webfact Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 POLLPublic supports talks between Suthep and YingluckThe NationBANGKOK: -- A majority of people agree that People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) leader Suthep Thaugsuban and caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra should hold one-on-one talks broadcast live on television in a bid to end the political deadlock, according to Suan Dusit Poll.The poll was conducted on 1,354 people around the country from February 27 till Saturday. Close to 71 per cent agreed that they should meet for talks because this could possibly lead to an end to the political crisis.About 23 per cent said they were uncertain about the report, which did not give a date or time or exact form of talks, while 6 per cent disagreed, saying it could widen the conflict.Just under 92 per cent of respondents agreed that the talks should be broadcast live on TV, while 8 per cent disagreed, saying that speaking live on TV would make it hard for them to share their opinions in full. -- The Nation 2014-03-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angsta Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 So public opinion can be trusted to vote on something like this but not on say an election? Gotcha. What's not to like? I thought 'honest' Suthep wasn't open to negotiation? I guess now he has little or no ground support he is running out of ideas. #thenationthinkseveryoneisstupid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 What's to be afraid of? Everything out on the table, one on one for everyone to see and hear. Nothing to hide is there? I am sure Ms Yingluck is up to the challenge, after all, the debate would be in Thai language. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyself Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 while 8 per cent disagreed, saying that speaking live on TV would make it hard for them to share their opinions in full. Gotta love Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyself Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 What's to be afraid of? Everything out on the table, one on one for everyone to see and hear. Nothing to hide is there? I am sure Ms Yingluck is up to the challenge, after all, the debate would be in Thai language. Y'know, what makes this all the more farcical is that Suthep hasn't even mentioned what he envisions which makes a great opening statement in a debate. He has said he will not go back into politics after Yingluck goes and hope he does that but who knows? They are all a bunch of freeloaders regardless of political affiliation and it's been going on for as far back as you can find out about. To keep this status quo, only the cream can be skimmed from atop the milk because without milk, there is no cream. Yingluck or rather her brother have gone deep under the cream into the milk to extract even more cream and for that they will pay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikoman Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Public opinion at the protest sites, and they could not get 100% there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangkokheat Posted March 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2014 there shouldnt be any talks with suthep, he has an arrest warrant against him 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyself Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) there shouldnt be any talks with suthep, he has an arrest warrant against him Should be no talks with Yingluck, rather caretaker president elect Thaksin. [Edit] 1.1A person in control of another: Im not just a monkey dancing to the organ grinders tune [with reference to the tradition of an organ grinder's keeping a monkey trained to collect money] http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/organ-grinder Speak to the organ grinder not the monkey. Wanting to talk to the boss not his sidekick. Organ grinders being the boss, and the monkey being the one who helps him out. Normally used in a conversation to describe the 'monkey' as someone who's interfering and defending or covering for the the 'organ grinder'. Shut up! I wish to speak to the organ grinder not the monkey. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Speak%20to%20the%20organ%20grinder%20not%20the%20monkey. Edited March 3, 2014 by notmyself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uty6543 Posted March 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2014 there shouldnt be any talks with suthep, he has an arrest warrant against him An arrest warrant does not indicate guilt, convictions do. Anyone with convictions should not be allowed to talk for the government or to actually run the government even by proxy. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rametindallas Posted March 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2014 Now this is just cruel. Suthep is a seasoned, tough politician and Madam Yingluck, even with almost three years at the top of government is a novice. She will be crying within five minutes; hopelessly out-debated. Now, it you want a fair and exciting debate, have Pol. Capt. Chalerm proxy for Ms Yingluck. Just make sure the debate is not too late in the day because of 'ear medicine'. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chainarong Posted March 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2014 Suthep has already held talks with Yingluck ,at the very beginning of this shambles, the stumbling point is that Yingluck cannot make decisions, always referring to another person, so you get to wounder who are you talking to, the Caretaker Prime Minister or the puppet Prime Minister, this is why Suthep has avoided anymore talks , advice is being given to Yingluck clearly from Thaskin , until this stops nothing will be achieved 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huk Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Public opinion at the protest sites, and they could not get 100% there! Yep, I can't say I'm surprised though, with a protest slogan of "Beating War Drums" 8% against sounds about right! I am a little surprised that the Nation would enter redshirt protests to gather a poll like this but if Soy Sauce says it, it must be true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikurauni Posted March 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2014 People want to find out what PM will say. The PM will probably get grilled by Suthep. But the public needs to know what kind of PM she is. Also people need to know why PDRC is doing what they believe to do. Most people in Bangkok might already know why Suthep is doing PDRC but the red country in the north might not have a clue. Live TV talk is probably the best way communicate with Thai people and this is what people want. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyself Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Now this is just cruel. Suthep is a seasoned, tough politician and Madam Yingluck, even with almost three years at the top of government is a novice. She will be crying within five minutes; hopelessly out-debated. Now, it you want a fair and exciting debate, have Pol. Capt. Chalerm proxy for Ms Yingluck. Just make sure the debate is not too late in the day because of 'ear medicine'. Wouldn't solve anything but no doubt would be a good watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Public opinion at the protest sites, and they could not get 100% there! Yep, I can't say I'm surprised though, with a protest slogan of "Beating War Drums" 8% against sounds about right! I am a little surprised that the Nation would enter redshirt protests to gather a poll like this but if Soy Sauce says it, it must be true! Entering protest sites? What are you guys talking about? It doesn't mention protest sites, it says "around the country" . . . The poll was conducted on 1,354 people around the country from February 27 till Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sweatalot Posted March 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2014 Now this is just cruel. Suthep is a seasoned, tough politician and Madam Yingluck, even with almost three years at the top of government is a novice. She will be crying within five minutes; hopelessly out-debated. Now, it you want a fair and exciting debate, have Pol. Capt. Chalerm proxy for Ms Yingluck. Just make sure the debate is not too late in the day because of 'ear medicine'. If she is the (caretaker) PM it is her and only her duty to represent the government (not only) in a discussion If she is incapable of that she should not be (caretaker) PM in the first place 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Public opinion at the protest sites, and they could not get 100% there! There you go, posting false information again, can't help yourself? The poll was conducted on 1,354 people around the country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkman Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Public opinion at the protest sites, and they could not get 100% there! Where does it mention protest sites? You're easily amused. Why, do you think Red Shirt Supporters, don't want a live debate? Why's that? Got something to hide or do you think your saviour ain't up to the task? She says she is in charge and no puppet, so If you can talk the talk, then walk it. What are you guys worried about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Ms. Yingluck says she will die for democracy. Will she debate for democracy? She didn't have a problem speaking her mind in Mongolia. All her supporters claim she is so smart and in control. I, personally, would love to see her vigorously defend her government's policies and show how well they were implemented. I would love to know how her anti-corruption campaign is progressing. Please, let's have a debate where the PM actually speaks in her own behalf (something the voters didn't get in the last no-confidence debate in Parliament nor in the run-up to her election over Abhisit). A live television debate would show her supporters and the World that she is competent and truly deserving to be the leader of Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOD Robin Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Now this is just cruel. Suthep is a seasoned, tough politician and Madam Yingluck, even with almost three years at the top of government is a novice. She will be crying within five minutes; hopelessly out-debated. Now, it you want a fair and exciting debate, have Pol. Capt. Chalerm proxy for Ms Yingluck. Just make sure the debate is not too late in the day because of 'ear medicine'. If she is the (caretaker) PM it is her and only her duty to represent the government (not only) in a discussion If she is incapable of that she should not be (caretaker) PM in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 So public opinion can be trusted to vote on something like this but not on say an election? Gotcha. What's not to like? I thought 'honest' Suthep wasn't open to negotiation? I guess now he has little or no ground support he is running out of ideas. #thenationthinkseveryoneisstupid Suthep has always been open to talks, it are the ridiculous demands and conditions for those negotiations from the PM that make them senseless, so why should he bother . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 1.354 People representing the public ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan7444 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 there shouldnt be any talks with suthep, he has an arrest warrant against him Wouldn't it be dereliction of duty for Yingluck and her security detail to arrest him once he enters any venue for such a debate? Nice to capture it on national TV with him in handcuffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 there shouldnt be any talks with suthep, he has an arrest warrant against him By the same token, the government shouldn't be taking instruction from a convict on the run either, but that hasn't stopped them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 What's to be afraid of? Everything out on the table, one on one for everyone to see and hear. Nothing to hide is there? I am sure Ms Yingluck is up to the challenge, after all, the debate would be in Thai language. Given the nature of these type debates I am quite sure there is no reason for her to shy away from it. How ever I am relatively sure Suthep is not open to a debate on pre arranged topics that Yingluck could study up on and bring notes. He would rather meet her with all topics on the schedule pick and choose what each one wants. For instance Suthep might inquire what Thaksin Shinawatra's name was doing on public supplies to the flood victims in 2011. Why did she turn down an American aircraft carrier capable of producing and delivering water for every one while the government stored water in the old airport. Of course Yingluck would be free to ask him any thing she wished to. The past of both candidates would be left out. That means accusations of corruption on Suthep's part and accusations of phony college degree and powder puff no account family supported business experience. It would be strictly about the current governments actions and policies and there intent. As it would for Suthep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scamper Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 So the public agrees with Suthep's proposal, that Yingluck turned down flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Any Yingluck-Suthep equivalency is a wrongheaded construction if not a false one because Suthep is a street thug insurrectionist who actively and forcibly is against the election and demands cancelling parliamentary government in favor of a still anonymous "People's Council" of autocrats appointed by oligarchs and elites for a dangerously extended period of time. Any debate needs to be between the chair persons of each major party or the parliamentary leaders of the several major parties. Any public debate needs to respect a proper matching up of sides. Suthep holds no position of government or state, is not elected or officially appointed so speaks only for himself and for the anonymous feudalists that disastrously backed and financed his miserably failed shutdown and insurrection. Moroever, Suthep at this point is a fist pounding has been who never was except for his nefarious role as the 2010 government's enforcer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonc Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Any Yingluck-Suthep equivalency is a wrongheaded construction if not a false one because Suthep is a street thug insurrectionist who actively and forcibly is against the election and demands cancelling parliamentary government in favor of a still anonymous "People's Council" of autocrats appointed by oligarchs and elites for a dangerously extended period of time. Any debate needs to be between the chair persons of each major party or the parliamentary leaders of the several major parties. Any public debate needs to respect a proper matching up of sides. Suthep holds no position of government or state, is not elected or officially appointed so speaks only for himself and for the anonymous feudalists that disastrously backed and financed his miserably failed shutdown and insurrection. Moroever, Suthep at this point is a fist pounding has been who never was except for his nefarious role as the 2010 government's enforcer. so in good ol us of a the leaders debate live...but you wont have it here even though your not thai..???.hypocrite.. again a 3rd rate post .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Any Yingluck-Suthep equivalency is a wrongheaded construction if not a false one because Suthep is a street thug insurrectionist who actively and forcibly is against the election and demands cancelling parliamentary government in favor of a still anonymous "People's Council" of autocrats appointed by oligarchs and elites for a dangerously extended period of time. Any debate needs to be between the chair persons of each major party or the parliamentary leaders of the several major parties. Any public debate needs to respect a proper matching up of sides. Suthep holds no position of government or state, is not elected or officially appointed so speaks only for himself and for the anonymous feudalists that disastrously backed and financed his miserably failed shutdown and insurrection. Moroever, Suthep at this point is a fist pounding has been who never was except for his nefarious role as the 2010 government's enforcer. so in good ol us of a the leaders debate live...but you wont have it here even though your not thai..???.hypocrite.. again a 3rd rate post .. Easy for you to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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