Popular Post Gunna Posted March 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2014 so how many thousands against 20mln voters, millions, who were prevented from voting and millions intimidated by armed and violent mob? Your comments really are boring 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat Haggis Posted March 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2014 He said, they said, we want, they want. The only way in which to truly gauge the voice of the people is to hold a referendum on reforms before an elections with a straight forward two boxes YES or NO And then another question "peoples council" to lead reforms with the same two boxes YES or NO.. The PDRC can then run a YES/YES campaign and allow the referendum to run impeded, if they get the majority, then exit stage left for Yingluck, and the PTP and they can run off and rethink a strategy that will allow them to challenge for when the elections are announced post reformation. There should be a 12 month cap on these reforms, and if nothing has been agreed across all parties, then the Military take control for another 6 month period, Reforms are much needed, but the time frame has to be short and swift, to allow any thoughts about the peoples council never relinquishing their power, which is no doubt what some people fear. Most Thais just want to get on with their daily lives, they should be able to do so. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulekee Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 so how many thousands against 20mln voters, millions, who were prevented from voting and millions intimidated by armed and violent mob? Err,not to show yourself up as a complete thicko.Can I suggest you do a little research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bruce Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 March seems to be stalling at Si Ayutia/Pria Thai junction. Suthep and about 1000 protesters are nearing Royal plaza, then a big gap to the main march which is very big 9over 10,000) people. There is some kind of holdup at the Junction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 So, in a country with a population of approx 66.7million, if he is lucky to get 1 million (.015%), he thinks he speaks for the "majority" of the Thai people? Gotta love Thai logic and "new math". Don't be stupid, you will NEVER get a whole country out to a march. Nut don't deny a million turning up as nothing, and also your maths are totally wrong. With your rational thinking (laughing).. Then with all this MASSIVE red shirt support for the government, where are their HUGE rallies like this? 5000 last week in Pattaya, 3000 in Ayuttaya, and they were all paid. Hardly representitive of the huge support for the Thaksin regime that people like you constantly brag about. Your last sentence cracks me up, as you automatically assume that I am a Thaksin supporter, or which I am NOT. You also exhibit the inability to denote sarcasm in the words of others, thereby revealing your lack of deduction powers. You should ask your mother if it is okay for you to post something before you do it. Have a nice day If you are " NOT" why post in that way regarding the numbers ??? You post this answer to save face because of your lack of thought. To point out the absurdity of Suthep's claims to "represent the people". Or are you able to comprehend and understand that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djjamie Posted March 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2014 So, in a country with a population of approx 66.7million, if he is lucky to get 1 million (.015%), he thinks he speaks for the "majority" of the Thai people? Gotta love Thai logic and "new math". Gotta love your maths. 1 million is not .015% of the population, but anyway…. PDRC protests 100 - Tiny little insignificant laughable protest. (got to use demonizing words. It is essential to the demagogue) 1000 - There is still only 100 insignificant protestors left. The rest are homeless people eating free food and tourists watching the concerts 10 000 - Just shows they are not popular because they haven't got more than 10 000 that the UDD had back in 2010 which was their largest ever protest numbers. 100 000 - This is a tiny protest compared to the 66.7 million population of Thailand. It only represents 0.15% of the population. Tiny laughable protest this one. 1 000 000 and above - It's not 1 million or above. Look at the photos. If 2 people can fit into 1 square meter then going by this tiny 48kb photo on the internet there are only 9000 people at the most. In which case refer back to the "10 000" comments UDD protests 100 - The voice of the people are being represented here. (Kiidnapping judges is the voice of the people apparently) 1000 - The numbers are swelling and this is a huge turnout in support of 1 principle of democracy. 10 000 - The DEMS would never be able to produce these numbers at a protest. It just shows that the PTP have the support of the majority. 100 000 - Silence. UDD were never able to produce these numbers at a protest so as yet cannot gauge a reaction. 1 000 000 - Silence. UDD were never able to produce these numbers at a protest so as yet cannot gauge a reaction. That is PTP logic right there. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fryslan boppe Posted March 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) "Thousands of Thai anti-government protesters march in Bangkok" >This is not anti-Govt.>This is anti-democracy >This is pro-coup >Those seeking to power their way into governance via non-electoral means, are not protesters....Protesters by definition are 'against something"...These people are 'for' something. That said, it is pitiful seeing them run about the streets, when very obviously should be expressing themselves at the ballot box and in parliament. Everyone to their own I guess. To see an electoral minority seek to assert itself over an electoral majority is folderol. Without playing the numbers game with these people today, it can be safely said they would be dwarfed by the electoral majority should they gather at one place, on one particular day. Edited March 29, 2014 by Fryslan boppe 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 CAPO closely monitoring mass protestsBANGKOK, 29 March 2014 (NNT) – The Center for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) is keeping a close watch on today’s mass demonstrations in Bangkok by the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC).PDRC protesters are taking to streets in mass rallies in an attempt to topple Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and her cabinet ahead of the Senatorial election which is scheduled for tomorrow, Sunday, March 30th.A number of roads and street venues in central Bangkok are occupied by PDRC demonstrators. Commuters are advised to take detours and avoid all protest sites.Meanwhile, the Center for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) is closely assessing the situation as both police and military men have been deployed in various locations to ensure safety for all sides.CAPO says everyone has the right to express themselves freely as long as their actions are in accordance with the law and constitution. CAPO is urging the protesters to respect the rights of others as well.-- NNT 2014-03-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 so how many against 20mln voters and millions, who were prevented from voting? You mean the 20 million of which around 50% voted NO, and the rest were a couple of million for assorted parties and 8 million buffalos for the PTP. The ones obstructed were not PTP strongholds and I think the 2% in some provinces that turned out in the re-runs says it all really. The real majority are speaking. Not the 8 million MINORITY!!!!!!!!! The other 40 MILLION VOTERS! Well over a million on the streets, and the rest voted with their feet. Of the 40 million in un-obstucted areas, 20 million did not even bother to vote. 10 million who did voted NO and the other 8 million who didn't get the chance to vote would be pretty much all NO votes, and not a single vote would have been PTPO anyway. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it pal. Good one YourNemisis. Unfortunately there are still people in this world who adhere to the belief that if you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it which is taken from the original quote below. "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." Joseph Goebbels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 He said, they said, we want, they want. The only way in which to truly gauge the voice of the people is to hold a referendum on reforms before an elections with a straight forward two boxes YES or NO And then another question "peoples council" to lead reforms with the same two boxes YES or NO.. The PDRC can then run a YES/YES campaign and allow the referendum to run impeded, if they get the majority, then exit stage left for Yingluck, and the PTP and they can run off and rethink a strategy that will allow them to challenge for when the elections are announced post reformation. There should be a 12 month cap on these reforms, and if nothing has been agreed across all parties, then the Military take control for another 6 month period, Reforms are much needed, but the time frame has to be short and swift, to allow any thoughts about the peoples council never relinquishing their power, which is no doubt what some people fear. Most Thais just want to get on with their daily lives, they should be able to do so. First of all government denial to all wrongs, then pressure to dissolve, then Yingluck wanted a snap election to get back in BEFORE the courts could get her there, then elections failed, then it is referendum --------Reform before anything is the only way forward. Elections/referendums are a no no at this time, as they would fail. One big priority is to get everyone to court that needs to go, get them sorted. Only after the dust settles some of your suggestions are good-workable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 March seems to be stalling at Si Ayutia/Pria Thai junction. Suthep and about 1000 protesters are nearing Royal plaza, then a big gap to the main march which is very big 9over 10,000) people. There is some kind of holdup at the Junction. Are you close by and can see all of this? Some people keep stating that Numbers are not important, oh really, why is then you use the very same numbers to state there's now a majority who want reforms before elections ?? The true numbers are from all across Thailand in either a non impeded referendum, or unimpeded election, then the numbers will be more significant, until then, it's spin, spin an more spin.. If you have a Majority, prove this by letting the elections run.. if not.. well the wheel will keep on turning and nobody will go anywhere fast and the people who's opinions do matter, as in the Thais, will still not get their say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulekee Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Go on with this nonsense. The rich influence people always can leave Thailand, the ordinary people from North to East to South can't. They will suffer as always. Yep,totally agree,time for you to pack your bags.PS do yourself a favour and don't fly Malaysian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 So, in a country with a population of approx 66.7million, if he is lucky to get 1 million (.015%), he thinks he speaks for the "majority" of the Thai people? Gotta love Thai logic and "new math". Your logic is worse than your math, how do you compare one line of marchers with turnout at 10,000s of polling stations all over the country? Even considering Suthep's math errors, the turnout is impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) So, in a country with a population of approx 66.7million, if he is lucky to get 1 million (.015%), he thinks he speaks for the "majority" of the Thai people? Gotta love Thai logic and "new math". If in a country of 66.7 Million people, spread over an area of 514.000 sq kilometer, you can encourage 1 million people to travel to a certain place for a protest, you can say they represent a majority Edited March 29, 2014 by JesseFrank 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Go on with this nonsense. The rich influence people always can leave Thailand, the ordinary people from North to East to South can't. They will suffer as always. are you talking about the Shinawatras 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post YourNemisis Posted March 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2014 March 29, 2014 12:14 pm People's Democratic Reform Committee spokesman spokesman Akanat Prompan said the last part of the procession is still at the Lumpini Park although the front has reached the Si Ayutthaya Intersection.Akanat said his mother, Srisaku Promphan, called him to say that the sixth and the last part of the procession has not yet left the park yet. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Last-part-of-procession-still-at-Lumpini-Park-Akan-30230418.html Dr Bruce is not even there, he is talking out of his ass as usual. Liar on the forum alert!!!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bulekee Posted March 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2014 March seems to be stalling at Si Ayutia/Pria Thai junction. Suthep and about 1000 protesters are nearing Royal plaza, then a big gap to the main march which is very big 9over 10,000) people. There is some kind of holdup at the Junction. Are you close by and can see all of this? Some people keep stating that Numbers are not important, oh really, why is then you use the very same numbers to state there's now a majority who want reforms before elections ?? The true numbers are from all across Thailand in either a non impeded referendum, or unimpeded election, then the numbers will be more significant, until then, it's spin, spin an more spin.. If you have a Majority, prove this by letting the elections run.. if not.. well the wheel will keep on turning and nobody will go anywhere fast and the people who's opinions do matter, as in the Thais, will still not get their say. I have told Dr. Bruce a million times not to exeggurate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bruce Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) March seems to be stalling at Si Ayutia/Pria Thai junction. Suthep and about 1000 protesters are nearing Royal plaza, then a big gap to the main march which is very big 9over 10,000) people. There is some kind of holdup at the Junction. Are you close by and can see all of this? Some people keep stating that Numbers are not important, oh really, why is then you use the very same numbers to state there's now a majority who want reforms before elections ?? The true numbers are from all across Thailand in either a non impeded referendum, or unimpeded election, then the numbers will be more significant, until then, it's spin, spin an more spin.. If you have a Majority, prove this by letting the elections run.. if not.. well the wheel will keep on turning and nobody will go anywhere fast and the people who's opinions do matter, as in the Thais, will still not get their say. Blockage has cleared now, it was another march joining from Si Ayuthia and they had a discussion on who was to go first. The march is moving very quickly now to catch up. Edited March 29, 2014 by Dr Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENILE Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 so how many against 20mln voters and millions, who were prevented from voting? You mean the 20 million of which around 50% voted NO, and the rest were a couple of million for assorted parties and 8 million buffalos for the PTP. The ones obstructed were not PTP strongholds and I think the 2% in some provinces that turned out in the re-runs says it all really. The real majority are speaking. Not the 8 million MINORITY!!!!!!!!! The other 40 MILLION VOTERS! Well over a million on the streets, and the rest voted with their feet. Of the 40 million in un-obstucted areas, 20 million did not even bother to vote. 10 million who did voted NO and the other 8 million who didn't get the chance to vote would be pretty much all NO votes, and not a single vote would have been PTPO anyway. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it pal. Wow With numbers like that the PDRC must be so excited by the chance of a new election, they are bound to win. Well said....but you should understand, the PDRC are not a political party....plus they do not want elections until reform.... In last election only 1/3 of eligible voters choose one of the 53 political parties. 2/3, the majority did not vote, were vote-no ballots or invalid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 so how many thousands against 20mln voters, millions, who were prevented from voting and millions intimidated by armed and violent mob? If you want to quote stupid and irrelevant figures then you should refer to the majority of voters that DIDN'T vote for Yingluck Please give us a link to where the counters say that the PTP got the highest votes than they ever did in the Feb 2 election I though the final figures where never released 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 so how many against 20mln voters and millions, who were prevented from voting? You mean the 20 million of which around 50% voted NO, and the rest were a couple of million for assorted parties and 8 million buffalos for the PTP. The ones obstructed were not PTP strongholds and I think the 2% in some provinces that turned out in the re-runs says it all really. The real majority are speaking. Not the 8 million MINORITY!!!!!!!!! The other 40 MILLION VOTERS! Well over a million on the streets, and the rest voted with their feet. Of the 40 million in un-obstucted areas, 20 million did not even bother to vote. 10 million who did voted NO and the other 8 million who didn't get the chance to vote would be pretty much all NO votes, and not a single vote would have been PTPO anyway. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it pal. and your 4th post after registration. The rest posts of the posts are also on politics. hahahahahaha, are you worried someone is doing the same thing you and the rest of the red appologists have done, looks like another big dummy spit coming up for the reds, do as we say not as we do........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Don't be stupid, you will NEVER get a whole country out to a march. Nut don't deny a million turning up as nothing, and also your maths are totally wrong. With your rational thinking (laughing).. Then with all this MASSIVE red shirt support for the government, where are their HUGE rallies like this? 5000 last week in Pattaya, 3000 in Ayuttaya, and they were all paid. Hardly representitive of the huge support for the Thaksin regime that people like you constantly brag about. Your last sentence cracks me up, as you automatically assume that I am a Thaksin supporter, or which I am NOT. You also exhibit the inability to denote sarcasm in the words of others, thereby revealing your lack of deduction powers. You should ask your mother if it is okay for you to post something before you do it. Have a nice day If you are " NOT" why post in that way regarding the numbers ??? You post this answer to save face because of your lack of thought. To point out the absurdity of Suthep's claims to "represent the people". Or are you able to comprehend and understand that? Well he certainly has pis#ed on somebody's cornflakes. That I understand fully. Good government do not get the people Pi##ing on their cornflakes --because they would create happiness. Get that ??? Follow the money---follow the courts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spalpeen Posted March 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2014 This news just in.........66.5 million people show their support for democracy and the elected government by boycotting Suthep's silly little parade! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourNemisis Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 March seems to be stalling at Si Ayutia/Pria Thai junction. Suthep and about 1000 protesters are nearing Royal plaza, then a big gap to the main march which is very big 9over 10,000) people. There is some kind of holdup at the Junction. Are you close by and can see all of this? Some people keep stating that Numbers are not important, oh really, why is then you use the very same numbers to state there's now a majority who want reforms before elections ?? The true numbers are from all across Thailand in either a non impeded referendum, or unimpeded election, then the numbers will be more significant, until then, it's spin, spin an more spin.. If you have a Majority, prove this by letting the elections run.. if not.. well the wheel will keep on turning and nobody will go anywhere fast and the people who's opinions do matter, as in the Thais, will still not get their say. Blockage has cleared now, it was another march joining from Si Ayuthia and they had a discussion on who was to go firt. The march is moving very quickly now to catch up. Rubbish.... as from 12.14 there were stll 2 sections yet to start marching. Anyone else in the Lumpini area that can tell us who is lying here??? Anyway, let's wait till next Saturday to see what the PRO GOVERNMENT can reply with. Oh I forgot, the UDD would first 'monitor' this rally and then make their decision. Meaning, they will call it off because the support for the government can no way beat the support for the anti-government movement. Not even 10% of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 maybe Thai news will have photos from above? bluesky has lots of live images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 so how many against 20mln voters and millions, who were prevented from voting? You mean the 20 million of which around 50% voted NO, and the rest were a couple of million for assorted parties and 8 million buffalos for the PTP. The ones obstructed were not PTP strongholds and I think the 2% in some provinces that turned out in the re-runs says it all really. The real majority are speaking. Not the 8 million MINORITY!!!!!!!!! The other 40 MILLION VOTERS! Well over a million on the streets, and the rest voted with their feet. Of the 40 million in un-obstucted areas, 20 million did not even bother to vote. 10 million who did voted NO and the other 8 million who didn't get the chance to vote would be pretty much all NO votes, and not a single vote would have been PTPO anyway. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it pal. and your 4th post after registration. The rest posts of the posts are also on politics. He got you! Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I guess we'll have to see how many the redshirts can muster in the big rally they've got planned before we can gauge the true levels of support. Always assuming they don't cancel it after this PDRD showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bruce Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 You mean the 20 million of which around 50% voted NO, and the rest were a couple of million for assorted parties and 8 million buffalos for the PTP. The ones obstructed were not PTP strongholds and I think the 2% in some provinces that turned out in the re-runs says it all really. The real majority are speaking. Not the 8 million MINORITY!!!!!!!!! The other 40 MILLION VOTERS! Well over a million on the streets, and the rest voted with their feet. Of the 40 million in un-obstucted areas, 20 million did not even bother to vote. 10 million who did voted NO and the other 8 million who didn't get the chance to vote would be pretty much all NO votes, and not a single vote would have been PTPO anyway. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it pal. Wow With numbers like that the PDRC must be so excited by the chance of a new election, they are bound to win. Well said....but you should understand, the PDRC are not a political party....plus they do not want elections until reform.... In last election only 1/3 of eligible voters choose one of the 53 political parties. 2/3, the majority did not vote, were vote-no ballots or invalid. Was that the same election that showed a majority of people who did vote, voted for the PTP? Was that the same election that was disrupted by the Anti-Democrat forces. Was that the same election that has now been made void because it was not held on the same day throughout Thailand when every other election in the last 20 years has not been held on the same day throughout Thailand? edited to remove middle quote as over limit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourNemisis Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 If you go on bluesky right now it is showing Lumpini park and the next lot waiting to march. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MMarlow Posted March 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2014 So, in a country with a population of approx 66.7million, if he is lucky to get 1 million (.015%), he thinks he speaks for the "majority" of the Thai people? Gotta love Thai logic and "new math". If in a country of 66.7 Million people, spread over an area of 514.000 sq kilometer, you can encourage 1 million people to travel to a certain place for a protest, you can say they represent a majority No you can't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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