webfact Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 CAPO makes statement on political situationBANGKOK, 18 April 2014 (NNT) - The Center for Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) has issued a statement on its requests and urged all sides to resolve the political conflicts together.Director-General of the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) Tharit Pengdit on Thursday said the CAPO was deeply concerned about the ongoing political standoff, thereby making seven requests as follows.1. The CAPO calls on the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) to treat Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra in the rice subsidy case fairly, without discrimination and in line with the laws.2. The Constitution Court should consider and rule on the case of the transfer of National Security Council chief Thawin Pleansri fairly. Its verdict should not exceed what the charter allows.3. The Cabinet should ensure that there will be no political vacuum.4. The Election Commission should speedily organize a new general election so that there is a new government to run the country.5. Both pro- and anti-government protest groups should call off their demonstrations to avoid confrontation and violence.6. High-ranking government officials should perform their duties with caution, provide normal service to the general public and avoid taking part in any activities in support of the protest groups who breach the laws.7. The CAPO calls on the people not to join in protests by any groups in order to avoid dangers caused by confrontation. -- NNT 2014-04-18 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tezzainoz Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Please tell me are CAPO a nuteral organization or part of PTP Standing back and looking at the above, it sounds like PTP are finished and CAPO is begging the people to to please, please not kick them out Please find it in your hearts to give us another chance we know we have done wrong and if you give us a chance next time we will be more careful how we take money Now where else have I heard this same plea's for forgivness Edited April 17, 2014 by tezzainoz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post issanaus Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 CAPO has made what is clearly a political statement that demonstrates that its role and goals are political - as such funding should be stoped as the government is in a caretaker mode and using public funds to finance election activates is not lawful. CAPO has also clearly stated that they have authority and power above the NACC and CC by trying to direct them in what they do and how they should do it - that is contempt of the Charter and the courts. All the statement does is confirm what most already knew about the organisation and membership - the law is only a tool for them to use and abuse for political goals 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 POLITICSCAPO warning to court and NACCThe Nation Says Cabinet should seek royal judgement if govt is removedBANGKOK: -- In a rare and potentially controversial move, the government's Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order yesterday asked the Constitutional Court and the National Anti-Corruption Commission not to exceed their authority in cases against Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra.CAPO also expressed concern that there could be bias and "double standards" against the prime minister in those cases, warning that such a practice could lead to violence.The NACC is pursuing a case in which the prime minister is accused of dereliction of duty in connection with the loss-making and corruption-plagued rice price-pledging scheme.The Constitutional Court is hearing a case in which the prime minister is accused of misconduct for removing National Security Council secretary-general Thawil Pliensri.In its "statement number 1", CAPO said the court had no authority to oust the Cabinet if it ruled against the prime minister in the case of the unlawful transfer of the NSC chief.Tarit Pengdith, CAPO secretary and Department of Special Investigations director-general, read the statement and said it was issued after a CAPO meeting chaired by Labour Minister and CAPO chief Chalerm Yoobamrung.Tarit said the Constitution allowed the court to oust only the prime minister if it ruled that her order to remove Thawil was unconstitutional.He said the court had no authority to oust the Cabinet because Article 181 of the Constitution would require the Cabinet to become the caretaker government if the prime minister were disqualified.He said if the court removed the Cabinet, the government should invoke Article 7 of the Constitution and ask His Majesty the King whether it should continue running the country as the caretaker administration.The Supreme Administrative Court recently ruled that Thawil's removal was unlawful.CAPO urged the Election Commission to hold a new general election as soon as possible, after the February 2 election was voided by the Constitutional Court.The court said the election was not organised on the same day for the entire country as required by the Constitution.CAPO also urged the anti-government People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) and the pro-government United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) not to hold mass rallies to prevent possible clashes between rival supporters.It called on prospective participants of the rallies to also have a rethink.Last week, CAPO issued a statement critical of senior bureaucrats who welcomed leaders of the PDRC to their ministries.The centre was set up last November to enforce the Internal Security Act after the anti-government rally gained ground following the government-backed bill for blanket amnesty passed the House of Representatives.It was later replaced by the Centre for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO) when a state of emergency was imposed in Bangkok and some adjacent provinces. CAPO took over from the CMPO last month after the state of emergency was lifted.Constitutional Court secretary-general Chaowana Traimas responded by saying the court had been fair to all parties involved throughout the 16 years of its existence.He said the court strictly referred to the law and had no policy of taking into consideration possible political consequences when dealing with cases.The Democrat Party will consider legal action against CAPO for sedition for what it regards as denying the authority of the Constitutional Court and the NACC, party spokesman Chavanond Intarakomalyasut said.He also said it was improper for CAPO to suggest that the Cabinet seek a royal judgement on its status should Yingluck need to step down.Yingluck yesterday requested a postponement of her testimony over her alleged violation of the constitution over Thawil's transfer.Constitutional Court spokesman Pimol Thammapitakpong said Yingluck's lawyer submitted a petition with the court requesting her defence statement be postponed 15 days from April 18 - the deadline for her to submit her defence.In requesting the delay, Yingluck said she needed more time to prepare documentation as she had to make copies of Supreme Administrative Court documents and the court was closed for the long Songkran holiday.UDD leaders have announced the cancellation of a mass rally on Aksa Road scheduled for today, saying they wanted to wait on further political developments. They told their red-shirt supporters to be prepared for the next call to rally.-- The Nation 2014-04-18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 Tarit says high ranking government officials should perform their duties with caution etc. yet here he is making a clear political statement and telling the NACC and the Constitutional Court what they should do. Nothing cautious in that statement. Tatit should stick to what he knows best, being head of a branch of the Keystone Cops. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaxLee Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 CAPO makes statement on political situation No need for 7 statements, just make it ONE simple, because every kindergarten kid with common sense knows what it means: "Let Yingluck go and the Election-Collection-votebuying-terror continue, or suffer a slow backstabbing death by our red shirt mercenaries via mob or assissination" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issanaus Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 CAPO has assert authority over all government departments and claimed the right to dictate to judiciary - I a looking for a word - where is FB when you need him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoopyDoo Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 All this is.... is just the government using CAPO to continually stir up red shirt tension and stoke their anger in a cynical move to incite a huge backlash when things come to a head. As for warning the NACC and CC not to over-step their authority in ruling against YL and the cabinet. They need to be reminded that the authority of these agencies is way higher than the PM and the cabinet. When these rulings come out and everything changes politically in LOS.... CAPO had better watch their backs, because they will be in line for their own day of retribution from the courts. What they should really be afraid of.... Is the backlash from the majority that want this government gone if these agencies if fact somehow manage to rule in favour of YL and the cabinet.... That really would stir up the hornets nest. Be careful what you wish for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Would these statements not be CAPO exceeding their authority ? Tell me again what CAPO stands for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MGP Posted April 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2014 CAPO getting closer to GESTAPO day by day 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I find it hard to believe that these people are adults In this latest outburst of disguised threats and rhetoric ......honestly The EC should withdraw funding from these idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I'm sure this will spurn more legal cases - especially Chalerm Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtgruen Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I am waiting for the rats to leave the sinking ship, but I guess that some rats just aren't that smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post harkish Posted April 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2014 Funny to read these comments - gestapo, terror, abuse. Common on folks, this is all part of the political theater, or rather the chess game that is Thai politics. There is no fair process, no rules, just what you can get away with and how it impacts the next situation. Here, Thaksin and his minions have tried to block their opponents from throwing his team out, even if they do remove the PM. Sticking to the colors (and for those of you who will jump in and say 'the yellows are not the PDRC are not the PAD", ok, fine, go back to Zardoz and play in your reality), the reds are setting the stage for dragging the royal institution into the game. So when the CC or NACC (dominated by yellows) rule against Yingluck, they will also move to kick out the cabinet. Thaksin / reds will then appeal to the royal institution - and either win out or drive a wedge further between it and the red masses. Given that the yellows have determined they must get rid of Thaksin and Co, then they will almost certainly move against the cabinet as well, so this is just a strategic move in a long term game, attempting to create more division between Bangkok yellow elites and red poor folk. Simplistic but largely the case. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moonao Posted April 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2014 Post 2006 coup and after the changes to the Constitution by the military, certain organizations (NACC, judiciary, EC and their related "selection committees") have been groomed by the military (and their allies) and infiltrated by a large number of corrupt officials whos job is not to serve the electorate or the law, but to serve their elite masters. In effect they have been groomed to perform a judicial coup if ordered, they have been ordered, and that is exactly the process going on now against the caretaker government. Its always amusing to watch posters on here claim they know anything about democracy when they openly support judicial coups and blatantly corrupt and bias officials from these completely unbalanced "checks and balances" organizations like the NACC and EC. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Did "Charmer" chair the meeting before or after lunch???? B/c he does get a little muddled & aggressive after a goood slong lunsch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 CAPO getting closer to GESTAPO day by day Could do with less Nazi/North Korea Hyperbole comparisons on political topics. Either people are clueless or really would just post anything to get a point across. The CAPO statement is more amusing than alarming, I doubt anyone takes it even halfway seriously. Pots, kettles, how do you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Would these statements not be CAPO exceeding their authority ? Tell me again what CAPO stands for. Cancerous And Partisan Organisation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post srsv1238 Posted April 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2014 CAPO has made what is clearly a political statement that demonstrates that its role and goals are political - as such funding should be stoped as the government is in a caretaker mode and using public funds to finance election activates is not lawful. CAPO has also clearly stated that they have authority and power above the NACC and CC by trying to direct them in what they do and how they should do it - that is contempt of the Charter and the courts. All the statement does is confirm what most already knew about the organisation and membership - the law is only a tool for them to use and abuse for political goals CAPO did not say they have authority over the NCC or CC. They merely suggest that they act within the confines of their authority and treat the PM fairly. Was that too much to request? (Probably) Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGP Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Funny to read these comments - gestapo, terror, abuse. Common on folks, this is all part of the political theater, or rather the chess game that is Thai politics. There is no fair process, no rules, just what you can get away with and how it impacts the next situation. Here, Thaksin and his minions have tried to block their opponents from throwing his team out, even if they do remove the PM. Sticking to the colors (and for those of you who will jump in and say 'the yellows are not the PDRC are not the PAD", ok, fine, go back to Zardoz and play in your reality), the reds are setting the stage for dragging the royal institution into the game. So when the CC or NACC (dominated by yellows) rule against Yingluck, they will also move to kick out the cabinet. Thaksin / reds will then appeal to the royal institution - and either win out or drive a wedge further between it and the red masses. Given that the yellows have determined they must get rid of Thaksin and Co, then they will almost certainly move against the cabinet as well, so this is just a strategic move in a long term game, attempting to create more division between Bangkok yellow elites and red poor folk. Simplistic but largely the case. Wow! We didn’t hear that old cliché of “Bangkok Elite Vs Red poor Folk” for a long time. The latest fashion trend is to use the mantras “Judicial Coup” or ‘Respect my Vote”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHONSTEVE Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Would these statements not be CAPO exceeding their authority ? Tell me again what CAPO stands for. Just what I was thinking - how on earth does pathetic pleas for leniency on Yingluck and her delinquents fit in with their remit of maintaining peace and order?? The DSI is another example of blatant bias as it hasn't gone after a single UDD/red shirt since the troubles began (even though the bombs and killings are exclusively down to their actions) and they have tried to load up the trains with PDRC/yellow supporters and pin them with ridiculous trumped up charges that the courts have already stated are not crimes as the protests are peaceful. Both of these phony and illegitimate organisations should be dismantled and they should be charged with persecution and exceeding their authority in acting as enforcers for 'we all know who'!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsv1238 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Funny to read these comments - gestapo, terror, abuse. Common on folks, this is all part of the political theater, or rather the chess game that is Thai politics. There is no fair process, no rules, just what you can get away with and how it impacts the next situation. Here, Thaksin and his minions have tried to block their opponents from throwing his team out, even if they do remove the PM. Sticking to the colors (and for those of you who will jump in and say 'the yellows are not the PDRC are not the PAD", ok, fine, go back to Zardoz and play in your reality), the reds are setting the stage for dragging the royal institution into the game. So when the CC or NACC (dominated by yellows) rule against Yingluck, they will also move to kick out the cabinet. Thaksin / reds will then appeal to the royal institution - and either win out or drive a wedge further between it and the red masses. Given that the yellows have determined they must get rid of Thaksin and Co, then they will almost certainly move against the cabinet as well, so this is just a strategic move in a long term game, attempting to create more division between Bangkok yellow elites and red poor folk. Simplistic but largely the case. Wow! We didn’t hear that old cliché of “Bangkok Elite Vs Red poor Folk” for a long time. The latest fashion trend is to use the mantras “Judicial Coup” or ‘Respect my Vote”. Someone has a problem with respecting the right of people to vote. How utterly Elitists. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsv1238 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Would these statements not be CAPO exceeding their authority ? Tell me again what CAPO stands for. Just what I was thinking - how on earth does pathetic pleas for leniency on Yingluck and her delinquents fit in with their remit of maintaining peace and order?? The DSI is another example of blatant bias as it hasn't gone after a single UDD/red shirt since the troubles began (even though the bombs and killings are exclusively down to their actions) and they have tried to load up the trains with PDRC/yellow supporters and pin them with ridiculous trumped up charges that the courts have already stated are not crimes as the protests are peaceful. Both of these phony and illegitimate organisations should be dismantled and they should be charged with persecution and exceeding their authority in acting as enforcers for 'we all know who'!! The best way to maintain peace and order is to show people that the system is fair and has not been politicized. I hate to see what happens when the people rise up and storm the Bastille. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Edited April 18, 2014 by srsv1238 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkish Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Funny to read these comments - gestapo, terror, abuse. Common on folks, this is all part of the political theater, or rather the chess game that is Thai politics. There is no fair process, no rules, just what you can get away with and how it impacts the next situation. Here, Thaksin and his minions have tried to block their opponents from throwing his team out, even if they do remove the PM. Sticking to the colors (and for those of you who will jump in and say 'the yellows are not the PDRC are not the PAD", ok, fine, go back to Zardoz and play in your reality), the reds are setting the stage for dragging the royal institution into the game. So when the CC or NACC (dominated by yellows) rule against Yingluck, they will also move to kick out the cabinet. Thaksin / reds will then appeal to the royal institution - and either win out or drive a wedge further between it and the red masses. Given that the yellows have determined they must get rid of Thaksin and Co, then they will almost certainly move against the cabinet as well, so this is just a strategic move in a long term game, attempting to create more division between Bangkok yellow elites and red poor folk. Simplistic but largely the case. Wow! We didn’t hear that old cliché of “Bangkok Elite Vs Red poor Folk” for a long time. The latest fashion trend is to use the mantras “Judicial Coup” or ‘Respect my Vote”. Simplistic, as I said, but pretty much the case. Sure, there are plenty of upcountry folk against the latest version of Thaksin's forces. Call them upcountry yellows. And there are plenty of Bangkok wealthy, or middle class, who are supporters of the red tide, majority rule, or whatever you want to call it. I loosely call them members of the reds. Behind both sides are elites battling over spoils. If that leads to a 'wow' - well, like I said, some people operate in a different reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGP Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Funny to read these comments - gestapo, terror, abuse. Common on folks, this is all part of the political theater, or rather the chess game that is Thai politics. There is no fair process, no rules, just what you can get away with and how it impacts the next situation. Here, Thaksin and his minions have tried to block their opponents from throwing his team out, even if they do remove the PM. Sticking to the colors (and for those of you who will jump in and say 'the yellows are not the PDRC are not the PAD", ok, fine, go back to Zardoz and play in your reality), the reds are setting the stage for dragging the royal institution into the game. So when the CC or NACC (dominated by yellows) rule against Yingluck, they will also move to kick out the cabinet. Thaksin / reds will then appeal to the royal institution - and either win out or drive a wedge further between it and the red masses. Given that the yellows have determined they must get rid of Thaksin and Co, then they will almost certainly move against the cabinet as well, so this is just a strategic move in a long term game, attempting to create more division between Bangkok yellow elites and red poor folk. Simplistic but largely the case. Wow! We didn’t hear that old cliché of “Bangkok Elite Vs Red poor Folk” for a long time. The latest fashion trend is to use the mantras “Judicial Coup” or ‘Respect my Vote”. Someone has a problem with respecting the right of people to vote. How utterly Elitists. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand If giving priority to the fight against corruption, abuse of power, and disrespect of law is considered “elitist”, I must say that I am very proud of being called that. Therefore, those who wish immunity and forgiveness for those who are democratically elected, even if they are lawless and rotten in corruption, should be called the antonyms of elite: “bad”, “inferior”, “poor”, “second-rate”, “ordinary”, “worst”… Edited April 18, 2014 by MGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinooz Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Crazy isn't it , on one hand we have got Charlerm ordering High Govt Officials not to approach,invite or Listen to any anti Govt views or else face the sack once they have Absolute Power again and yet even Higher Govt officials are off to listen to,and take orders from a convicted criminal in Hong Kong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsv1238 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Funny to read these comments - gestapo, terror, abuse. Common on folks, this is all part of the political theater, or rather the chess game that is Thai politics. There is no fair process, no rules, just what you can get away with and how it impacts the next situation. Here, Thaksin and his minions have tried to block their opponents from throwing his team out, even if they do remove the PM. Sticking to the colors (and for those of you who will jump in and say 'the yellows are not the PDRC are not the PAD", ok, fine, go back to Zardoz and play in your reality), the reds are setting the stage for dragging the royal institution into the game. So when the CC or NACC (dominated by yellows) rule against Yingluck, they will also move to kick out the cabinet. Thaksin / reds will then appeal to the royal institution - and either win out or drive a wedge further between it and the red masses. Given that the yellows have determined they must get rid of Thaksin and Co, then they will almost certainly move against the cabinet as well, so this is just a strategic move in a long term game, attempting to create more division between Bangkok yellow elites and red poor folk. Simplistic but largely the case. Wow! We didn’t hear that old cliché of “Bangkok Elite Vs Red poor Folk” for a long time. The latest fashion trend is to use the mantras “Judicial Coup” or ‘Respect my Vote”. Someone has a problem with respecting the right of people to vote. How utterly Elitists.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand If giving priority to the fight against corruption, abuse of power, and disrespect of law is considered “elitist”, I must say that I am very proud of being called that. Therefore, those who wish immunity and forgiveness for those who are democratically elected, even if they are lawless and rotten in corruption, should be called the antonyms of elite: “bad”, “inferior”, “poor”, “second-rate”, “ordinary”, “worst”… Hence, you and your superior ilk must have the divine right to rule over others irregardless of what they believe. Their opinions do not matter. Only yours. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antimedia Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 CAPO has made what is clearly a political statement that demonstrates that its role and goals are political - as such funding should be stoped as the government is in a caretaker mode and using public funds to finance election activates is not lawful. CAPO has also clearly stated that they have authority and power above the NACC and CC by trying to direct them in what they do and how they should do it - that is contempt of the Charter and the courts. All the statement does is confirm what most already knew about the organisation and membership - the law is only a tool for them to use and abuse for political goals CAPO did not say they have authority over the NCC or CC. They merely suggest that they act within the confines of their authority and treat the PM fairly. Was that too much to request? (Probably) Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand The problem being is that fairly to them means exonerating her of all these charges and anything else she does illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHONSTEVE Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Would these statements not be CAPO exceeding their authority ? Tell me again what CAPO stands for. Just what I was thinking - how on earth does pathetic pleas for leniency on Yingluck and her delinquents fit in with their remit of maintaining peace and order?? The DSI is another example of blatant bias as it hasn't gone after a single UDD/red shirt since the troubles began (even though the bombs and killings are exclusively down to their actions) and they have tried to load up the trains with PDRC/yellow supporters and pin them with ridiculous trumped up charges that the courts have already stated are not crimes as the protests are peaceful. Both of these phony and illegitimate organisations should be dismantled and they should be charged with persecution and exceeding their authority in acting as enforcers for 'we all know who'!! The best way to maintain peace and order is to show people that the system is fair and has not been politicized. I hate to see what happens when the people rise up and storm the Bastille.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand They should put them down for fighting an unjustified battle!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Seems to me the those who have cabinet posts are willing to have Yingluck thrown out but desperately want to keep their positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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