Mosha Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 If the judges say no case to answer, what then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 A very justified warning. Democrats sue everyone in sight, why not PTP? And the EC has been especially obstructionist and irresponsible in its "independent" role overseeing the elections. That is to say, it seems to do everything in its power not to have elections and if they do occur, to do everything to invalidate them. A dictator certainly would make EC's role a lot simpler, no opposition parties to bother them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeamchabangLarry Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 A very justified warning. Democrats sue everyone in sight, why not PTP? And the EC has been especially obstructionist and irresponsible in its "independent" role overseeing the elections. That is to say, it seems to do everything in its power not to have elections and if they do occur, to do everything to invalidate them. A dictator certainly would make EC's role a lot simpler, no opposition parties to bother them. ugly misinformation strewn throughout the entire post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikoman Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) The Election Commission have a role as defined by the constitution. Because they are independent and do not do what this corrupt government wants, they are now trying to bully them into submission. Time to install bullet proof glass before the messengers arrive. What the PTP are threatening is because the E.C. has failed to observe its role as defined in the constitution, of the deadlines of the maximum time that the EC must complete the by elections. PTP is demanding that the EC holds it election within the time limits dictated by the constitution, which the EC has refused to do! Cheers Edited February 23, 2014 by kikoman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The Election Commission have a role as defined by the constitution. Because they are independent and do not do what this corrupt government wants, they are now trying to bully them into submission. Time to install bullet proof glass before the messengers arrive. What the PTP are threatening is because the E.C. has failed to observe its role as defined in the constitution, of the deadlines of the maximum time that the EC must complete the by elections. PTP is demanding that the EC holds it election within the time limits dictated by the constitution, which the EC has refused to do! Cheers Even the neutrals on this forum can clearly see what the EC is trying to do. Only stubborn fools will refuse to acknowledge that the EC is trying to get the elections annulled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Threaten the cowards,.... the thing in which the Thaksin cronies are best at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The Election Commission have a role as defined by the constitution. Because they are independent and do not do what this corrupt government wants, they are now trying to bully them into submission. Time to install bullet proof glass before the messengers arrive. What the PTP are threatening is because the E.C. has failed to observe its role as defined in the constitution, of the deadlines of the maximum time that the EC must complete the by elections. PTP is demanding that the EC holds it election within the time limits dictated by the constitution, which the EC has refused to do! Cheers Even the neutrals on this forum can clearly see what the EC is trying to do. Only stubborn fools will refuse to acknowledge that the EC is trying to get the elections annulled. With the main aim being killing that amnesty bill. What is wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleeing Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 So whoopie da! Sue the EC, then the NACC why not the Constitutional, Criminal and Civil Courts as well? Sue everyone who disagrees with Pheu Thai. In the end it doesn't make a blind bit of difference despite Yingluck's instructions to hang on, cost what it may. The attempt to force through elections without any effective opposition, quite probably to push big brother's amnesty bill through and no doubt attractive to a monopolist like Thaksin, has failed miserably. Even if by some miracle it was physically possible to hold the remaining elections according to the terms of the constitution, the result would be a parliament representing a minority of the population. The protests would not only continue but likely increase in strength making the management of the country even more impossible. The only difference, even if the parliament could convene, would be that the Shinawatras could continue to try to embezzle the country. There will be no solution until there is some broad agreement on reforms and new elections are held with the participation of all parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueNoseCodger Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 So whoopie da! Sue the EC, then the NACC why not the Constitutional, Criminal and Civil Courts as well? Sue everyone who disagrees with Pheu Thai. In the end it doesn't make a blind bit of difference despite Yingluck's instructions to hang on, cost what it may. The attempt to force through elections without any effective opposition, quite probably to push big brother's amnesty bill through and no doubt attractive to a monopolist like Thaksin, has failed miserably. Even if by some miracle it was physically possible to hold the remaining elections according to the terms of the constitution, the result would be a parliament representing a minority of the population. The protests would not only continue but likely increase in strength making the management of the country even more impossible. The only difference, even if the parliament could convene, would be that the Shinawatras could continue to try to embezzle the country. There will be no solution until there is some broad agreement on reforms and new elections are held with the participation of all parties. "Sue the EC, then the NACC why not the Constitutional, Criminal and Civil Courts" How else do you challenge independant organisations behaving in partisan ways? "The attempt to force through elections without any effective opposition," The constitution forces through elections. The effective opposition refused to stand for election. The CC have them a second chance to join the election. Abhisit and Suthep declined that second chance. "Even if by some miracle" It would be miracle if EC organized elections as per its constitutional duty?? All that takes is for them to do their jobs! "the result would be a parliament representing a minority of the population" It always does. It represents the majority of the people who voted, not the majority of the total population. Apathetic people don't get representation because they didn't choose to be represented. "The protests would not only continue but likely increase in strength" Fiction. You never had the numbers you claimed, and you have only tiny numbers now. "Shinawatras could continue to try to embezzle" False claim designed to demonize the elected PM. "There will be no solution until there is some broad agreement on reforms and new elections are held with the participation of all parties." In a democracy, power to reform comes from the people in the form of votes. Not to the people into the form of popcorn. The solution is for the independant bodies to do their jobs, without this partisan nonsense, Suthep to be prosecuted for his "Popcorn revolution". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Seems we have a new threat not Pheu Thai Party threathens to file complaint w/ police against Election Commission if Feb.2 election cannot be completed /The Nation These clowns just cant seem to understand that threats, demands and intimidation are not the way to get anything done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 So, the Pheu Thai is getting better at the law than many others including courts it would seem. A bit afraid a new Royal Decree might cause an implicit invalidation of the Feb2 elections? No problem with elections stretched over months though which according to me seem even less democratic. BTW any news on the renewed advance voting yesterday? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 A very justified warning. Democrats sue everyone in sight, why not PTP? And the EC has been especially obstructionist and irresponsible in its "independent" role overseeing the elections. That is to say, it seems to do everything in its power not to have elections and if they do occur, to do everything to invalidate them. A dictator certainly would make EC's role a lot simpler, no opposition parties to bother them. Pheu Thai sue every one in their sights. The EC has had an enourmously difficult task and Ms. Yingluck obfuscating and footdragging (together with Pheu Thai) hasn't helped either. As for 'no opposition parties', well, with a "we won the elections, we have a mandate" Pheu Thai led government ignoring the opposition and trying to push through that blanket amnesty bill which even covered the first two years of Ms. Yingluck's government ... ... Apart from that at least you had used a spell checker, no typing errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The Election Commission have a role as defined by the constitution. Because they are independent and do not do what this corrupt government wants, they are now trying to bully them into submission. Time to install bullet proof glass before the messengers arrive. What the PTP are threatening is because the E.C. has failed to observe its role as defined in the constitution, of the deadlines of the maximum time that the EC must complete the by elections. PTP is demanding that the EC holds it election within the time limits dictated by the constitution, which the EC has refused to do! Cheers Even the neutrals on this forum can clearly see what the EC is trying to do. Only stubborn fools will refuse to acknowledge that the EC is trying to get the elections annulled. With the main aim being killing that amnesty bill. What is wrong with that? Nothing wrong with that, other than the fact that it's not the EC's duty and responsibility in the first place. I guess with your own comment, you can no longer state the the EC is neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Its actually willful negligence by these scumbags. Hopefully there is some jail time for the EC. PTP tactics, if they don't do what PTP wants then threaten them with Jail. Such a democratic approach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The Election Commission have a role as defined by the constitution. Because they are independent and do not do what this corrupt government wants, they are now trying to bully them into submission. Time to install bullet proof glass before the messengers arrive. What the PTP are threatening is because the E.C. has failed to observe its role as defined in the constitution, of the deadlines of the maximum time that the EC must complete the by elections. PTP is demanding that the EC holds it election within the time limits dictated by the constitution, which the EC has refused to do! Cheers Even the neutrals on this forum can clearly see what the EC is trying to do. Only stubborn fools will refuse to acknowledge that the EC is trying to get the elections annulled. What the neutrals see is a government that is not in control, doing anything it can to stay in power. It is the PTP who violate the constitution. How anyone can think that the current situation lend itself to free and fair elections Just isn't thinking straight. It is even more certain that PTP have caused the current problems, and have themselves to blame only. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Even the neutrals on this forum can clearly see what the EC is trying to do. Only stubborn fools will refuse to acknowledge that the EC is trying to get the elections annulled. What the neutrals see is a government that is not in control, doing anything it can to stay in power. It is the PTP who violate the constitution. How anyone can think that the current situation lend itself to free and fair elections Just isn't thinking straight. It is even more certain that PTP have caused the current problems, and have themselves to blame only. Even I, a self confessed government supporter, can see that the government is not in control. There is nothing wrong for any government in the world to want to stay in power - same goes for CEO's, chairmans of boards, MD's, managers, staff....... But that's not the topic of this thread. We are talking about the EC, not PT. Do you seriously believe that the EC is completely neutral and impartial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Even the neutrals on this forum can clearly see what the EC is trying to do. Only stubborn fools will refuse to acknowledge that the EC is trying to get the elections annulled. What the neutrals see is a government that is not in control, doing anything it can to stay in power. It is the PTP who violate the constitution. How anyone can think that the current situation lend itself to free and fair elections Just isn't thinking straight. It is even more certain that PTP have caused the current problems, and have themselves to blame only. Even I, a self confessed government supporter, can see that the government is not in control. There is nothing wrong for any government in the world to want to stay in power - same goes for CEO's, chairmans of boards, MD's, managers, staff....... But that's not the topic of this thread. We are talking about the EC, not PT. Do you seriously believe that the EC is completely neutral and impartial? Don't tell me what the topic is, especially when they are related. And Yes I do believe the EC are neutral. IT suites Reds to suggest otherwise. For obvious reasons. Next you'll tell me that PTP are the real democrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The PT calling the EC negligent is the very definition of the pot calling the kettle black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 What the PTP are threatening is because the E.C. has failed to observe its role as defined in the constitution, of the deadlines of the maximum time that the EC must complete the by elections. PTP is demanding that the EC holds it election within the time limits dictated by the constitution, which the EC has refused to do! Cheers Even the neutrals on this forum can clearly see what the EC is trying to do. Only stubborn fools will refuse to acknowledge that the EC is trying to get the elections annulled. With the main aim being killing that amnesty bill. What is wrong with that? Nothing wrong with that, other than the fact that it's not the EC's duty and responsibility in the first place. I guess with your own comment, you can no longer state the the EC is neutral. Did I claim they were neutral? And I'll ask again, what is wrong with stopping the amnesty bill? Is that right or is that wrong? A simple yes or no will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Even the neutrals on this forum can clearly see what the EC is trying to do. Only stubborn fools will refuse to acknowledge that the EC is trying to get the elections annulled. With the main aim being killing that amnesty bill. What is wrong with that? Nothing wrong with that, other than the fact that it's not the EC's duty and responsibility in the first place. I guess with your own comment, you can no longer state the the EC is neutral. Did I claim they were neutral? And I'll ask again, what is wrong with stopping the amnesty bill? Is that right or is that wrong? A simple yes or no will do. Nothing wrong with stopping the amnesty bill if you think it's not good for the forward progress of Thailand. Is that the EC's responsibility? A simple yes or no will do. Edited February 24, 2014 by Gweiloman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 With the main aim being killing that amnesty bill. What is wrong with that? Nothing wrong with that, other than the fact that it's not the EC's duty and responsibility in the first place. I guess with your own comment, you can no longer state the the EC is neutral. Did I claim they were neutral? And I'll ask again, what is wrong with stopping the amnesty bill? Is that right or is that wrong? A simple yes or no will do. Nothing wrong with stopping the amnesty bill if you think it's not good for the forward progress of Thailand. Is that the EC's responsibility? A simple yes or no will do. If it benefits the majority, and they can do it, then. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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