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I swear I am not a pedophile wink.png

Actually, theres a point...did you get permission from that child or parents to post his/her photo ?

Are you serious?

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So far a naked backside...a dog presenting its rear for doggy position and some boobs hanging out.

Any more out there ?

What? So disappointed mine did not even make it...darn it!

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I swear I am not a pedophile wink.png

Actually, theres a point...did you get permission from that child or parents to post his/her photo ?

Are you serious?

Some schools in the UK will allow Parents to take photos of their children performing at the Christmas show or other childrens performance.

As long as they sign the Register,to declare the photos will not be uploaded to any Internet social media. (Including Facebook) Considering the lengths that Pedophiles go to,and groom, entrap, and abuse helpless children,I have no problem with this!.... Showbags point is a refreshing question,I have already had to rebuke 2 silly persons for posting my Daughters photo on one of these networks,the sad part is: both the persons concerned,have no idea of the dangers of their actions!

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Some schools in the UK will allow Parents to take photos of their children performing at the Christmas show or other childrens performance.

As long as they sign the Register,to declare the photos will not be uploaded to any Internet social media. (Including Facebook) Considering the lengths that Pedophiles go to,and groom, entrap, and abuse helpless children,I have no problem with this!.... Showbags point is a refreshing question,I have already had to rebuke 2 silly persons for posting my Daughters photo on one of these networks,the sad part is: both the persons concerned,have no idea of the dangers of their actions!

Just wanted to point out that you don't need anyones permission to take or publish a photo of someone else as long as you've taken the photo yourself and the publishing is artistic work and not for commercial purposes. Your daughters picture included.

Sometimes these laws borders madness. An idiot can sit on the beach and snap shots of children, covered by the law.

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Some schools in the UK will allow Parents to take photos of their children performing at the Christmas show or other childrens performance.

As long as they sign the Register,to declare the photos will not be uploaded to any Internet social media. (Including Facebook) Considering the lengths that Pedophiles go to,and groom, entrap, and abuse helpless children,I have no problem with this!.... Showbags point is a refreshing question,I have already had to rebuke 2 silly persons for posting my Daughters photo on one of these networks,the sad part is: both the persons concerned,have no idea of the dangers of their actions!

Just wanted to point out that you don't need anyones permission to take or publish a photo of someone else as long as you've taken the photo yourself and the publishing is artistic work and not for commercial purposes. Your daughters picture included.

Sometimes these laws borders madness. An idiot can sit on the beach and snap shots of children, covered by the law.

Sorry but your information is out of date:

If the photograph is that of a person, you must also obtain permission of the person depicted in the photograph to use his or her likeness. The courts of the United States and some other jurisdictions have recognized a “right of publicity,” a right that derives from the “right of privacy.” These rights apply to all living persons and, under certain circumstances, those dead.

There are several sub-issues that have to be dealt with in terms of the right of privacy:

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Sorry but your information is out of date:

If the photograph is that of a person, you must also obtain permission of the person depicted in the photograph to use his or her likeness. The courts of the United States and some other jurisdictions have recognized a right of publicity, a right that derives from the right of privacy. These rights apply to all living persons and, under certain circumstances, those dead.

There are several sub-issues that have to be dealt with in terms of the right of privacy:

Unfortunately I have the best available information. Granted I dont know 100% what the law is in USA, I assumed you referred to UK. But it only took me one minute to find the information, and it is more or less EXACTLY the same as in the rest of the world.

http://everydayaperture.com/law/

There are numerous factors involved that should be considered before a model release would be required, but that's covered in all of my references.

Here's a good place to start if you want to know a little bit more about this.

http://www.clickinmoms.com/blog/street-photography-and-the-law-7-things-you-need-to-know/

Here's a summary of street photography and your rights in UK (which contradicts your view completely)

http://www.urban75.org/photos/photographers-rights-and-the-law.html

Pay particular attention to the following:

http://www.urban75.org/photos/photographers-rights-street-shooting.html

As I pointed out, anyone can take a picture of you or why not your daughter. This person even have the right to publish the picture on, lets say social media. I am sorry if I opened up a can of worms, I'm only telling you the way it is.

Photographing children

There are no laws against taking photos of children, but someone taking an unhealthy interest can rightly expect to attract unwelcome attention from the authorities (and quite probably passers by) pretty sharpish.

Be also mindful that if you're taking pictures in areas where dodgy folks, drug dealers and ne'er do wells may be in view, they're unlikely to be pleased with the attention and probably won't be bothered about the niceties of the law in their response.

If someone asks you to stop take pictures of them, it's generally a good idea to do so.

Update: According to this blog, Home Office Minister Tony McNulty MP has commented on the current legal situation regarding privacy.

"There is no legal restriction on photography in public places, and there is no presumption of privacy for individuals in a public place.

It is for the Chief Constable to ensure that Officers and Police Community Support Officers are acting appropriately with regards to photography in public places, and any queries regarding this should be addressed to the Chief Constable.

However decisions may be made locally to restrict photography, for example to protect children. Any questions on such local decisions should also be addressed to the force concerned."

There is no legal restriction on photography in public places, and there is no presumption of privacy for individuals in a public place.

It is for the Chief Constable to ensure that Officers and Police Community Support Officers are acting appropriately with regards to photography in public places, and any queries regarding this should be addressed to the Chief Constable.

However decisions may be made locally to restrict photography, for example to protect children. Any questions on such local decisions should also be addressed to the force concerned.

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Sorry but your information is out of date:

If the photograph is that of a person, you must also obtain permission of the person depicted in the photograph to use his or her likeness. The courts of the United States and some other jurisdictions have recognized a right of publicity, a right that derives from the right of privacy. These rights apply to all living persons and, under certain circumstances, those dead.

There are several sub-issues that have to be dealt with in terms of the right of privacy:

Unfortunately I have the best available information. Granted I dont know 100% what the law is in USA, I assumed you referred to UK. But it only took me one minute to find the information, and it is more or less EXACTLY the same as in the rest of the world.

http://everydayaperture.com/law/

There are numerous factors involved that should be considered before a model release would be required, but that's covered in all of my references.

Here's a good place to start if you want to know a little bit more about this.

http://www.clickinmoms.com/blog/street-photography-and-the-law-7-things-you-need-to-know/

Here's a summary of street photography and your rights in UK (which contradicts your view completely)

http://www.urban75.org/photos/photographers-rights-and-the-law.html

Pay particular attention to the following:

http://www.urban75.org/photos/photographers-rights-street-shooting.html

As I pointed out, anyone can take a picture of you or why not your daughter. This person even have the right to publish the picture on, lets say social media. I am sorry if I opened up a can of worms, I'm only telling you the way it is.

Photographing children

There are no laws against taking photos of children, but someone taking an unhealthy interest can rightly expect to attract unwelcome attention from the authorities (and quite probably passers by) pretty sharpish.

Be also mindful that if you're taking pictures in areas where dodgy folks, drug dealers and ne'er do wells may be in view, they're unlikely to be pleased with the attention and probably won't be bothered about the niceties of the law in their response.

If someone asks you to stop take pictures of them, it's generally a good idea to do so.

Update: According to this blog, Home Office Minister Tony McNulty MP has commented on the current legal situation regarding privacy.

"There is no legal restriction on photography in public places, and there is no presumption of privacy for individuals in a public place.

It is for the Chief Constable to ensure that Officers and Police Community Support Officers are acting appropriately with regards to photography in public places, and any queries regarding this should be addressed to the Chief Constable.

However decisions may be made locally to restrict photography, for example to protect children. Any questions on such local decisions should also be addressed to the force concerned."

There is no legal restriction on photography in public places, and there is no presumption of privacy for individuals in a public place.

It is for the Chief Constable to ensure that Officers and Police Community Support Officers are acting appropriately with regards to photography in public places, and any queries regarding this should be addressed to the Chief Constable.

However decisions may be made locally to restrict photography, for example to protect children. Any questions on such local decisions should also be addressed to the force concerned.

Yes, I was referring in my original Post to the UK,in particular.

Here is another link to other areas of the UK which has banned or controlled of taking of photographs of children unless strictly controlled (rightly so in my view)

Anything that can be done to keep Pedos and perverts at bay,can only be a good thing!

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/jun/23/photos-children-school-ban

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Yes, I was referring in my original Post to the UK,in particular.

Here is another link to other areas of the UK which has banned or controlled of taking of photographs of children unless strictly controlled (rightly so in my view)

Anything that can be done to keep Pedos and perverts at bay,can only be a good thing!

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/jun/23/photos-children-school-ban

Unfortunately, a school is not considered a public place, but a public restricted place. For instance, a nursery is such a place. A state school as well. If it's a private school or nursery the owner of the property has the rights to prevent you from shooting.

A beach IS a public place. A playground as well. A street is also a public place.

As I pointed out, anyone can take photos of someones daughter at the beach and publish the photo without asking for your consent. My information is of course NOT outdated. Unfortunately, you're making the same mistake a lot of people do when they believe they have the right to privacy in a public place. They dont. Just as I pointed out.

I'm not saying this is a good thing, in particular when it involves children. I am sure we agree in that area.

But in terms of your claims that:

"If the photograph is that of a person, you must also obtain permission of the person depicted in the photograph to use his or her likeness."

That is simply incorrect. I can publish your photo without your permission. I can head down to the beach and snap a shoot of someones ten year old daughter and publish without anyones consent.

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release forms are required to avoid civil liability, not a criminal issue

can't believe TV censors tiny thumbnails showing less than you'd see on any beach popular with tourists

Posted

I swear I am not a pedophile wink.png

Actually, theres a point...did you get permission from that child or parents to post his/her photo ?

Are you serious?

Yes..rules are rules

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release forms are required to avoid civil liability, not a criminal issue

can't believe TV censors tiny thumbnails showing less than you'd see on any beach popular with tourists

Sorry about that...

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release forms are required to avoid civil liability, not a criminal issue

can't believe TV censors tiny thumbnails showing less than you'd see on any beach popular with tourists

Release forms are NOT required. Read my posts above.

A model release is only required if the photo is used commercially. Artistic work is not commercial.

I want to ask you NOT to provide incorrect information in legal matters.

This topic has been covered before as well.

http://www.thaivisa....aphy-in-public/

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