choff56 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Asked whether she has discussed any political issue with Gen. Prem, Ms. Yingluck simply smiled and left the press conference. It appears this is Yinglucks strategy, smile and walk away or cry and give speech then walk away and smile. Closed door job. No answers given by the P.M. as usual, just a smile. totally agree with your view. Look at it this way, Had I thought for 1 minute the P.M. had done a good job in government, I would have thought it odd she didn't explain anything, she should have commented as the media were barred. This is why posters see the situ as is. her arrogance OR it's not any ones business. <deleted>. this reflects the whole government, you voted us in SO NOW we can do what we like good or bad. Lump it Thai people till our democratically elected term has run 4 years---- Ha Ha Ha. Your ignorance is on full display with your comment. Discussions with a senior privy councillor are not open to the public. Had any comment been made, there would have been a violation of protocol and accusations of contempt. Do you have any understanding of the role of the privy council in Thailand, or do you just see this as an opportunity to take a cheap shot at PM Yingluck? I'll make it clearer: A PM is not supposed to discuss the details of these meetings. No PM who wishes to continue without an accusation of contempt discusses the meetings in public. Oh, is she allowed to private message? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazR Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Asked whether she has discussed any political issue with Gen. Prem, Ms. Yingluck simply smiled and left the press conference. It appears this is Yinglucks strategy, smile and walk away or cry and give speech then walk away and smile. Do grow up, Waza. This was a private meeting. It would have been the hight of bad manners to have come out of the door and start spouting off about "he said this" and "I said that". If you notice, Gen. Prayuth also had the courtesy to keep his mouth shut. I just wish your side could engage in proper debate, and not this constant sniggering and bitching about YS as a person.. And I wish 'your side' could engage in proper debate, and not this constant sniggering and bitching about AV, ST and what happened 3 years ago. She is Thaksin's sock puppet, she has no idea what is going on and won't answer any questions until she has reported back to the fugitive and been debriefed. Yingluck : Please stop those nasty protestors and let me bring my brother back, please please. Gen : Can't. Yingluck : Why not ? Gen : Not my job, army stays out of politics. If it turns violent then the army may step in to stop the violence. So those of you asking what the government has to gain by violence, army doesn't always mean coup. If it turns violent the army can step in to stop the violence and force the protestors away as happened in 2010. Depends who causes the violence hence the 'men in black' and the hit and run incidents from the government side, they want as much plausible deniability as possible. Best post so far - by a mile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Asked whether she has discussed any political issue with Gen. Prem, Ms. Yingluck simply smiled and left the press conference. It appears this is Yinglucks strategy, smile and walk away or cry and give speech then walk away and smile. Maybe they should ask prem what was said?This whole.procession is a slight on democracy. Indeed, although I would hazard a guess that Prem would be equally tight lipped in light of his unique position. One can only speculate but I would imagine that it was more likely an invitation than a courtesy call and that she left carrying a message for her boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Asked whether she has discussed any political issue with Gen. Prem, Ms. Yingluck simply smiled and left the press conference. It appears this is Yinglucks strategy, smile and walk away or cry and give speech then walk away and smile. Maybe they should ask prem what was said?This whole.procession is a slight on democracy. Indeed, although I would hazard a guess that Prem would be equally tight lipped in light of his unique position. One can only speculate but I would imagine that it was more likely an invitation than a courtesy call and that she left carrying a message for her boss. Of course. Its.private. why the press even get invited is bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVGerry Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 It never was. Except to the conspiracy theorists. Friendly advice: "Better remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt!" Yeah I was about to use that quote on you. Thanks for posting it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choff56 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 And some posters here still doubt, that the feudal system led by Amart exists?? This is exactly the system Suthep and his supporters want to keep in place, so even in the future theThais will continue to kiss up and kick down!! High time for a change, but Suthep is not the man to do it with his undemocratic nonsense rhetoric!! PTP, without the Shins, may be the long time solution?? So the caretaker PM makes a courtesy call to the head of His Majesty's privy council and suddenly we're have a feudal system! OK then, please explain what the Thai's do have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Asked whether she has discussed any political issue with Gen. Prem, Ms. Yingluck simply smiled and left the press conference. It appears this is Yinglucks strategy, smile and walk away or cry and give speech then walk away and smile. Closed door job. No answers given by the P.M. as usual, just a smile. totally agree with your view. Look at it this way, Had I thought for 1 minute the P.M. had done a good job in government, I would have thought it odd she didn't explain anything, she should have commented as the media were barred. This is why posters see the situ as is. her arrogance OR it's not any ones business. <deleted>. this reflects the whole government, you voted us in SO NOW we can do what we like good or bad. Lump it Thai people till our democratically elected term has run 4 years---- Ha Ha Ha. Your ignorance is on full display with your comment. Discussions with a senior privy councillor are not open to the public. Had any comment been made, there would have been a violation of protocol and accusations of contempt. Do you have any understanding of the role of the privy council in Thailand, or do you just see this as an opportunity to take a cheap shot at PM Yingluck? I'll make it clearer: A PM is not supposed to discuss the details of these meetings. No PM who wishes to continue without an accusation of contempt discusses the meetings in public. Oh, is she allowed to private message? I hope so some of the ones I get would be embarrassing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVGerry Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 It never was. Except to the conspiracy theorists. So...care to explain what Thailand is, if not "feudal"? Why don't you tell us why you think it's 'feudal'? Please add in evidence, not just your opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Prem is an ass. She should have just ignored him. What ??? I would be very careful if I was you, you are talking about a loved and learned man. Why would you say a thing like that, the may have been one at the meeting but for sure never Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazR Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) Sadly, the terms semi-feudal, semi-democratic, and semi-failed state appear beyond the abilities of some people to fathom or even contemplate sensibly. Never mind - drink up! Edited January 1, 2014 by GazR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonc Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Asked whether she has discussed any political issue with Gen. Prem, Ms. Yingluck simply smiled and left the press conference. It appears this is Yinglucks strategy, smile and walk away or cry and give speech then walk away and smile. Do grow up, Waza. This was a private meeting. It would have been the hight of bad manners to have come out of the door and start spouting off about "he said this" and "I said that". If you notice, Gen. Prayuth also had the courtesy to keep his mouth shut. I just wish your side could engage in proper debate, and not this constant sniggering and bitching about YS as a person.. your side..?????..no-one has a side apart from your red friends, tv,ers on here are just against dems aswell,incase you dont know,dont just pick out the bits you feel will get you some likes,time for you to grow up instead 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 It never was. Except to the conspiracy theorists. So...care to explain what Thailand is, if not "feudal"? Why don't you tell us why you think it's 'feudal'? Please add in evidence, not just your opinions. Also tell us who is the lord of the realm you owe allegiance to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cnxforever Posted January 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2014 Seeing how Prem can't stand her brother, he probably feels the same way about her also, her being Thaksin's puppet and all. Probably wasn't a very friendly visit. Polite maybe but not friendly. what do you mean can't stand her brother? He was his protege as long as he followed the elites orders. They only fell out when Thaksin became so popular that they lost control over him. After all it was ahem... a "respected elder" who "swayed" the court to let Thaksin of the hook for concealing his wealth during his first premiership. And one of the judges involved said later "he had to swallow his blood" to support the decision - after all it was the court who had to make fools out of themselves in front of the entire nation. The case was clear cut and Thaksin was guilty as hell (unless he employed unusually rich billionaire drivers, maids and gardeners 555) - but because of the interference of a "certain somebody" he was acquitted. Because in Thailand the law applies only to the poor and average Somchai not to the rich and powerful. Respect does not have to be earned here - it comes automatically with position and age! The entire charade Thailand is now going through started on the day these "influential people" persuaded the court to look the other way and acquit Thaksin of the charges. The prosecutor who charged him back then is a hero in my eyes - he did the unthinkable by charging the PM of the country - and at the end he and every law abiding citizen of this country got a slap in the face as the powerful showed them the law does not apply to them. The mess Thailand is in now started on that very day when the powerful "turned" the court and trampled on the law in front of live TV cameras stunning an entire nation sending out the message if the powerful are behind you - you can cheat and lie and be as corrupt as you want - you are above the law! And these are the people who are "respected" in this country - no wonder Thailand is in such a mess. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSmiles Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 what do you mean can't stand her brother? He was his protege as long as he followed the elites orders. They only fell out when Thaksin became so popular that they lost control over him. They only fell out after Thaksin made it clear that it was time for Thailand to have a president. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 And some posters here still doubt, that the feudal system led by Amart exists?? This is exactly the system Suthep and his supporters want to keep in place, so even in the future theThais will continue to kiss up and kick down!! High time for a change, but Suthep is not the man to do it with his undemocratic nonsense rhetoric!! PTP, without the Shins, may be the long time solution?? So the caretaker PM makes a courtesy call to the head of His Majesty's privy council and suddenly we're have a feudal system! OK then, please explain what the Thai's do have. Khun Gerry is probably here on a two months holiday, so don,t expect him to explan anything about Thai history or the powerstructure of the country, because he haven't got a clue! At best he has been reading a few headlines! His bitterness against the reds, is probably based on the fact that an uneducated ricefarmers daughter managed to take him for a house and a car!! Your last sentence ---may be right if so he will be amongst thousands that have succumbed, so his bitterness is valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TVGerry Posted January 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) And some posters here still doubt, that the feudal system led by Amart exists?? This is exactly the system Suthep and his supporters want to keep in place, so even in the future theThais will continue to kiss up and kick down!! High time for a change, but Suthep is not the man to do it with his undemocratic nonsense rhetoric!! PTP, without the Shins, may be the long time solution?? So the caretaker PM makes a courtesy call to the head of His Majesty's privy council and suddenly we're have a feudal system! OK then, please explain what the Thai's do have. Khun Gerry is probably here on a two months holiday, so don,t expect him to explan anything about Thai history or the powerstructure of the country, because he haven't got a clue! At best he has been reading a few headlines! His bitterness against the reds, is probably based on the fact that an uneducated ricefarmers daughter managed to take him for a house and a car!! See that's the problem with you people. You yourself don't know anything but you post about it anyway, making assumptions. You're making assumptions about me and you're making assumptions about the 'power structure'. Yet I bet you you can't even tell us what's really happening. Let me guess, you're going to tell us about how the 'ammarts' are controlling everything right? But I bet you, you won't post any evidence nor their names for that matter. Seriously, I've been asking for evidence for a long time from all the conspiracy theorists. Nothing so far. Oh and little personal attacks just goes to show how weak your arguments are. Can't post any evidence so you make personal attacks. You seem to know a lot about the subject about getting fleeced by dark skinned rice farmer daughters. Just saying. . Edited January 1, 2014 by TVGerry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 That was the perfect opportunity to "coup" her. BTW, where was Suthep? Abhisit? Not invited to the party? A perfect opportunity to coup her ? ... what a silly reply, For what reason do you thing she should have been treated with a political coup d'e-tat at this meeting, because she was elected as PM by the majority of the Thai electorates at the last general election, and that might happen again. I'm not sure that's entirely correct. She was a party list MP so wasn't elected. She was elected as PM by the majority of MPs most of whom would obviously be PTP members. It's their decision of course but it does make you wonder why with all those experienced politicians in the party why choose a woman who had no experience or interest in politics? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Asked whether she has discussed any political issue with Gen. Prem, Ms. Yingluck simply smiled and left the press conference. It appears this is Yinglucks strategy, smile and walk away or cry and give speech then walk away and smile. Closed door job. No answers given by the P.M. as usual, just a smile. totally agree with your view. Look at it this way, Had I thought for 1 minute the P.M. had done a good job in government, I would have thought it odd she didn't explain anything, she should have commented as the media were barred. This is why posters see the situ as is. her arrogance OR it's not any ones business. <deleted>. this reflects the whole government, you voted us in SO NOW we can do what we like good or bad. Lump it Thai people till our democratically elected term has run 4 years---- Ha Ha Ha. But the military made no comment ewither so maybe.. just maybe.. rather than the b/s scenario you paint, they all agreed to keep their meeting private? How about that for a novel idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choff56 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 And some posters here still doubt, that the feudal system led by Amart exists?? This is exactly the system Suthep and his supporters want to keep in place, so even in the future theThais will continue to kiss up and kick down!! High time for a change, but Suthep is not the man to do it with his undemocratic nonsense rhetoric!! PTP, without the Shins, may be the long time solution?? Actually, it's a system Thaksin wants to keep in place. That's how he controls the North and North East. The current system is monetarily beneficial to all the "so called elected governments" in Thailand, so hence the yearly ___ kiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 It never was. Except to the conspiracy theorists. So...care to explain what Thailand is, if not "feudal"? Why don't you tell us why you think it's 'feudal'? Please add in evidence, not just your opinions. Cop out much?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wprime Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 And some posters here still doubt, that the feudal system led by Amart exists?? This is exactly the system Suthep and his supporters want to keep in place, so even in the future theThais will continue to kiss up and kick down!! High time for a change, but Suthep is not the man to do it with his undemocratic nonsense rhetoric!! PTP, without the Shins, may be the long time solution?? Don't be misled by Shin propaganda, both sides want to retain a system of a powerful elite and the powerless masses. The only difference is who this powerful network of elites would comprise of. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cnxforever Posted January 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) what do you mean can't stand her brother? He was his protege as long as he followed the elites orders. They only fell out when Thaksin became so popular that they lost control over him. They only fell out after Thaksin made it clear that it was time for Thailand to have a president. that was not my point - the point is that Thaksin was brought to power and kept in power by them with lies, deception, intimidation and by breaking the law! and yes of course! - Thaksin is many things but surely not stupid - the president thing is nothing but cheap "yellow" propaganda! There is not a shred of evidence for this - if there would be they would have used it against him a long time ago. One just needs to think about it - how would he have accomplished that? By staging a coup..... 555 - with who ??? -The yellows have no answer for this! - It is just simply stupid propaganda to discredit him. Thaksin is much more clever than this - yes he had his eyes set to the future and had close ties with certain people - but not to create a presidency - this card is yet to be played. Just read Wikileaks previous US ambassador's to Thailand comments - Thais in very (very) powerful positions loosing face have a long memory. As for stupid propaganda - recently the yellows are trying to make Thais believe that half of the anti riot police force in Bangkok are actually Cambodian soldiers who have been hired (payed for by the evil one of course) to kill them - what a bunch of scoundrels starting to stir up nationalistic anti Cambodian sentiments again. Worst is that some people actually believe them. But all this has a purpose - they want to see blood so the army can step in - preparing demonstrators to feel justified to physically attack police more easily by making them believe they are actually Cambodian soldiers. Lies and deception - they are quite good at it - manipulating mostly people who can not think for themselves or form their own opinion and connect the dots! Edited January 1, 2014 by Cnxforever 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazR Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) what do you mean can't stand her brother? He was his protege as long as he followed the elites orders. They only fell out when Thaksin became so popular that they lost control over him. They only fell out after Thaksin made it clear that it was time for Thailand to have a president. Reminds me of an episode of The Westwing where, as I recall, the Secretary of State explains to a group eager to have a 'real' American-style President instead of a mere Prime Minister that in practice it really only works in half a dozen countries or so around the world and that a parliamentary system is actually better at providing effective government. Maybe not great, but better, and the fact that the UK has managed to maintain a stable democracy without a written constitution lends credence to that view. Edited January 1, 2014 by GazR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Asked whether she has discussed any political issue with Gen. Prem, Ms. Yingluck simply smiled and left the press conference. It appears this is Yinglucks strategy, smile and walk away or cry and give speech then walk away and smile. Closed door job. No answers given by the P.M. as usual, just a smile. totally agree with your view. Look at it this way, Had I thought for 1 minute the P.M. had done a good job in government, I would have thought it odd she didn't explain anything, she should have commented as the media were barred. This is why posters see the situ as is. her arrogance OR it's not any ones business. <deleted>. this reflects the whole government, you voted us in SO NOW we can do what we like good or bad. Lump it Thai people till our democratically elected term has run 4 years---- Ha Ha Ha. But the military made no comment ewither so maybe.. just maybe.. rather than the b/s scenario you paint, they all agreed to keep their meeting private? How about that for a novel idea? This is Page 4, we have been through this 10 times, I made a remark that was stupid as I forgot the meeting was strictly private end of story. If you read the other pages you will be aware of the whole story and posts. I was put right on the matter. You are picking out a piece to comment on that suits you . had you read my posts you will understand why I commented against Yinglucks attitude to the press. OK or the Hush hush re this annual event. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) Asked whether she has discussed any political issue with Gen. Prem, Ms. Yingluck simply smiled and left the press conference. It appears this is Yinglucks strategy, smile and walk away or cry and give speech then walk away and smile. Closed door job. No answers given by the P.M. as usual, just a smile. totally agree with your view. Look at it this way, Had I thought for 1 minute the P.M. had done a good job in government, I would have thought it odd she didn't explain anything, she should have commented as the media were barred. This is why posters see the situ as is. her arrogance OR it's not any ones business. <deleted>. this reflects the whole government, you voted us in SO NOW we can do what we like good or bad. Lump it Thai people till our democratically elected term has run 4 years---- Ha Ha Ha. But the military made no comment ewither so maybe.. just maybe.. rather than the b/s scenario you paint, they all agreed to keep their meeting private? How about that for a novel idea? This is Page 4, we have been through this 10 times, I made a remark that was stupid as I forgot the meeting was strictly private end of story. If you read the other pages you will be aware of the whole story and posts. I was put right on the matter. You are picking out a piece to comment on that suits you . had you read my posts you will understand why I commented against Yinglucks attitude to the press. OK or the Hush hush re this annual event. But then Yingluck decides she should comment on this strictly private meeting........... "Ms. Yingluck told reporters later that Gen. Prem has advised her to take heed to New Year message from His Majesty the King, in which the monarch called for unity of all Thais." Making a mockery of ginjag et al's posts Edited January 1, 2014 by waza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffcool Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 And some posters here still doubt, that the feudal system led by Amart exists?? This is exactly the system Suthep and his supporters want to keep in place, so even in the future theThais will continue to kiss up and kick down!! High time for a change, but Suthep is not the man to do it with his undemocratic nonsense rhetoric!! PTP, without the Shins, may be the long time solution?? Tending to agree but the PTP the Shin's is unrealistic.... So... What to do.... Obviously this country is going much better with the army in charge..... With the king as head of state....if they want.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffcool Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 To all or most of you that have left comments here, I would like to ask you what YOU would do if YOU were in her shoes??????? I dont think YOU would have any idea at all what to do, so one should not critasize what one would not or does not know what to do. Suthep is a killer and is wanted - Yingluck is not. Remember that. I would have not pretending to be the PM... Just enjoying my ammart position in Thailand and not p.... Off everybody with my greedy bro.... But that is just me.... What about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffcool Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 That was the perfect opportunity to "coup" her. BTW, where was Suthep? Abhisit? Not invited to the party? A perfect opportunity to coup her ? ... what a silly reply, For what reason do you thing she should have been treated with a political coup d'e-tat at this meeting, because she was elected as PM by the majority of the Thai electorates at the last general election, and that might happen again. Elected?? Really?i thought they just bought the job.... Like the chief police job anywhere in the land of smile.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Asked whether she has discussed any political issue with Gen. Prem, Ms. Yingluck simply smiled and left the press conference. It appears this is Yinglucks strategy, smile and walk away or cry and give speech then walk away and smile. Closed door job. No answers given by the P.M. as usual, just a smile. totally agree with your view. Look at it this way, Had I thought for 1 minute the P.M. had done a good job in government, I would have thought it odd she didn't explain anything, she should have commented as the media were barred. This is why posters see the situ as is. her arrogance OR it's not any ones business. <deleted>. this reflects the whole government, you voted us in SO NOW we can do what we like good or bad. Lump it Thai people till our democratically elected term has run 4 years---- Ha Ha Ha. But the military made no comment ewither so maybe.. just maybe.. rather than the b/s scenario you paint, they all agreed to keep their meeting private? How about that for a novel idea? This is Page 4, we have been through this 10 times, I made a remark that was stupid as I forgot the meeting was strictly private end of story. If you read the other pages you will be aware of the whole story and posts. I was put right on the matter. You are picking out a piece to comment on that suits you . had you read my posts you will understand why I commented against Yinglucks attitude to the press. OK or the Hush hush re this annual event. But then Yingluck decides she should comment on this strictly private meeting........... "Ms. Yingluck told reporters later that Gen. Prem has advised her to take heed to New Year message from His Majesty the King, in which the monarch called for unity of all Thais." Making a mockery of ginjag et al's posts What would you like her to say? "I didn't listen to a word he said. Who cares he's a dinosaur! Our time is coming!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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