It's not rape in my opinion... it's greed in action + stupidity on high level.

If she said no.. for gold, money and sex she would not get this evil push for self power... that is an exchange of energy; no more.. but yes after sale service seems to be lack of quality. So now she complains.. but too late for her and now her husband knows that she <deleted> a black god ! Lol

Hope she understand something with these eperience : find a better magician and fortune teller with real skills.. and small dick if possible.

It was rape.

how can it be rape...? manipulation and seduction yes but rape? she agreed to it

It's not rape in my opinion... it's greed in action + stupidity on high level.

If she said no.. for gold, money and sex she would not get this evil push for self power... that is an exchange of energy; no more.. but yes after sale service seems to be lack of quality. So now she complains.. but too late for her and now her husband knows that she <deleted> a black god ! Lol

Hope she understand something with these eperience : find a better magician and fortune teller with real skills.. and small dick if possible.

It was rape.

how can it be rape...? manipulation and seduction yes but rape? she agreed to it

The report says she was coerced. That is not giving consent. That is force. That is rape.

Is it really a case of rape, if a woman agrees to have sex, believing for whatsoever stupid reason to benefit from the act and even pays for this "service"?

"She was also allegedly instructed to give him some money and coerced into having sex with him."

Coerced equals rape.

It's not rape in my opinion... it's greed in action + stupidity on high level.

If she said no.. for gold, money and sex she would not get this evil push for self power... that is an exchange of energy; no more.. but yes after sale service seems to be lack of quality. So now she complains.. but too late for her and now her husband knows that she <deleted> a black god ! Lol

Hope she understand something with these eperience : find a better magician and fortune teller with real skills.. and small dick if possible.

It was rape.

how can it be rape...? manipulation and seduction yes but rape? she agreed to it

The report says she was coerced. That is not giving consent. That is force. That is rape.

"coerced" so if I "coerced" a lady with a 1000 baht note- would this be rape also

Is it really a case of rape, if a woman agrees to have sex, believing for whatsoever stupid reason to benefit from the act and even pays for this "service"?

"She was also allegedly instructed to give him some money and coerced into having sex with him."

Coerced equals rape.

Nope, she agreed to it. No force used. Yeh disgraceful but folk can be manipulated. As I said before, Waco is a prime example.

Is it really a case of rape, if a woman agrees to have sex, believing for whatsoever stupid reason to benefit from the act and even pays for this "service"?

"She was also allegedly instructed to give him some money and coerced into having sex with him."

Coerced equals rape.

Nope, she agreed to it. No force used. Yeh disgraceful but folk can be manipulated. As I said before, Waco is a prime example.

Nope. Report says she was coerced. That is not agreeing. It was rape.

@petermik

1 : to restrain or dominate by force <religion in the past has tried to coerce the irreligious W. R. Inge> 2 : to compel to an act or choice <was coerced into agreeing> 3 : to achieve by force or threat <coerce compliance>

Buy him some gold, give him some money, and then have sex.

Sounds like a Pattaya bar girl.

It's not rape in my opinion... it's greed in action + stupidity on high level.

If she said no.. for gold, money and sex she would not get this evil push for self power... that is an exchange of energy; no more.. but yes after sale service seems to be lack of quality. So now she complains.. but too late for her and now her husband knows that she &lt;deleted&gt; a black god ! Lol

Hope she understand something with these eperience : find a better magician and fortune teller with real skills.. and small dick if possible.

It was rape.

how can it be rape...? manipulation and seduction yes but rape? she agreed to it

Question. If you agree to pay a bar girl for sex, then have sex with her , but do not pay her.

Would you then class that as rape.

Yes she was coerced said the newspaper, and if she does not agree.. he will may be very mean and do not offer her the promised spell !

and after that.. he threatening her with black magic and youtube... whaooo she was so much coerced, TOO VIOLENT, i won't sleep tonight

Raping somebody is when this person doesn't want to and says so, fight against it >> but it seems she did wanted the benefit of the magical spell much more than not having sex with the magician, ok but Buisiness is Buisness after all, sometimes you have to sacrify yourself for the best !

Is it really a case of rape, if a woman agrees to have sex, believing for whatsoever stupid reason to benefit from the act and even pays for this "service"?

"She was also allegedly instructed to give him some money and coerced into having sex with him."

Coerced equals rape.

Nope, she agreed to it. No force used. Yeh disgraceful but folk can be manipulated. As I said before, Waco is a prime example.

Nope. Report says she was coerced. That is not agreeing. It was rape.

Perhaps you have insider info, l don't, if she agreed cos of what she was told then it was her decision, but l do know about the Waco thing.

did she came on a Tantra Orgasmic Ritual ?

if yes that is ok to bring him gold and money... men who pleased women are so rare these days ^^

@Transam

Won't argue about Waco. However if a woman says she was coerced into sex then that is rape in my book.

Yes she was coerced said the newspaper, and if she does not agree.. he will may be very mean and do not offer her the promised spell !

and after that.. he threatening her with black magic and youtube... whaooo she was so much coerced, TOO VIOLENT, i won't sleep tonight

Raping somebody is when this person doesn't want to and says so, fight against it >> but it seems she did wanted the benefit of the magical spell much more than not having sex with the magician, ok but Buisiness is Buisness after all, sometimes you have to sacrify yourself for the best !

Couple of things here.

Do you sincerely think you a man can use an interpretation of a technicality tied up with a semantic argument to get off an accusation of rape? Really, if it is so open to interpretation, it reeks of just being an excuse.

If it wasn't rape (in HIS mind), why did he have to blackmail them?

did she came on a Tantra Orgasmic Ritual ?

if yes that is ok to bring him gold and money... men who pleased women are so rare these days ^^

How nice for you that you find this woman's rape so entertaining.

How stupid is that magician.. with the gold he could have really nice one that dont pretend to be raped afterward.

If it wasn't rape (in HIS mind), why did he have to blackmail them?

He did blackmail her to get more money... telling he will post the pictures of their intercourse on youtube but it should be youporn I guess^^

now I hope she listen to this every day and night : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQAbzLUl9ns

I hope she understood something.. but i guess she went straight to the temple for cleansing and enlightement.. don't worry there are some monks who are also waiting for you there on the same manner but they rarely finish in jail.

did she came on a Tantra Orgasmic Ritual ?

if yes that is ok to bring him gold and money... men who pleased women are so rare these days ^^

How nice for you that you find this woman's rape so entertaining.

somehow it makes me think about a crocodile entering into a leather shop ^^

How stupid is that magician.. with the gold he could have really nice one that dont pretend to be raped afterward.

If it wasn't rape (in HIS mind), why did he have to blackmail them?

He did blackmail her to get more money... telling he will post the pictures of their intercourse on youtube but it should be youporn I guess^^

now I hope she listen to this every day and night :

I hope she understood something.. but i guess she went straight to the temple for cleansing and enlightement.. don't worry there are some monks who are also waiting for you there on the same manner but they rarely finish in jail.

I'm sorry, but are you saying this rapist fraudulent charlatan scumbag of a man did nothing wrong and the victim he raped is a liar?

I'm sorry, but are you saying this rapist fraudulent charlatan scumbag of a man did nothing wrong and the victim he raped is a liar?

Where did you read this ? I think that abusing people is really not a good idea, this one is a scumbag.. that's for sure.. just a little bit more clever than his victims..

But I was not there to look how he screwed her but I guess she did not say no too many times.. because of her will to get what she wanted, that was part of the contract between them, that's what we are talking about here, put them both in jail : one for abusing other and her because she wants to get things without working to get it.. tweaks ways are not good, don't you think ? Buying Short Cuts means a lot about this kind of mind.

But If you want to hang him.. no problem for me !

I'm sorry, but are you saying this rapist fraudulent charlatan scumbag of a man did nothing wrong and the victim he raped is a liar?

Where did you read this ? I think that abusing people is really not a good idea, this one is a scumbag.. that's for sure.. just a little bit more clever than his victims..

But I was not there to look how he screwed her but I guess she did not say no too many times.. because of her will to get what she wanted, that was part of the contract between them, that's what we are talking about here, put them both in jail : one for abusing other and her because she wants to get things without working to get it.. tweaks ways are not good, don't you think ? Buying Short Cuts means a lot about this kind of mind.

But If you want to hang him.. no problem for me !

Where did I read this you say:

Quote: "How stupid is that magician.. with the gold he could have really nice one that dont pretend to be raped afterward."

From there I guess.

I don't want to hang any one, but rape is a horrific crime that far too few feel able to report. If someone is brave enough to do so they should not be mocked or called a liar, which is effectively what the above quote from you does.

Or did I misinterpret you?

There was also some humour mixed with these words.. did you noticed ?

I just talked about this with my wife, the whole story is on thairath of course and many details are not on the english report.

now it's being really crazy.. this man does that to many women.. and MEN too ^^

He's assisted by his wife and 3 disciples(women) that police is looking after.

"but rape is a horrific crime" >> that's for sure i do agree on that, but this is not rape.. it's is abusing people and everything has being recorded on videos for years... very sad story !

For these women the story is that she cames many times to see him and giving money.. but no results, so she had to agree to go to the superior level of evil tricks by accepting sex recorded on tape.. but after no results even with this.. she felt shitted and angry against him : GOOD that she decided to report the case like 6 others one did.

This man has a website to promote his buisiness too.. welcome to this ugly world !

There was also some humour mixed with these words.. did you noticed ?

I just talked about this with my wife, the whole story is on thairath of course and many details are not on the english report.

now it's being really crazy.. this man does that to many women.. and MEN too ^^

He's assisted by his wife and 3 disciples(women) that police is looking after.

"but rape is a horrific crime" >> that's for sure i do agree on that, but this is not rape.. it's is abusing people and everything has being recorded on videos for years... very sad story !

For these women the story is that she cames many times to see him and giving money.. but no results, so she had to agree to go to the superior level of evil tricks by accepting sex recorded on tape.. but after no results even with this.. she felt shitted and angry against him : GOOD that she decided to report the case like 6 others one did.

This man has a website to promote his buisiness too.. welcome to this ugly world !

Well we mostly agree except I see this as rape and for me it is a crime that does not allow for humour.

The women will of course claim they were "coerced" into having sex. However I have a hard time trying to imagine just how the hell they could be "forced" to do it.

But, I don't actually see the word "rape" used anywhere, so Bluespunk, you are putting words in their mouth here...

It is common Thai folklore knowledge that having sex with a witch-doctor is part of the ทำเสน่ห์ ritual. The women knew very well what's involved.

The magical charm potion they're after is called "ยาแฝด".

It's also correct to refer him as a "necromancer" because some of the other potions that he is able to concoct is a so called น้ำมันพราย which involves ingredients from corpses.

The women will of course claim they were "coerced" into having sex. However I have a hard time trying to imagine just how the hell they could be "forced" to do it.

But, I don't actually see the word "rape" used anywhere, so Bluespunk, you are putting words in their mouth here...

It is common Thai folklore knowledge that having sex with a witch-doctor is part of the ทำเสน่ห์ ritual. The women knew very well what's involved.

The magical charm potion they're after is called "ยาแฝด".

It's also correct to refer him as a "necromancer" because some of the other potions that he is able to concoct is a so called น้ำมันพราย which involves ingredients from corpses.

How can coercing someone into sex not be considered rape?

The guy is a scumbag, worthless charlatan rapist piece of crud. Nothing more, probably less.

It's not rape in my opinion... it's greed in action + stupidity on high level.

If she said no.. for gold, money and sex she would not get this evil push for self power... that is an exchange of energy; no more.. but yes after sale service seems to be lack of quality. So now she complains.. but too late for her and now her husband knows that she &lt;deleted&gt; a black god ! Lol

Hope she understand something with these eperience : find a better magician and fortune teller with real skills.. and small dick if possible.

It was rape.

how can it be rape...? manipulation and seduction yes but rape? she agreed to it

Question. If you agree to pay a bar girl for sex, then have sex with her , but do not pay her.

Would you then class that as rape.

no - fraud

The women will of course claim they were "coerced" into having sex. However I have a hard time trying to imagine just how the hell they could be "forced" to do it.

But, I don't actually see the word "rape" used anywhere, so Bluespunk, you are putting words in their mouth here...

It is common Thai folklore knowledge that having sex with a witch-doctor is part of the ทำเสน่ห์ ritual. The women knew very well what's involved.

The magical charm potion they're after is called "ยาแฝด".

It's also correct to refer him as a "necromancer" because some of the other potions that he is able to concoct is a so called น้ำมันพราย which involves ingredients from corpses.

How can coercing someone into sex not be considered rape?

The guy is a scumbag, worthless charlatan rapist piece of crud. Nothing more, probably less.

The guy is a scumbag, worthless charlatan

Agreed!!!

but rape? no... he tricked and deceived

Yeah, he's a necromancer all right (with the emphasis on "romance").

The women will of course claim they were "coerced" into having sex. However I have a hard time trying to imagine just how the hell they could be "forced" to do it.

But, I don't actually see the word "rape" used anywhere, so Bluespunk, you are putting words in their mouth here...

It is common Thai folklore knowledge that having sex with a witch-doctor is part of the ทำเสน่ห์ ritual. The women knew very well what's involved.

The magical charm potion they're after is called "ยาแฝด".

It's also correct to refer him as a "necromancer" because some of the other potions that he is able to concoct is a so called น้ำมันพราย which involves ingredients from corpses.

How can coercing someone into sex not be considered rape?

The guy is a scumbag, worthless charlatan rapist piece of crud. Nothing more, probably less.

The guy is a scumbag, worthless charlatan

Agreed!!!

but rape? no... he tricked and deceived

It's rape. He coerced her. Not tricked. Not deceived. Coerced.

Nobody but you have been using the word "rape".

Even the girls themselves didn't use this word. If it was "rape" then they obviously would have used the word.

But whatever man, who really cares whatever you think in your head.

He also "coerced" guys to screw his apprentices and recorded it.. is that a rape too ?

edit : He just got released by the police , his wife too.. they just payed 200.000 bahts , easy !