Bluespunk Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) 'Caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has blamed the House dissolution for disrupting payments to farmers under the rice pledging scheme but brushed aside criticism of the programme’s failure.' Rubbish, payment was due in October. Long before the dissolution. The disruption to payments has only one cause, that being the rice scheme has been a complete failure. Edited February 6, 2014 by Bluespunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGP Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) There is a lot of talk about the Rice Farmers and the "elites" but not much about the Rubber Farmers. Here is their voice: Alienated Southern Thais vow to keep pressure on Thaksin and government http://globalitemagazine.com/2014/02/06/alienated-southern-thais-vow-to-keep-pressure-on-thaksin-yingluck-government/ “Poor people do bad things, go to jail. Rich people do bad things, win elections.” Edited February 6, 2014 by MGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitrevie Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think these peasants should understand that the subsidies have gone exactly where they were intended, as Marie Antoinette is rumoured to have said, "let them eat cake" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skint Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I don't see pdrc offering a solution other than prelong payments to farmers. Everywhere outside Thailand is condemning the pdrc except those here who think they are elite. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartakos Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 If dear prime minister have visited TV from time to time she would know that all the problems they are having with the rice scheme is because of bangkok elites and those pesky southern fascist thugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted February 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2014 I don't see pdrc offering a solution other than prelong payments to farmers. Everywhere outside Thailand is condemning the pdrc except those here who think they are elite. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand The pdrc don't need to offer a solution, they are not a political party or hold any power or administrative functions You sound like YK blame everyone else for your own actions 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I don't see pdrc offering a solution other than prelong payments to farmers. Everywhere outside Thailand is condemning the pdrc except those here who think they are elite. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand The pdrc don't need to offer a solution, they are not a political party or hold any power or administrative functions You sound like YK blame everyone else for your own actions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I don't see pdrc offering a solution other than prelong payments to farmers. Everywhere outside Thailand is condemning the pdrc except those here who think they are elite. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand The pdrc don't need to offer a solution, they are not a political party or hold any power or administrative functions You sound like YK blame everyone else for your own actions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hawkman Posted February 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2014 Notice that the red shirt supporters on here avoid the threads dealing with the rice scam. Wonder why this is? Is it because they can actually see through this scam and privately admit it was a bad move or that they actually believe YL and everyone else is to blame not them. Whatever happens at the end of all this, Thaksin will never want to lose face. Never. So, at no point will we see the Government admit they are wrong. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Genious, absolute brilliant idea.Promises the farmers to pay by the year 2560 AD.Revamp the word "Rice" in to "Rubber", revamp "Tablet" to "LCD TV"and I'm absolutely sure, no one would realize and everyone will vote for her again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Regarding widespread protests by farmers who demanded overdue payments for the rice they have sold under the scheme, she asked for sympathy to agencies in charge of assisting farmers and said the law bans a caretaker government from financial engagement that could pose a burden to the new government. So who was it that failed to think ahead and put monies in place to pay the farmers BEFORE disolving the house? Dissolving the house was a knee jerk reaction to the protesters to cling to power and no thought or planning was done about the consequences. The decision was probably made in a two minute skype call from Dubai. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why ask Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Good time to sell farming land if you have any. Good time to buy AG Bank shares, more like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted February 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2014 When only 18 % of a programme's mandated largess is meant for the poorest rice farmers - you know where an administration's priorities are. So the pleas from Yingluck ring hollow. As the payments have been due since October, how can parliament's dissolution have anything to do with it ? And if they were worried about the farmers then, why didn't they precede that dissolution by addressing the issue ? ( Because they weren't focused on the farmers at all. ) This administration's habit of blaming everyone but themselves continues. To date, the farmers haven't been paid because : - the EC said they couldn't, because they're just plain mean, that's all, and because they had to abide by a silly rule of monitoring monies which could be meant to alter an election ( Imagine ! ) - the NACC have started this silly, silly investigation, making the preposterous insinuation that the programme capsized the industry, destroyed farmers' livelihoods, lined the pockets of officials, bribed others to look the other way, fashioned fictitious export deals, created reserves of rice that the world won't buy, and depleted the reserves of the treasury of billions and billions of baht. ( The nerve of such a thought ! ) - those naughty, naughty protesters ( don't they know we've done more to tackle corruption and shameless nepotism than any administration in human history ? ) - those naughty, naughty banks ( don't they know a good deal when they see one ? ) - those naughty, naughty bank unions and employees ( have they no heart, no shame ? ) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) I don't see pdrc offering a solution other than prelong payments to farmers. Everywhere outside Thailand is condemning the pdrc except those here who think they are elite. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Why should they? The government is busy impounding their bank accounts, they are not even in caretaker power, it wasnt' their scheme in the first place. It is the full and total responsibility of the PTP caretaker government and NOBODY else. Edited for my bad spelling. (See, I take responsibility for my mistakes). Edited February 6, 2014 by billd766 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Deadlock in Thailand - not a good situation at all. Yingluck and her cronies know that things will only get worse and are desperately covering their tracks at the moment before planning their escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyUsualid Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I'm not saying she is dum, but it takes her 2hrs to watch 60 Minutes.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Good time to sell farming land if you have any. Sure, just what the Shina's and their corrupt brethren want, buy it cheap and then lease it back to and screw the poor subsistent farmers. You know the one's, the ones we promised to make rich, educate their kids , cheap unsustainable medical help, free computers to their kids etc etc etc. And where are these farmers now - begging for their well earned money and some support to survive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I don't see pdrc offering a solution other than prelong payments to farmers. Everywhere outside Thailand is condemning the pdrc except those here who think they are elite. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Why should they? The government is busy impounding their bank accounts, they are not even in caretaker power, it wasnt' their scheme in the first place. It is the full and total responsibility of the PTP caretaker government and NOBODY else. Edited for my bad spelling. (See, I take responsibility for my mistakes). Shame a few others don't follow suit, but of course "we" never make mistakes, a few rule changes sorts that problem out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerjo Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Its sad situation,but the farmers should have know better. If its to good to be true,then it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Yet again... Still no official apology. Just saying it is not her fault... Complete and utter rubbish. One minute she is saying that they are not allowed to borrow the money because they are in caretaker mode and that is against the rules, the next sentence she says that they are trying to borrow the money. Total contradiction that will now be criticised. Once again Yingluck, you have displayed for all to see, that you are no more than a complete airhead. Just look into her eyes on that picture..... she is away with the fairies. The lift doesn't go all the way to the top of the tower, The lights are on but nobody is home, She is two sandwiches short of a picnic. She is as about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike. And many other things that I can't think of at the moment. About as useful as tits on a bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) .......... She has been warned over and over from everybody ........ Well, the rice farmers too, they been warned that that scheme wouldn't work but they believed what they wanted to believe. The reply of the few people I talked to was: "You farang, you don't understand, Thailand different" So, Sum Nam Naa, Na? Charging her with premeditated murder would be the only right thing. Now if she would have premeditated murder, she did a pretty bad job on that as it didn't seam to work. If it would have worked, her "premeditated murder", there wouldn't be any rice farmers around anymore to demonstrate. Now I wonder if ever anyone suggested to charge Barclay's Bank for "premeditated murder"? There was quite a few people in the UK who committed suicide because Barcdlay's miss-sold endowment mortgages. Edited February 6, 2014 by JoeLing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunla Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has blamed the House dissolution for disrupting payments to farmers under the rice pledging scheme but brushed aside criticism of the programme’s failure. You've got to have alligator blood to be able to stand there and say that without flinching. I'd say she's got some rare old conkers, for sure. I sort of have to admire the gall, despite my views on the whole sorry business. Robert DeNiro has got nothing on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Yet another misleading thread. Where does she say that in the article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Yet again... Still no official apology. Just saying it is not her fault... Complete and utter rubbish. One minute she is saying that they are not allowed to borrow the money because they are in caretaker mode and that is against the rules, the next sentence she says that they are trying to borrow the money. Total contradiction that will now be criticised. Once again Yingluck, you have displayed for all to see, that you are no more than a complete airhead. Just look into her eyes on that picture..... she is away with the fairies. The lift doesn't go all the way to the top of the tower, The lights are on but nobody is home, She is two sandwiches short of a picnic. She is as about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike. And many other things that I can't think of at the moment. About as useful as tits on a bull. Like a drover's dog, all piss and wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 One weight short of a shipwreck. Love that line... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 She really can't say anything else can she if she wishes to retain the rural vote in the North and North East. If she admits that the government is to blame she is shooting herself in the foot. She needs to blame everyone else in attempt to continue hoodwinking the rural folk, the base of PTPs support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunterHunter Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 "Meanwhile, two senior officials of the Public Warehouse Organisation were interrogated by Udon Thani police yesterday concerning 34,000 sacks of rice, worth Bt80 million, which disappeared after being moved out of Udon Thani warehouse for rice mills in Lop Buri on March 5-26 last year. (MCOT online news)." 34.000 sacks of rice disappeared? If a bag of rice weighs 50 kg, then 1,700 tons of rice are there disappeared. And this is only one Warehouse from 2000 in the country. May PT caretaker Chalerm should ask his son, who is in charge to take care of the rice mountain, where this amount of rice is. This is organized crime. Normally a job for PT caretaker Chalerms friend Tarrit, the DSI chief, to start an investigation. It seems that the government has no interest in uncovering the theft of national state money. I guess the state has lost over 200.000.000.000 (200 Billion) Baht only on corruption from this rice scheme. What criminals have enriched themselves personally here for over 2 years? Who has now the money? The farmers obviously not. But here there will be no proper investigation. The necessary control instruments are here paralyzed, purchased and off function. Poor Thailand in the stranglehold of organized crime. I would assert that the rice never existed in the first place... it was 'pledged' but never arrived at the warehouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunterHunter Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) .......... She has been warned over and over from everybody ........ Well, the rice farmers too, they been warned that that scheme wouldn't work but they believed what they wanted to believe. The reply of the few people I talked to was: "You farang, you don't understand, Thailand different" So, Sum Nam Naa, Na? Oooooh... its the Rice Farmers fault now!?!?! gotcha Edited February 6, 2014 by MunterHunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunterHunter Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Who was it that said the PDRC isnt offering any solutions? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/702536-suthep-says-plundering-rice-warehouse-is-next-step/ Hows about that then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy50 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Who was it that said the PDRC isnt offering any solutions? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/702536-suthep-says-plundering-rice-warehouse-is-next-step/ Hows about that then? Yes well, Savile deserved to have gone to jail as does this woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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