Telegraph Been a fan of his for a long time and hope the best for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) I understand their comments about no significant changes being "good news" from the stand point that he's not deteriorating further but it's not really "good news". It's optimistic at best and media speak since good news would be showing distinctive signs of recovery even at this early stage... Edited January 1, 2014 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Very bad news. The BBC have reported that he's in a coma and is fighting for his life. That is a medically induced coma due to the swelling of the brain. He has since undergone two brain operations and remains in a medically induced coma. "The good news for today is ... there's no significant changes," Ms Kehm told reporters gathered outside the Grenoble hospital where he is being treated. Source + Video Schumacher's ski helmet 'broke in two' in high-speed crash Source close to investigation says racing driver was likely skiing at around 50 mph when accident occurred The impact of Michael Schumacher’s fall was so severe that his ski helmet “broke in two” when his head hit a rock, according to a source close to the investigation into the accident. Telegraph Been a fan of his for a long time and hope the best for him. Not being a snow skier myself that comment he was likely doing 50mph changes the empathises somewhat! I can now see how the helmet was inadequate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Yeah skiers can get some serious speed, pro down hillers hit as much as 70mph. You may not know or remember but several US celebs have perished on ski slopes, it's a serious sport. Sonny Bono died when he impacted a tree as did one of the Kennedys.. Edited January 2, 2014 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 Not looking too good, like I said, recovery is subjective, sad news in deed... Michael Schumacher 'may remain in permanent vegetative state for rest of his life'http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/michael-schumacher-news-may-remain-3058072 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcat Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 "....hoping for the miracle that the rest of the world hopes for with them..." Miracles happens....he is a fighter....hope for the best recovery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 1 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Not looking too good, like I said, recovery is subjective, sad news in deed... Michael Schumacher 'may remain in permanent vegetative state for rest of his life'http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/michael-schumacher-news-may-remain-3058072 Shit I hope the best for him, this is really bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveromagnino Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Yeah skiers can get some serious speed, pro down hillers hit as much as 70mph. You may not know or remember but several US celebs have perished on ski slopes, it's a serious sport. Sonny Bono died when he impacted a tree as did one of the Kennedys.. He wasn't downhilling, he was likely just riding like most of us do at medium speed; early season and was extremely unlucky to fall (likely a tumbling fall so that means Gs with the body weight behind you) onto his head which landed on a rock. Happens. Sadly. Downhill is a brutal, brutal sport, there is an excellent film about it called The Thin Line - which is about the line between crazy risk and winning - Schummacher is nowhere near the level of being able to race Downhill (it's a pretty specialist part of skiing), if he raced it would be in slalom of Giant slalom (GS) and from what I've seen he has club level technique - downhill they get up to close to 100mph - almost no protection other than the helmet - you fall and it frigging hurts. trailer: This is one of the greats of skiing, running the world's most famous downhill, Bode Miller in 2008, including riding the fence (briefly at 32sec) By comparison this is Ted Liggity running GS: this is maybe a little quicker but not much than the speed of a fairly quick recreational skier (with a lot more technique enabling him to get around the gates so quickly - this would be closer to the speed (at most) that MS fell at) - often people nowadays will 'straightline' down runs all over the mountain; that's one reason that riding is so frigging dangerous now; you not only have to deal with your own stupidity, but also someone running you down from behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Not sure I get your point and how it relates to my post since my post wasn't talking about Schumacher specifically but downhill speeds in general.. Misdirected & unnecessary post in this thread IMO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveromagnino Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 just adding to what you said, 1. pro downhillers go up to 100mph (not 70mph) 2. downhilling is not really a good judge of speed for MS as he isn't skilful enough to race downhill nor do you race downhill outside of a race course and certainly not on standard skis etc I thought you might find it interesting to understand the difference between the type of riding I would imagine MS was doing and the limit of the sport (which is mind-blowingly fast). If you don't find that interesting then fair enough. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Not good for Schuy, his brain must be very badly damaged if the latest news is correct. If he recovers they say he will only have very basic living skills. Very sad indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) I read somewhere he was not going fast at all; he was off piste but within sight of the slope, hit a rock and fell, as it happens. But he was unlucky enough to hit another rock head-first, which split his helmet and did some brain damage. To me it sounds like a total freak accident. Never wore a helmet in 20+ years of skiing and snowboarding. I was convinced you just don't need one unless you're actually racing. And then for a helmet to be not good enough - that's something. May he yet recover. Edited January 29, 2014 by nikster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) just adding to what you said, 1. pro downhillers go up to 100mph (not 70mph) 2. downhilling is not really a good judge of speed for MS as he isn't skilful enough to race downhill nor do you race downhill outside of a race course and certainly not on standard skis etc I thought you might find it interesting to understand the difference between the type of riding I would imagine MS was doing and the limit of the sport (which is mind-blowingly fast). If you don't find that interesting then fair enough. :-) Thank you but I didn't need the lesson, I'm aware of the speeds etc. of professional down hill skiers and common skiers and I don't want to use this thread to start another silly, one up-mans-ship debate, I grow tired of the know nothing know-it- alls that permeate this board just for the sake of an argument.. I just want to wish Micheal good luck and hope for his best recovery though that seems highly unlikely at the mo. I personally knew a pro sports car driver by the name of Bob Wollack raced and won several championships over his decades long career and was riding his bike to his hotel room as he did every year after getting out of his race car practicing at Sebring. The road was narrow, 2 lanes with no sidewalks and this elderly man driving a motorhome drove past him and hit him in the back of the head with one of his side mirrors and killed him. This driver drove for over 30 years and was still driving and competitive at 57 when he was killed. When your time is up it's up and it's incredibly ironic and tragic for people who live their lives on the edge like race drivers do and then get taken out in a simple, freak and unpredictable accident. If there's any consolation, at least he was taken out quickly without a life of suffering and debilitation like I fear for Micheal. I fear for Micheal if he has any awareness of his previous greatness to loose his faculties in any way and to have to endure such a life as a slow painful death of his spirit, mind and body. Edited January 30, 2014 by WarpSpeed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anto Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 latest news unconfirmed is that they are starting to slowly take him out of his induced sleep state . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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