webfact Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Pattaya Russian ATM 'Scammers' BustedBy Khaosod EnglishPATTAYA: -- Police in Pattaya said they have arrested two Russians who used counterfeit cards to steal cash from ATMs.The two suspects were identified as Mr. Dennis Gonsarov, 27, and Mr. Ilya Angriv, 26 (both names are transcribed from Thai texts).In the press conference, the police displayed 202 counterfeit ATM cards and a card skimming device allegedly used by the two suspects. The police added that they have confiscated 18,000 baht from Mr. Gonsarov and Mr. Angriv.They were charged with electronic cards forgery.According to the police, officers in Pattaya have been informed by Kasikorn Bank that two foreigners had been stealing "huge amount" of cash from their ATMs. Detective police eventually arrested the suspects as they were withdrawing cash from an ATM in Banglamung district.Mr. Gonsarov reportedly told police he had planted skimmer device and small camera on ATMs to copy the victim′s cards and observe their passwords. He also allegedly claimed to have sent "millions" of baht back to his homecountry.Investigation is ongoing.Source: http://www.khaosod.co.th/en/view_newsonline.php?newsid=TVRNNU1qSXdPRE0zTmc9PQ== -- Khaosod English 2014-02-13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DD13 Posted February 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2014 Excellent Work by the "Pattaya Police" These cheating thieves (of any Nations).... who steal peoples "hard earned" money should be locked up....fed rice only ......and have the keys thrown away (and make them show their faces....) 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokheat Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 thieves,,,changing peoples lives 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoslim Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Glad the BIB caught them !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 thieves,,,changing peoples lives <deleted>. Fat finger post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OMGImInPattaya Posted February 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2014 Hard to believe people still fall for this scam. Easy to avoid...use ATM's inside bank branches or directly outside them; examine the machine carefully before using it; cover one hand with the other when entering PIN; activate SMS banking alerts for account activity. Easy really. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2008bangkok Posted February 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2014 Hard to believe people still fall for this scam. Easy to avoid...use ATM's inside bank branches or directly outside them; examine the machine carefully before using it; cover one hand with the other when entering PIN; activate SMS banking alerts for account activity. Easy really. I don't think it should be up to us people if the card gets cloned after all the card is the company if the bank as stated on the back if the card and also the ATM machine is owned by the back they should do random checks of there machines to make sure this doesn't happen. Yet if ur unluckily enough to be a victim it's gonna be a whole house of pain and plenty of back and forth to get ur own money back. Best thing nowadays is 2 accounts one without a ATM attached and one with and just transfer small money over as needed 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loles Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) dee, dee, dee do take them to monkey house and do forget the key ... these guys are so shy. aren't they? Edited February 13, 2014 by Loles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noikrit Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Has anybody ever heard if any of these people actually get a jail sentence, Oh ... and serve it ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotorbreeze Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Hard to believe people still fall for this scam. Easy to avoid...use ATM's inside bank branches or directly outside them; examine the machine carefully before using it; cover one hand with the other when entering PIN; activate SMS banking alerts for account activity. Easy really. I have a tin-foil wrapped inside my sleeve that holds my ATM card, this I picked up in Canada's driver licensing office, Canadian's use their Enhanced Drivers License , the license contains a CHIP that id the card holder while showing this as one passes with a vehicle through the boarder crossing scale. I was told your ATM if it has the latest chip technology contains your information and Pin Number, using this sleeve with foil inside will NOT allow portable SKIMMERS that thieves use while walking close to you! I also us SMS notification on use.... Edited February 13, 2014 by Rimmer Please DO NOT post in non standard giant fonts thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 "He also allegedly claimed to have sent "millions" of baht back to his homecountry" how is the money sent back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I don't think it should be up to us people if the card gets cloned after all the card is the company if the bank as stated on the back if the card and also the ATM machine is owned by the back they should do random checks of there machines to make sure this doesn't happen. Thai banks should do lots of things but generally they don't if they can possibly just pass the buck on to someone else (like the customer). Other businesses here do the same. Consumer protection barely exists in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Hard to believe people still fall for this scam. Easy to avoid...use ATM's inside bank branches or directly outside them; examine the machine carefully before using it; cover one hand with the other when entering PIN; activate SMS banking alerts for account activity. Easy really. I don't think it should be up to us people if the card gets cloned after all the card is the company if the bank as stated on the back if the card and also the ATM machine is owned by the back they should do random checks of there machines to make sure this doesn't happen. Yet if ur unluckily enough to be a victim it's gonna be a whole house of pain and plenty of back and forth to get ur own money back.Best thing nowadays is 2 accounts one without a ATM attached and one with and just transfer small money over as needed ATM cards are offered as a convience...one is free to have one or not. Like everything in life, there are costs and benefits that must be weighed. I would imagine most banks do check their machined regularly, especially the ones at branches. However, they can hardly be responsible for the thousands of free standing ones throughout the country. If one is robbed of cash by any method, it's difficult to get the money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD13 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 In the UK when my card was cloned (at a fuel station by Eastern Bloc immigrants working there) HSBC reimbursed the cash..... Why Thai banks don't follow suit bemuses me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Hard to believe people still fall for this scam. Easy to avoid...use ATM's inside bank branches or directly outside them; examine the machine carefully before using it; cover one hand with the other when entering PIN; activate SMS banking alerts for account activity. Easy really. I have a tin-foil wrapped inside my sleeve that holds my ATM card, this I picked up in Canada's driver licensing office, Canadian's use their Enhanced Drivers License , the license contains a CHIP that id the card holder while showing this as one passes with a vehicle through the boarder crossing scale. I was told your ATM if it has the latest chip technology contains your information and Pin Number, using this sleeve with foil inside will NOT allow portable SKIMMERS that thieves use while walking close to you! I also us SMS notification on use.... Matches your tinfoil hat I'm sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hgv driver Posted February 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2014 Excellent Work by the "Pattaya Police" These cheating thieves (of any Nations).... who steal peoples "hard earned" money should be locked up....fed rice only ......and have the keys thrown away (and make them show their faces....) I agree with DD13 but what do you expect from these Russian scum, when they pulled the wall down they spread like a virus world wide. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew2027 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 1st August 2013................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 "He also allegedly claimed to have sent "millions" of baht back to his homecountry" how is the money sent back? Through Kasikorn bank. If they were skimming that much, how come they only had 18,000 when the Bib picked them up...oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Excellent Work by the "Pattaya Police" These cheating thieves (of any Nations).... who steal peoples "hard earned" money should be locked up....fed rice only ......and have the keys thrown away (and make them show their faces....) Good idea, maybe pass it on to Yingluck, she needs somebody to consume the piles of decaying rice. Maybe the prison service could handle it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMarlow Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 "He also allegedly claimed to have sent "millions" of baht back to his homecountry" how is the money sent back? Through Kasikorn bank. If they were skimming that much, how come they only had 18,000 when the Bib picked them up...oh. What, risk the ire of the TV posters who become indignant when anyone carries more than the cost of a can of Leo on their person? Seriously though, you're right, if the report is accurate they should be carrying all the money they've ever stolen with them, regardless of the fact that the report has stated that the millions had been sent out of the country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy6 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Excellent Work by the "Pattaya Police" These cheating thieves (of any Nations).... who steal peoples "hard earned" money should be locked up....fed rice only ......and have the keys thrown away (and make them show their faces....) I agree with DD13 but what do you expect from these Russian scum, when they pulled the wall down they spread like a virus world wide. Fng Reagan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Would foreigners get a work permit when building a "Gulag" in Thailand, they could build the train tracks for the high speed trains? And of course the first who'll make a test drive on same trains with Yingluck and her older brother as the driver.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 great work...2 mores russian SLOTHS of the streets.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex8912 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 No one has mentioned they needed a work permit to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudRight Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 No one has mentioned they needed a work permit to do this. They're not eligible. They would have been stealing the job from Thais. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makkam Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Thai police and politicians steal millions every year with impunity. Funny Old world. Clearly they weren't giving any of their proceeds to the pattaya BiB, otherwise they could be continuing to coin it in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis7 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 It Sad to see that some people steals other people's hard working money and savings just lie that. Show no mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinoThailand Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 thieves,,,changing peoples livesand us the system creates more thieves bravo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equalizer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Finger print technology is very cheap these days, i am a member of Pattaya Country Club golf and they scan my thumb before i play. would this not solve everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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