Used Big Bike Shop

[mania]

This is my thought as well, I'm waiting for a few more months to see if Honda decides to bring in US spec versions for the 2015 models, either that or RedBaron get a load more US spec CBR's in.

If you guys are waiting on 2015 to look at Liter bikes have a look at the possible? 200 bhp R1 for 2015

http://issuu.com/benjaminlindley/docs/pb_march_month_in_bikes

Edited April 21, 2014 by mania

[RubberSideDown]

That R1 looks very cool, but it sure won't be 620K in LOS.

[mania]

That R1 looks very cool, but it sure won't be 620K in LOS.

Heh very true RSD

But if they can hold it to even their old LOS price of 799k

I guess it would be a deal for some?

Thought of you recently on my US trip where I saw a showroom with many BMW HP4's

No shortage of bikes there at good prices

Edited April 21, 2014 by mania

[SumetCycle]

http://www.moto-works.jp/products/power_converters.html

This is what I used on mine. I also put in full size velocity stacks and an Akrapovic slip on. Big Ban Modify installed everything, but I lost the speedo display and the engine warning light was stuck on. It had something to do with the fueling map. Big Wing was able to get it sorted though. While it was derestricted, the dyno graph wasn't very smooth. I was told by Big Wing that I had lost the warranty on my engine as well. It can be done, but i wouldn't recommend it.

[RubberSideDown]

That R1 looks very cool, but it sure won't be 620K in LOS.

Heh very true RSD

But if they can hold it to even their old LOS price of 799k

I guess it would be a deal for some?

Thought of you recently on my US trip where I saw a showroom with many BMW HP4's

No shortage of bikes there at good prices

I have to make my final call by this week on the HP4- I've been waffling and wavering for months- at this point I would probably have to take a Standard and upgrade it to a Comp as I let the last one go, but I told them to keep my deposit until the end of April...

That R1 is very interesting, but who knows what the final product will be- it could be different from the proposed specs- it will be awesome if it's close, though.

[ll2]

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http://www.moto-works.jp/products/power_converters.html

This is what I used on mine. I also put in full size velocity stacks and an Akrapovic slip on. Big Ban Modify installed everything, but I lost the speedo display and the engine warning light was stuck on. It had something to do with the fueling map. Big Wing was able to get it sorted though. While it was derestricted, the dyno graph wasn't very smooth. I was told by Big Wing that I had lost the warranty on my engine as well. It can be done, but i wouldn't recommend it.

Brian, remember your case.

But is it the same shop they are referring? This time they were talking with full confidence like no problems for derestricting it.

That R1 looks very cool, but it sure won't be 620K in LOS.

Heh very true RSD

But if they can hold it to even their old LOS price of 799k
I guess it would be a deal for some?

Thought of you recently on my US trip where I saw a showroom with many BMW HP4's
No shortage of bikes there at good prices

I have to make my final call by this week on the HP4- I've been waffling and wavering for months- at this point I would probably have to take a Standard and upgrade it to a Comp as I let the last one go, but I told them to keep my deposit until the end of April...

That R1 is very interesting, but who knows what the final product will be- it could be different from the proposed specs- it will be awesome if it's close, though.

Right decision rubber. You save 500 k thb and still get a great bike and upgrade it slowly! I reckon 'mia' is also happy on that

But wait until the end of this year from the other makers. There might be surprises from Yamaha and Honda for 2015! Still life is also short though!

Edited April 21, 2014 by ll2

[ll2]

Just talked with the manager of bigwing bkk service.

He stated that derestricting honda cbr1000r is only 20 k thb! Now which includes opening the throttle bodies, air intake, flashing stock ecu and a new ecu - i guess piggyback - from japan. They are doing it in a shop close to bigwing bkk.

Of course you also need a pipe they say but it costs 10 k for a custom one.

So a total of 30 k thb you can get cbr1000rr derestricted.

Moreover, only the warranty of the engine will void if you touch throttle bodies and air intake ports but other parts of the bike will be covered with warranty so there is no full void.

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Did they mention which shop is doing the de-restriction? I live about a km from BigWing so I'd be interested to know as it might be shops I've used before...

Might pop in on the way home, 30k 'all in' is pretty reasonable...

I will ask them next time about that shop. Actually service manager there does not recommend derestricting it. Actually I started the conversation like how to make the bike normal and he said bike is already very normal and made in Japan this way. Enough powerful why change it? He is also right in some ways.

Edited April 21, 2014 by ll2

[speedtripler]

Just talked with the manager of bigwing bkk service.

He stated that derestricting honda cbr1000r is only 20 k thb! Now which includes opening the throttle bodies, air intake, flashing stock ecu and a new ecu - i guess piggyback - from japan. They are doing it in a shop close to bigwing bkk.

Of course you also need a pipe they say but it costs 10 k for a custom one.

So a total of 30 k thb you can get cbr1000rr derestricted.

Moreover, only the warranty of the engine will void if you touch throttle bodies and air intake ports but other parts of the bike will be covered with warranty so there is no full void.

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Did they mention which shop is doing the de-restriction? I live about a km from BigWing so I'd be interested to know as it might be shops I've used before...

Might pop in on the way home, 30k 'all in' is pretty reasonable...

I will ask them next time about that shop. Actually service manager there does not recommend derestricting it. Actually I started the conversation like how to make the bike normal and he said bike is already very normal and made in Japan this way. Enough powerful why change it? He is also right in some ways.

personally i think 30k is good price for full power version

nobody needs near 200 hp but i dont like the idea of riding

a detuned/restricted anything ..........

[RubberSideDown]

SumetCycle did make a good point of making sure the derestriction process leaves you with what is basically a bike that runs like a US or Euro-spec model that came from the factory- I'd want to see some dyno charts and talk to a couple people that own bikes that have been derestricted and see if they're happy.

If it's just an ECU reflash (like with the ZX-10R) it's no big deal, but when it comes to hardware changes, there can easily be complications, from small things like the bike throwing a code of something major like fueling issues.

One good thing is that a lot of CBR1000RRs are going to be sold at the new price, and the mechanics will get quite a bit of practice setting them up.

[mania]

Funny that the restricted 1000 is just a bit higher than a Honda 600RR

116 vs 105 I think?

In which case they should have just brought the 600rr to LOS instead

A very nice bike in its own right

[RubberSideDown]

I don't think they'd sell too many CBR-600RRs as the price would be about 600K, especially with the new 650 out for half that price. The extra performance probably wouldn't entice that many people to pony up the extra cash- a 1000cc bike at a low price point has more appeal and a better position in the LOS market (even in restricted form), IMHO.

No argument it's a great bike, though.

[mania]

I don't think they'd sell too many CBR-600RRs as the price would be about 600K, especially with the new 650 out for half that price. The extra performance probably wouldn't entice that many people to pony up the extra cash- a 1000cc bike at a low price point has more appeal and a better position in the LOS market (even in restricted form), IMHO.

No argument it's a great bike, though.

Your probably right as many are fixated on the 1000 the 600 may not do well & yes price

would probably be dang near the liter bike

On a side note with the BMW HP4 the Aprilia RSV4 (WSBK of Marco Melandri) is looking nice

Edited April 22, 2014 by mania

[RubberSideDown]

The Aprilia RSV4 Factory is a great bike, no doubt, and has won several superbike comparisons, but the testers always have the same complaint of it being neutered in the mid-range through the factory settings to improve the MPG numbers (and who cares about mileage with a bike like that)- on a track it reigns, but on the street not quite as much.

The Tuono, though, is a bike I'd be interested in if it were available (with manufacturer support) in LOS- I have a couple friends in the States who ride them, and they rave about the performance combined with a very livable riding position.

Edited April 22, 2014 by RubberSideDown

[Hili]

my next bike will be the RSV4 for sure, just quite hard to get here and no customer supprt

Edited April 22, 2014 by Hili

[H1w4yR1da]

Ask Red Baron to order one for you

Suzuki GSX-R1000 L3 182 hp in-line 4 Superbike

[ll2]

Hope honda releases new designed honda cbr1000rr with traction control all electronic goodies during 2015. You can make it honda.

Still if new cbr1000rr arrives here, i believe it will be more expensive than 630 k thb.

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[Som wat]

I would never buy anything mechanical used in this country.

Too many hack mechanics putting wood screws where bolts should go.

I have had so many things go wrong even at reputable dealers like the Pirelli dealer on OnNut who didn't tighten an axle slider or Kawasaki Pattaya who stripped a frame nut.

You are putting your life at risk anytime someone works on your bike.

If you aren't mechanical and check other people's work I would stick to new so at least everything is bolted up to factory torque specs.

Well you think that would be the case.

Cases of Hondas arriving with loose nuts and bolts, one guy had one in his fairing that had fallen out. People who checked there's with a torque wrench said that none of them were tightened correctly.

There was a global recall too over the oil sump, forget the details but wasn't that the bolt was put in wrong.

Made in Thailand.

[speedtripler]

I would never buy anything mechanical used in this country.

Too many hack mechanics putting wood screws where bolts should go.

I have had so many things go wrong even at reputable dealers like the Pirelli dealer on OnNut who didn't tighten an axle slider or Kawasaki Pattaya who stripped a frame nut.

You are putting your life at risk anytime someone works on your bike.

If you aren't mechanical and check other people's work I would stick to new so at least everything is bolted up to factory torque specs.

Well you think that would be the case.

Cases of Hondas arriving with loose nuts and bolts, one guy had one in his fairing that had fallen out. People who checked there's with a torque wrench said that none of them were tightened correctly.

There was a global recall too over the oil sump, forget the details but wasn't that the bolt was put in wrong.

Made in Thailand.

EVEN if u do have a little mechanical knowhow -you cant be expected to have all the tools to be able to check every nut and bolt is torqued

correctly never mind the service manuals to get at bolts that are in really hard areas to reach or the specialist tools sometimes required

you can imagine it on an old 20 year old scrapper thats been serviced in every som tam shop in the district by people with no training

but bikes coming out of big wing and real motorsports or rama 9 with sub-standard or even dangerous work ,loose bolts ,things forgotten

to be done,checked etc .....

its a complete disaster that you can be sure of your bike is put together correctly unless youre a mechanic with full set of tools.........

Edited April 22, 2014 by speedtripler

[JonnyF]

I would never buy anything mechanical used in this country.

Too many hack mechanics putting wood screws where bolts should go.

I have had so many things go wrong even at reputable dealers like the Pirelli dealer on OnNut who didn't tighten an axle slider or Kawasaki Pattaya who stripped a frame nut.

You are putting your life at risk anytime someone works on your bike.

If you aren't mechanical and check other people's work I would stick to new so at least everything is bolted up to factory torque specs.

Well you think that would be the case.

Cases of Hondas arriving with loose nuts and bolts, one guy had one in his fairing that had fallen out. People who checked there's with a torque wrench said that none of them were tightened correctly.

There was a global recall too over the oil sump, forget the details but wasn't that the bolt was put in wrong.

Made in Thailand.

EVEN if u do have a little mechanical knowhow -you cant be expected to have all the tools to be able to check every nut and bolt is torqued

correctly never mind the service manuals to get at bolts that are in really hard areas to reach or the specialist tools sometimes required

you can imagine it on an old 20 year old scrapper thats been serviced in every som tam shop in the district by people with no training

but bikes coming out of big wing and real motorsports or rama 9 with sub-standard or even dangerous work ,loose bolts ,things forgotten

to be done,checked etc .....

its a complete disaster that you can be sure of your bike is put together correctly unless youre a mechanic with full set of tools.........

That's why I'm reluctant to buy a bike that's made in Japan and then get it opened by Thai mechanics to change throttle bodies etc. before I've even ridden it. For me the point of an import is that I am paying extra for the QC and attention to detail in the build process. If possible I only want the consumables changed in LOS - I don't want the engine opened here until it's absolutely necessary.

Think I'll wait...

[H1w4yR1da]

nobody needs near 200 hp

You're right. Nobody needs 200hp. But do I want it? Hell yeah!

The Aprilia RSV4 Factory is a great bike, no doubt, and has won several superbike comparisons, but the testers always have the same complaint of it being neutered in the mid-range through the factory settings to improve the MPG numbers (and who cares about mileage with a bike like that)- on a track it reigns, but on the street not quite as much.

That surprises me. Dumb move to lower the mid-range power. As if anyone who buys an RSV4 is concerned about MPG.

Suzuki GSX-R1000 L3 182 hp in-line 4 Superbike

Edited April 22, 2014 by H1w4yR1da

[mania]

The Aprilia RSV4 Factory is a great bike, no doubt, and has won several superbike comparisons, but the testers always have the same complaint of it being neutered in the mid-range through the factory settings to improve the MPG numbers (and who cares about mileage with a bike like that)- on a track it reigns, but on the street not quite as much.

That surprises me. Dumb move to lower the mid-range power. As if anyone who buys an RSV4 is concerned about MPG.

May not be a case of conserving fuel

Might be them leaning it out to pass EPA regs

Then again might not be too hard to fix with a ECU reflash or install a controller

Same as the track bikes

[RubberSideDown]

Two reviews I read said it was to meet minimum MPG requirements, but emissions could play a part.

I would still say it's not the best street super-sport- for the everyday real world, it's probably the Honda, and for really ringing it out it's probably the HP4 (or the S1KRR once it's offered with DDC, which should be 2015)- for the track the Aprilia would be tough to match unless you dumped money into a rival.

For the ~1mil RB was asking for one last year, though, it's a lot of motorcycle at LOS prices.