englishoak Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Have to be very very careful just who you might upset when naming companies,they have shareholders and some are connected with certain ties and unmentionable connections its a bit of a minefield. You say the wrong name in public and you can fall foul of certain restriction laws here if that company is associated with such.. Its complicated but is very very simple too, just like 2010 there are those very much involved that do not want to be named and those that cannot be named... and those that are interlinked make it all the harder. A lot here is based on fear of telling the truth, here the truth will not necessarily set you free, its more likely to get you locked up or just plain shot in some areas and politics is one of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidhere Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 A lot here is based on fear of telling the truth, here the truth will not necessarily set you free, its more likely to get you locked up or just plain shot in some areas and politics is one of them. Yeah, Shin Satellite employee Kornthep Viriya was killed for wanting to tell the truth. http://www.reocities.com/suan_nok/khaothai/2546-04/THAS-sinbon-0303.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimoMax Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 CMPO (Center for Maintaining Peace and Order) All their actions seem to be Contrary to their Title..... Any Reconciliation going on from Charlem and Co. ??????? Should have been named the CPSHD (Center for Propaganda to Spread Hate and Discontent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilac2 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I reckon that if a bunch of nutcases had erected huge platforms with video screens that were blocking traffic along the length of Piccadilly, the London police might take some action. Ditto at the Capitol in Washington or on the Champs Elysees in Paris, etc etc. It is only because this country is still de facto run by the old elite that Suthep's people can get away with it and the police don't dare to do anything. Just naming the names of the backers is the mildest action one could imagine, when in any decently-run country these fascists would never have been allowed to take over the centre of the capital in the first place. How do you explain your "old elite" allowing Jatuporn's "bunch of nutcases" to get away with it for months? Similar reasons. To avoid a wider conflict. If the old elite (no need for quotation marks) had got the Army to shoot all the red shirt demonstrators in Bangkok then there would have been mass resistance in the north. So they just shot a few of them. Similarly, today in 2014, if the Police took too firm action against Suthep and his bunch of nutcases the elite might well get their Army friends to intervene. You are, however, implying a false equivalence. Suthep is trying to defend the old order of the rich Bangkokians controlling everything, whereas the red shirts were protesting against the elections being stolen. Remember this if you will: the red shirts represent the future; Suthep represents the corrupt ways of the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesofSmiles Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Doesn't this country have freedom of assembly and expression laws which allow people to protest ? This really reeks of a witch hunt aimed at discouraging the same sort of behavior in the future. A bad thing™. Weather you agree or not, people should have the right to express their opinions. The inability to voice concerns, talk about problems and then discuss solutions seems (to me) to be holding this country back from actually solving them and progressing forward. That being said, political financing (for all parties and causes) should be transparent. Edited February 12, 2014 by MilesofSmiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklingCascades Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 We are neither Red-shirt nor Yellow-shirt nor White-shirt but left puzzled & confused as to why Sihanart Prayoonral who is from Anti-Money Laundering Office should get involved. After all its perfectly legal, very legitimate to use my 'declared earnings' to support whatever political view I like. In such a case, 'money-laundering' does not even enter into the equation. There's no accounting for stupidity even when the intentions are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyummer Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 And there after the names of financial supporters from the previous red uprising shall be disclosed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noi657 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 What this needs is a thorough investigation! Lost count of how many times in the last 2 months someone was being investigated for something. So let's investigate the investigators that are investigating... Arrrgghhhh I give up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 The PTP are having so many problemd thrown in their face right now with illegal actions, investigations, corruption, protesters, and failed elections. Every action they did in the past and present are under scrutiny and legal actions against them is underway. What better way to slow all of this down then making so much workload for these agencies that they dont have the manpower to speed up their investigations against any PTP members. If there is one thing certain in making cases for criminal actions that holds true. Time is essential especially when they know they are being investigated. They are buying time by moving the eyes of these agencies to other people so they can get rid of any evidence against themselved. At the same time they are trying to make themselves look good in the public eyes going after everyone one of those hard core criminals. If it was legal these peoplr would be hanged in public just to get people to stop looking at all the crimes the PTP are still doing and have done in the past. Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 The constitutional courts has already ruled that Suthep was merely acting in protest of the government and not guilty of any charges. So why would CMPO press charges against groups suspected of funding Suthep's effort? It doesn't make sense and appears to be a huge waste of time in typical Thai fashion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidhere Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Remember this if you will: the red shirts represent the future Let's hope not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulthailand99 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Much of what is being financed must be the street festivals that are occupying Asoke, Sala Daeng and wherever... so who "allowed" these to be erected? Just sayin'... The biggest crime by far is to music - on the several occasions I have had to go past the sites at Asok of Siam or watched them on Blue Sky the artistes or whatever you call them have been utterly dire - 3rd rate back street bar no hopers all of a sudden promoted to a big stage , video screens and professional PA. Almost each and every musician who can string two notes together must have had their moment in the lights so far and it had reminded me all too clearly how rubbish most Thais are at music even though they love it so much. That said there was one fairly young woman playing some plucked Thai harpsichord type instrument that was very good indeed and I stopped to listen to the diamond in the rough. Glastonbury has nothing to fear from Thailand for a good few centuries yet. The PDRC should co-opt Hotel California and adapt it for a protest song and they will be home and dry - declining numbers or no. Sadly though as this looks like a show that will run and run with no end in sight.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Wonder if they did white-out the dead ones from that list....probably not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm confused. The DSI backs down from revealing the names and now the CMPO will do it instead? What a bunch dysfunctional idiots! Make up your minds what you guys want to do already. doesn't really matter as the case against suthep was blown out of court making the protests fully legal and legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 "He also claimed that the number of protesters had dropped substantially citing February 11 when the total number of protesters at all protest sites has dropped to 4,060 only"... With so few protesters left, Suthep does not need any financial backers anyway. A few thousand baht per day will do... I wonder what these people and businesses were thinking. To go against the will of the majority is a dangerous game. And to finance illegal protests condemned by the whole world is rather silly. Please prove your comment that the whole world condemns these protests? As usual a nonsense bit of red rhetoric so far removed from any truth. The courts have declared the protests constitutional albeit that some protesters may have acted illegally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileydude Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 This is systematic intimidation, nothing more. Usually bullies and losers resort to these kind of tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonao Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Name and shame, the public need to know who is funding the violent, anti-democratic activity by Suthep and his thugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonao Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Singha beer has already lost a fair chunk on its market share as Thai people became aware of its involvement with Suthep (via the daughter of Singa beer owner), and protested with their wallet. Probably the worst business mistake and that's why the owner asked his daughter to change her name - damage control. Another 61 companies soon will have the distinction of making the single worst financial transaction in the companies history. I see a few heads rolling in upper management once all the dust settles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Singha beer has already lost a fair chunk on its market share as Thai people became aware of its involvement with Suthep (via the daughter of Singa beer owner), and protested with their wallet. Probably the worst business mistake and that's why the owner asked his daughter to change her name - damage control. Another 61 companies soon will have the distinction of making the single worst financial transaction in the companies history. I see a few heads rolling in upper management once all the dust settles. Well, seeing as Boon Rawd and Thai Bev and Red Bull are on the list, what on earth will thirsty red shirt farmers drink after a hard days toil in the fields, Heineken or San Miguel Light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I reckon that if a bunch of nutcases had erected huge platforms with video screens that were blocking traffic along the length of Piccadilly, the London police might take some action. Ditto at the Capitol in Washington or on the Champs Elysees in Paris, etc etc. It is only because this country is still de facto run by the old elite that Suthep's people can get away with it and the police don't dare to do anything. Just naming the names of the backers is the mildest action one could imagine, when in any decently-run country these fascists would never have been allowed to take over the centre of the capital in the first place. Just naming names, and blocking accounts and demanding any money transfer is explained and asking Foreign countries to denounce these anti-government protesters. In a truly democratic manner of course. BTW the Bank of Thailand which sets up rules for banks operating in Thailand (and mostly reflecting international obligations) has enforced banks to maintain 'terrorrist lists' and with various transactions like open account, get ATM card etc. check name, ID, etc, against that list. List provided by BoT (it would seem) and reports to them as well. Next step we get Chalerm involved I guess, again in a truly democratic manner of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Singha beer has already lost a fair chunk on its market share as Thai people became aware of its involvement with Suthep (via the daughter of Singa beer owner), and protested with their wallet. Probably the worst business mistake and that's why the owner asked his daughter to change her name - damage control. Another 61 companies soon will have the distinction of making the single worst financial transaction in the companies history. I see a few heads rolling in upper management once all the dust settles. Oh so overly dramatic. They should be proud, if its true, to support an end to the Fiefdom of Thailand by crook in Dubai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidhere Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Singha beer has already lost a fair chunk on its market share Any proof of your guess or are you just referring to your own drinking within the overall market share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueNoseCodger Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Singha beer has already lost a fair chunk on its market share as Thai people became aware of its involvement with Suthep (via the daughter of Singa beer owner), and protested with their wallet. Probably the worst business mistake and that's why the owner asked his daughter to change her name - damage control. Another 61 companies soon will have the distinction of making the single worst financial transaction in the companies history. I see a few heads rolling in upper management once all the dust settles. Well, seeing as Boon Rawd and Thai Bev and Red Bull are on the list, what on earth will thirsty red shirt farmers drink after a hard days toil in the fields, Heineken or San Miguel Light? Just because a post listed them on Pantip doesn't means its a real leak. It could just be someone writing lists of companies he doesn't like. ThaiBev in particular are Singapore quoted and subject to all manner of disclosure rules, so I'm expecting them to come out and deny it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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