webfact Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Pheu Thai calls on all sides to back electionBANGKOK, 29 April 2014 (NNT) – The Pheu Thai Party has urged all political sides to refrain from violence, and instead, seek solutions through an election.The party representatives, Pheu Thai Secretary-General Phumtham Wechayachai and Pheu Thai strategist Pokin Polakul made an official announcement, calling on the Election Commission (EC) and the government to hurriedly schedule an exact date for the pending general election. The announcement followed a meeting of political parties during which most of the parties agreed that the only peaceful solution to the current conflict was through an election.Mr. Phumtham added that the Pheu Thai Party would like to see a royal decree brought forward in order to set a clear direction for the country as well as to minimize violence.He also called on all parties to participate in the election regardless of their political standpoint, adding that the longer Thailand is without a government, the more damage is done to the country.-- NNT 2014-04-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Costas2008 Posted April 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2014 "adding that the longer Thailand is without a government, the more damage is done to the country." Should have said: The longer Thailand is with this government, the more damage is done to the country. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nickymaster Posted April 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2014 What a selfish bunch. They never even tried to start any kind of reform. They want things to stay as is. Full power through vote buying in order to rob the coffers and at the same time try to eliminate all checks and balances. Viva nepotism and cronyism. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted April 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> What a selfish bunch. They never even tried to start any kind of reform. They want things to stay as is. Full power through vote buying in order to rob the coffers and at the same time try to eliminate all checks and balances. Viva nepotism and cronyism. Agree. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted April 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2014 Pheu Thai's attempts to control events has dissipated since they voluntarily relinquished control of parliament on December 9. Once an administration takes that step, they have relinquished legislative power. It's gone. What Pheu Thai has tried to do since is maintain a fictional stance that they are still a functioning administration - a stance that has become increasingly strained by the day, especially as they emerged from the election with no mandate, no quorum, and no elected prime minister. It is understandable that they would frame a narrative that puts them in the best possible light. But their attempts to stall the judicial process and to frame a narrative that is prejudicial against the courts is not understandable - and oversteps the bounds in very clear and troubling ways. They have not made any attempt to quell the unrest of the UDD, but in fact have encouraged their narrative. They have used CAPO - which is an organization meant to protect the public - in a blatantly politicized way that seeks to intimidate all those who oppose the Yingluck administration. Their attempts now to dictate the conditions for an election that a good half of the county resists is another example of their bull in a china shop approach. People are really tired of this unseemly display. They are tired of the daily press conferences from Prompong, Chalerm, and Surapong. They are tired of the unrelenting atmosphere of threats and intimidation. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted April 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2014 ptp once again showing that they are getting very unsettled at the prospect of having to answer for all their corrupt practices. Have to wonder how many of these people will be behinf bars if they are not re-elected and this is the only reason they are pushing the election, so they dont have to face court. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nickymaster Posted April 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2014 ptp once again showing that they are getting very unsettled at the prospect of having to answer for all their corrupt practices. Have to wonder how many of these people will be behinf bars if they are not re-elected and this is the only reason they are pushing the election, so they dont have to face court. Spot on! For Thaksin, winning an election is a way to continue with his crimes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Publicus Posted April 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) The quiet background discussion among the 40 democracies of the world that endorsed the Feb 2nd election during the unsuccessful run up to it is that Abhisit has lost his legitimacy and that the Democrat Party is a spent force among the voters. AV is presently scampering around and about, speaking for others with whom he meets, in large part to try to recover from the desperation of his new status as the fallen angel of Thailand. Abhisit needs to show he's more than a rapid action PR acrobat by coming on down to earth to participate in an election that can be called asap and that the DP will contest the election. The PTP and the DP can then present both themselves and their respective reform proposals to the voters for their ultimate and final decision and their clear verdict.. Anything less from AV and the DP is BS. Edited April 29, 2014 by Publicus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chainarong Posted April 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2014 I just can not help but think their is a hidden agenda with the PTP, I really don't trust them at all , all their previous programs have virtually been discredited as botched or corrupt failures, nothing this crowd has done has ever succeeded , it amazes me how they can even front up and call themselves a credible alternative and a picture tells a thousand words ,where is the Prime Minister in this photo. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 I just can not help but think their is a hidden agenda with the PTP, I really don't trust them at all , all their previous programs have virtually been discredited as botched or corrupt failures, nothing this crowd has done has ever succeeded , it amazes me how they can even front up and call themselves a credible alternative and a picture tells a thousand words ,where is the Prime Minister in this photo. Let's vote on it with UN observers and/or Asean observers. Abhisit and the DP are preventing a legitimate or viable election by their obstinate aversion to presenting themselves and their program of "reforms" to the voters for their ultimate and final sovereign decision. Unless and until that happens, I don't trust Abhisit, Suthep, their still anonymous cave man PDRC and their thugs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gunna Posted April 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2014 The quiet background discussion among the 40 democracies of the world that endorsed the Feb 2nd election during the unsuccessful run up to it is that Abhisit has lost his legitimacy and that the Democrat Party is a spent force among the voters. AV is presently scampering around and about, speaking for others with whom he meets, in large part to try to recover from the desperation of his new status as the fallen angel of Thailand. Abhisit needs to show he's more than a rapid action PR acrobat by coming on down to earth to participate in an election that can be called asap and that the DP will contest the election. The PTP and the DP can then present both themselves and their respective reform proposals to the voters for their ultimate and final decision and their clear verdict.. Anything less from AV and the DP is BS. Are you just repeating what that idiot Surapong said " 50 countries endorsed the election." He couldn't actually name them but I have an idea of a few of them ie one party states that have democratic elections with one party or with little or no opposition allowed. eg The Republic of China, The Democratic Republic of North Korea, Cuba, Eritria, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Laos, Uzbekisatan, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Kazakhstan, Angola, Botswana,Cameroun, Ethiopia Interesting enough apart from China many are close to being failed states due to corruption & nepotism 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 What a selfish bunch. They never even tried to start any kind of reform. They want things to stay as is. Full power through vote buying in order to rob the coffers and at the same time try to eliminate all checks and balances. Viva nepotism and cronyism. No that isn't true, they tried several "reforms" of the courts that would bring them under their control. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakseeda Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 I just can not help but think their is a hidden agenda with the PTP, I really don't trust them at all , all their previous programs have virtually been discredited as botched or corrupt failures, nothing this crowd has done has ever succeeded , it amazes me how they can even front up and call themselves a credible alternative and a picture tells a thousand words ,where is the Prime Minister in this photo. Let's vote on it with UN observers and/or Asean observers. Abhisit and the DP are preventing a legitimate or viable election by their obstinate aversion to presenting themselves and their program of "reforms" to the voters for their ultimate and final sovereign decision. Unless and until that happens, I don't trust Abhisit, Suthep, their still anonymous cave man PDRC and their thugs. Public US... News for you ... You DON'T have to worry, you are just a Farang .. Abhisit and Suthep have absolutely nothing to do with or for you.. This is a Thai matter .. If you don't like it , burger off back to your good ol USA.. and stick your "legitimate and viable" where your mom never kissed you... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 An old saying really applies here. If you are not part of the problem you are part of the solution. This works both ways. If they are part of the problem they cant also br part of the solution. All the parties and groups that have abused thier position, taken advantage of the country and their people, broken laws or tried to change laws for self preservation and disregarded court judgements should remove themselves from politics forever. This should be a law here. They can never achieve a solution to the problems facing thailands government because they ARE the problem Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhizBang Posted April 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2014 The Pheu Thai Party has urged all political sides to refrain from violence, and instead, seek solutions through an election. I hope they also told this to the UDD/Red Shirts, police and their lap dog CAPO, and especially emphasized the part about refraining from violence. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 The quiet background discussion among the 40 democracies of the world that endorsed the Feb 2nd election during the unsuccessful run up to it is that Abhisit has lost his legitimacy and that the Democrat Party is a spent force among the voters. AV is presently scampering around and about, speaking for others with whom he meets, in large part to try to recover from the desperation of his new status as the fallen angel of Thailand. Abhisit needs to show he's more than a rapid action PR acrobat by coming on down to earth to participate in an election that can be called asap and that the DP will contest the election. The PTP and the DP can then present both themselves and their respective reform proposals to the voters for their ultimate and final decision and their clear verdict.. Anything less from AV and the DP is BS. Are you just repeating what that idiot Surapong said " 50 countries endorsed the election." He couldn't actually name them but I have an idea of a few of them ie one party states that have democratic elections with one party or with little or no opposition allowed. eg The Republic of China, The Democratic Republic of North Korea, Cuba, Eritria, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Laos, Uzbekisatan, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Kazakhstan, Angola, Botswana,Cameroun, Ethiopia Interesting enough apart from China many are close to being failed states due to corruption & nepotism You are seriously off on a wild and screwy tangent which is par for the course for you guys. Instead of endlessly reciting the cave man PDRC lines, you need to speak to Abhisit and the DP who are against one person one vote elections. Abhisit and the DP chose instead to forfeit the field to a still unrealized Putsch by the raging self-appointed people's sovereign Suthep and their still anonymous cave men of the PDRC. Abhisit and the DP have chosen to leave the field open to an unelected and still anonymous "People's Council" and to an appointed and still anonymous National Assembly to rule absolutely for who knows how long under the pretext of implementing still unspecified "reforms" that the National Assembly only and exclusively would make to impose on the whole of the population and the political system. The PDRC has openly stated it will purge whole families and political figures from the country and will do so summarily and arbitrarily to suit itself and to please only itself. In short, your whole post is assinine [sic], off the wall. Now Asean is in process of endorsing an asap election in Thailand. I invite you and your fellows to challenge that. I await your challenge of that too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) I just can not help but think their is a hidden agenda with the PTP, I really don't trust them at all , all their previous programs have virtually been discredited as botched or corrupt failures, nothing this crowd has done has ever succeeded , it amazes me how they can even front up and call themselves a credible alternative and a picture tells a thousand words ,where is the Prime Minister in this photo. Let's vote on it with UN observers and/or Asean observers. Abhisit and the DP are preventing a legitimate or viable election by their obstinate aversion to presenting themselves and their program of "reforms" to the voters for their ultimate and final sovereign decision. Unless and until that happens, I don't trust Abhisit, Suthep, their still anonymous cave man PDRC and their thugs. If you trust PTP you do not trust yourself. Edited April 29, 2014 by ginjag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 The quiet background discussion among the 40 democracies of the world that endorsed the Feb 2nd election during the unsuccessful run up to it is that Abhisit has lost his legitimacy and that the Democrat Party is a spent force among the voters. AV is presently scampering around and about, speaking for others with whom he meets, in large part to try to recover from the desperation of his new status as the fallen angel of Thailand. Abhisit needs to show he's more than a rapid action PR acrobat by coming on down to earth to participate in an election that can be called asap and that the DP will contest the election. The PTP and the DP can then present both themselves and their respective reform proposals to the voters for their ultimate and final decision and their clear verdict.. Anything less from AV and the DP is BS. Are you just repeating what that idiot Surapong said " 50 countries endorsed the election." He couldn't actually name them but I have an idea of a few of them ie one party states that have democratic elections with one party or with little or no opposition allowed. eg The Republic of China, The Democratic Republic of North Korea, Cuba, Eritria, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Laos, Uzbekisatan, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Kazakhstan, Angola, Botswana,Cameroun, Ethiopia Interesting enough apart from China many are close to being failed states due to corruption & nepotism You are seriously off on a wild and screwy tangent which is par for the course for you guys. Instead of endlessly reciting the cave man PDRC lines, you need to speak to Abhisit and the DP who are against one person one vote elections. Abhisit and the DP chose instead to forfeit the field to a still unrealized Putsch by the raging self-appointed people's sovereign Suthep and their still anonymous cave men of the PDRC. Abhisit and the DP have chosen to leave the field open to an unelected and still anonymous "People's Council" and to an appointed and still anonymous National Assembly to rule absolutely for who knows how long under the pretext of implementing still unspecified "reforms" that the National Assembly only and exclusively would make to impose on the whole of the population and the political system. The PDRC has openly stated it will purge whole families and political figures from the country and will do so summarily and arbitrarily to suit itself and to please only itself. In short, your whole post is assinine [sic], off the wall. Now Asean is in process of endorsing an asap election in Thailand. I invite you and your fellows to challenge that. I await your challenge of that too Speak all you like about whoever you want the truth is Yingluck and the PTP self destructed. Sorry never mind what followed get the truth in your head. Shot it'self in the foot and is paying a penalty for it.................. now want a chance to get re elected, people who try to destroy a nation with their greed do not deserve another chance. AND THAT GOES FOR ANY PARTY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) The quiet background discussion among the 40 democracies of the world that endorsed the Feb 2nd election during the unsuccessful run up to it is that Abhisit has lost his legitimacy and that the Democrat Party is a spent force among the voters. AV is presently scampering around and about, speaking for others with whom he meets, in large part to try to recover from the desperation of his new status as the fallen angel of Thailand. Abhisit needs to show he's more than a rapid action PR acrobat by coming on down to earth to participate in an election that can be called asap and that the DP will contest the election. The PTP and the DP can then present both themselves and their respective reform proposals to the voters for their ultimate and final decision and their clear verdict.. Anything less from AV and the DP is BS. So you are one those guys that are happy with the way things are going. I disagree with your post. It's merely a cheap shot to discredit AV and what he is doing. All in line with PT's tactics. I don't say this because you are pro Thaksin. Nobody in the international community has condemned Suthep for what he is doing. Same applies to the Dems and AV. Think about it because it says a lot. You don't seam to get is. Which is good I guess. But I guess we should also thank Yingluck for all the hard work end endless debates she is involved with to get Thailand going. She doesn't even have time to show up at this important PT announcement. Edited April 29, 2014 by Nickymaster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangrel Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 The quiet background discussion among the 40 democracies of the world that endorsed the Feb 2nd election during the unsuccessful run up to it is that Abhisit has lost his legitimacy and that the Democrat Party is a spent force among the voters. AV is presently scampering around and about, speaking for others with whom he meets, in large part to try to recover from the desperation of his new status as the fallen angel of Thailand. Abhisit needs to show he's more than a rapid action PR acrobat by coming on down to earth to participate in an election that can be called asap and that the DP will contest the election. The PTP and the DP can then present both themselves and their respective reform proposals to the voters for their ultimate and final decision and their clear verdict.. Anything less from AV and the DP is BS. Are you just repeating what that idiot Surapong said Yes, the like-minded often sound familiar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nickymaster Posted April 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) The quiet background discussion among the 40 democracies of the world that endorsed the Feb 2nd election during the unsuccessful run up to it is that Abhisit has lost his legitimacy and that the Democrat Party is a spent force among the voters. AV is presently scampering around and about, speaking for others with whom he meets, in large part to try to recover from the desperation of his new status as the fallen angel of Thailand. Abhisit needs to show he's more than a rapid action PR acrobat by coming on down to earth to participate in an election that can be called asap and that the DP will contest the election. The PTP and the DP can then present both themselves and their respective reform proposals to the voters for their ultimate and final decision and their clear verdict.. Anything less from AV and the DP is BS. Are you just repeating what that idiot Surapong said " 50 countries endorsed the election." He couldn't actually name them but I have an idea of a few of them ie one party states that have democratic elections with one party or with little or no opposition allowed. eg The Republic of China, The Democratic Republic of North Korea, Cuba, Eritria, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Laos, Uzbekisatan, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Kazakhstan, Angola, Botswana,Cameroun, Ethiopia Interesting enough apart from China many are close to being failed states due to corruption & nepotism You are seriously off on a wild and screwy tangent which is par for the course for you guys. Instead of endlessly reciting the cave man PDRC lines, you need to speak to Abhisit and the DP who are against one person one vote elections. Abhisit and the DP chose instead to forfeit the field to a still unrealized Putsch by the raging self-appointed people's sovereign Suthep and their still anonymous cave men of the PDRC. Abhisit and the DP have chosen to leave the field open to an unelected and still anonymous "People's Council" and to an appointed and still anonymous National Assembly to rule absolutely for who knows how long under the pretext of implementing still unspecified "reforms" that the National Assembly only and exclusively would make to impose on the whole of the population and the political system. The PDRC has openly stated it will purge whole families and political figures from the country and will do so summarily and arbitrarily to suit itself and to please only itself. In short, your whole post is assinine [sic], off the wall. Now Asean is in process of endorsing an asap election in Thailand. I invite you and your fellows to challenge that. I await your challenge of that too You are seriously off on a wild and screwy tangent which is par for the course for you guys. Instead of endlessly reciting the cave man PDRC lines, you need to speak to Abhisit and the DP who are against one person one vote elections. No they are not. Reform before elections doesn't mean that they are against one person one vote. Stop misleading people. Abhisit and the DP chose instead to forfeit the field to a still unrealized Putsch by the raging self-appointed people's sovereign Suthep and their still anonymous cave men of the PDRC. Yingluck should and could have started reforms long time ago to cool down the political situation. Instead they went the opposite way by trying to whitewash their families' crimes Abhisit and the DP have chosen to leave the field open to an unelected and still anonymous "People's Council" and to an appointed and still anonymous National Assembly to rule absolutely for who knows how long under the pretext of implementing still unspecified "reforms" that the National Assembly only and exclusively would make to impose on the whole of the population and the political system. Thaksin and his corrupt clan have given Suthep the support he needs to get rid if the Shins. Think about it. The PDRC has openly stated it will purge whole families and political figures from the country and will do so summarily and arbitrarily to suit itself and to please only itself. Getting rid of evil families that steal billions and have poor human rights records is a good thing. Cambodia would also be better of without Hun Sen. Zimbabwe would also be better of without Mugabe. In short, your whole post is assinine [sic], off the wall. Now Asean is in process of endorsing an asap election in Thailand. I invite you and your fellows to challenge that. I await your challenge of that too Yeah I know Surapong is trying very hard to have ASEAN sign a joint letter. Surapong is desperate to the point that he is saying that the draft has been approved. Since the world cannot help him, maybe some of his friends in Asia can. Just for reference, what was it again that Obama told Morsi? "He stressed that democracy is about more than elections; it is also about ensuring that the voices of all Egyptians are heard and represented by their government, including the many Egyptians demonstrating throughout the country" "President Obama encouraged President Morsi to take steps to show that he is responsive to their concerns, and underscored that the current crisis can only be resolved through a political process. As he has said since the revolution, President Obama reiterated that only Egyptians can make the decisions that will determine their future." http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/07/02/obama-morsi-egypt-proetsts/2481861/ It seams that you can't get away anymore with a "we need democlacy" statement. "Don't talk about me, Thailand needs leal democlacy" Poor Thaksin. Edited April 29, 2014 by Nickymaster 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 I just can not help but think their is a hidden agenda with the PTP, I really don't trust them at all , all their previous programs have virtually been discredited as botched or corrupt failures, nothing this crowd has done has ever succeeded , it amazes me how they can even front up and call themselves a credible alternative and a picture tells a thousand words ,where is the Prime Minister in this photo. Let's vote on it with UN observers and/or Asean observers. Abhisit and the DP are preventing a legitimate or viable election by their obstinate aversion to presenting themselves and their program of "reforms" to the voters for their ultimate and final sovereign decision. Unless and until that happens, I don't trust Abhisit, Suthep, their still anonymous cave man PDRC and their thugs. Public US... News for you ... You DON'T have to worry, you are just a Farang .. Abhisit and Suthep have absolutely nothing to do with or for you.. This is a Thai matter .. If you don't like it , burger off back to your good ol USA.. and stick your "legitimate and viable" where your mom never kissed you... Shape up dude. If you are going to say your crude remarks to any farang, then you'd need to say them to all farang. No exceptions for any reason. Thailand is a United States formal national security treaty ally which Prez Obama visited two years ago, Prez Bush visited while he was in office and that Prez Clinton visited while he was in office, each of which met with His Majesty The King at the Royal Palace. Siam and the United States signed their first treaty in 1833, The Treaty of Comity and Economic Relations, which made the Kingdom the first formal treaty ally of the United States in Asia. Tell your mother about it. And you yourself can kiss me there any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomross46 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 The Pheu Thai Party has urged all political sides to refrain from violence, and instead, seek solutions through an election. I hope they also told this to the UDD/Red Shirts, police and their lap dog CAPO, and especially emphasized the part about refraining from violence. Do not despair, they are only following orders from Big Brother. Remember he is watching you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The quiet background discussion among the 40 democracies of the world that endorsed the Feb 2nd election during the unsuccessful run up to it is that Abhisit has lost his legitimacy and that the Democrat Party is a spent force among the voters. AV is presently scampering around and about, speaking for others with whom he meets, in large part to try to recover from the desperation of his new status as the fallen angel of Thailand. Abhisit needs to show he's more than a rapid action PR acrobat by coming on down to earth to participate in an election that can be called asap and that the DP will contest the election. The PTP and the DP can then present both themselves and their respective reform proposals to the voters for their ultimate and final decision and their clear verdict.. Anything less from AV and the DP is BS. Are you just repeating what that idiot Surapong said " 50 countries endorsed the election." He couldn't actually name them but I have an idea of a few of them ie one party states that have democratic elections with one party or with little or no opposition allowed. eg The Republic of China, The Democratic Republic of North Korea, Cuba, Eritria, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Laos, Uzbekisatan, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Kazakhstan, Angola, Botswana,Cameroun, Ethiopia Interesting enough apart from China many are close to being failed states due to corruption & nepotism You are seriously off on a wild and screwy tangent which is par for the course for you guys. Instead of endlessly reciting the cave man PDRC lines, you need to speak to Abhisit and the DP who are against one person one vote elections. Abhisit and the DP chose instead to forfeit the field to a still unrealized Putsch by the raging self-appointed people's sovereign Suthep and their still anonymous cave men of the PDRC. Abhisit and the DP have chosen to leave the field open to an unelected and still anonymous "People's Council" and to an appointed and still anonymous National Assembly to rule absolutely for who knows how long under the pretext of implementing still unspecified "reforms" that the National Assembly only and exclusively would make to impose on the whole of the population and the political system. The PDRC has openly stated it will purge whole families and political figures from the country and will do so summarily and arbitrarily to suit itself and to please only itself. In short, your whole post is assinine [sic], off the wall. Now Asean is in process of endorsing an asap election in Thailand. I invite you and your fellows to challenge that. I await your challenge of that too Looks like GK is on day off today. So are you on duty on the roster for today? In regard to your comment: "The PDRC has openly stated it will purge whole families and political figures from the country and will do so summarily and arbitrarily to suit itself and to please only itself." Lets try your own approach to this: 'Provide a link'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The quiet background discussion among the 40 democracies of the world that endorsed the Feb 2nd election during the unsuccessful run up to it is that Abhisit has lost his legitimacy and that the Democrat Party is a spent force among the voters. AV is presently scampering around and about, speaking for others with whom he meets, in large part to try to recover from the desperation of his new status as the fallen angel of Thailand. Abhisit needs to show he's more than a rapid action PR acrobat by coming on down to earth to participate in an election that can be called asap and that the DP will contest the election. The PTP and the DP can then present both themselves and their respective reform proposals to the voters for their ultimate and final decision and their clear verdict.. Anything less from AV and the DP is BS. Are you just repeating what that idiot Surapong said " 50 countries endorsed the election." He couldn't actually name them but I have an idea of a few of them ie one party states that have democratic elections with one party or with little or no opposition allowed. eg The Republic of China, The Democratic Republic of North Korea, Cuba, Eritria, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Laos, Uzbekisatan, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Kazakhstan, Angola, Botswana,Cameroun, Ethiopia Interesting enough apart from China many are close to being failed states due to corruption & nepotism You are seriously off on a wild and screwy tangent which is par for the course for you guys. Instead of endlessly reciting the cave man PDRC lines, you need to speak to Abhisit and the DP who are against one person one vote elections. Abhisit and the DP chose instead to forfeit the field to a still unrealized Putsch by the raging self-appointed people's sovereign Suthep and their still anonymous cave men of the PDRC. Abhisit and the DP have chosen to leave the field open to an unelected and still anonymous "People's Council" and to an appointed and still anonymous National Assembly to rule absolutely for who knows how long under the pretext of implementing still unspecified "reforms" that the National Assembly only and exclusively would make to impose on the whole of the population and the political system. The PDRC has openly stated it will purge whole families and political figures from the country and will do so summarily and arbitrarily to suit itself and to please only itself. In short, your whole post is assinine [sic], off the wall. Now Asean is in process of endorsing an asap election in Thailand. I invite you and your fellows to challenge that. I await your challenge of that too Looks like GK is on day off today. So are you on duty on the roster for today? In regard to your comment: "The PDRC has openly stated it will purge whole families and political figures from the country and will do so summarily and arbitrarily to suit itself and to please only itself." Lets try your own approach to this: 'Provide a link'. GK is covering the OXFORD topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 The quiet background discussion among the 40 democracies of the world that endorsed the Feb 2nd election during the unsuccessful run up to it is that Abhisit has lost his legitimacy and that the Democrat Party is a spent force among the voters. AV is presently scampering around and about, speaking for others with whom he meets, in large part to try to recover from the desperation of his new status as the fallen angel of Thailand. Abhisit needs to show he's more than a rapid action PR acrobat by coming on down to earth to participate in an election that can be called asap and that the DP will contest the election. The PTP and the DP can then present both themselves and their respective reform proposals to the voters for their ultimate and final decision and their clear verdict.. Anything less from AV and the DP is BS. So you are one those guys that are happy with the way things are going. I disagree with your post. It's merely a cheap shot to discredit AV and what he is doing. All in line with PT's tactics. I don't say this because you are pro Thaksin. Nobody in the international community has condemned Suthep for what he is doing. Same applies to the Dems and AV. Think about it because it says a lot. You don't seam to get is. Which is good I guess. But I guess we should also thank Yingluck for all the hard work end endless debates she is involved with to get Thailand going. She doesn't even have time to show up at this important PT announcement. You presume, and you of course presume wrongly which means you mischaracterize me and misrepresent my views and analysis of modern Thailand. I'd say your faults are more rooted in thoughtless attitudes than in anything nefarious. Still, it's time for you to go back to school, but you can get online learning here, in this post, and free of charge. When you say "Nobody in the international community has condemned Suthep for what he is doing. Same applies to the Dems and AV. Think about it." you'd need find out much more about that. Governments don't publicly choose sides in the domestic disputes of other countries, governments. Foreign governments call for peaceful and democratic resolutions to disputes within other countries, democratic ones especially. Many posters know that publicly and officially, that's the diplomatic protocol. Any rule has its exception, and the exception to this rule is a sharp and distinctive one. Horrendous leaders of foreign governments are criticized, as in the case of Syria, or get roundly condemned, as in the instance of North Korea. Mugabe is virtually every democratic government's devil. So no democratic government to include Asean governments have criticized either Thaksin, Yingluck, Suthep or Abhisit, and no government will openly or publicly do so. Think about it. As an afterthought, the OP reports a PTP event, not an official Government of Thailand event. Kuhn Phumtham Wechayachai is secretary-general of the Pheu Thai Party, Yingluck Shinawatra is prime minister of Thailand. Kuhn Phumtham is pictured in the OP in the center reading the political party's statement. PM Yingluck is busy with a certain unemployed opposition politician who's shopping his CV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antimedia Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 I just can not help but think their is a hidden agenda with the PTP, I really don't trust them at all , all their previous programs have virtually been discredited as botched or corrupt failures, nothing this crowd has done has ever succeeded , it amazes me how they can even front up and call themselves a credible alternative and a picture tells a thousand words ,where is the Prime Minister in this photo. Let's vote on it with UN observers and/or Asean observers. Abhisit and the DP are preventing a legitimate or viable election by their obstinate aversion to presenting themselves and their program of "reforms" to the voters for their ultimate and final sovereign decision. Unless and until that happens, I don't trust Abhisit, Suthep, their still anonymous cave man PDRC and their thugs. Public US... News for you ... You DON'T have to worry, you are just a Farang .. Abhisit and Suthep have absolutely nothing to do with or for you.. This is a Thai matter .. If you don't like it , burger off back to your good ol USA.. and stick your "legitimate and viable" where your mom never kissed you... Shape up dude. If you are going to say your crude remarks to any farang, then you'd need to say them to all farang. No exceptions for any reason. Thailand is a United States formal national security treaty ally which Prez Obama visited two years ago, Prez Bush visited while he was in office and that Prez Clinton visited while he was in office, each of which met with His Majesty The King at the Royal Palace. Siam and the United States signed their first treaty in 1833, The Treaty of Comity and Economic Relations, which made the Kingdom the first formal treaty ally of the United States in Asia. Tell your mother about it. And you yourself can kiss me there any time. And herein lies the problem you pompous little poodle, I and many other westerners have had their fill with the USA. Mind you I had mine back in 1971 after my second tour in Vietnam. The three Presidents you name, have screwed each and every country they have meddled in and with, as uninvited guests. Now they are doing a hatchet job on their own country. Thaksin is a puppet of the west, namely the USA and they will do anything to keep him and his family in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> You are seriously off on a wild and screwy tangent which is par for the course for you guys. Instead of endlessly reciting the cave man PDRC lines, you need to speak to Abhisit and the DP who are against one person one vote elections. Abhisit and the DP chose instead to forfeit the field to a still unrealized Putsch by the raging self-appointed people's sovereign Suthep and their still anonymous cave men of the PDRC. Abhisit and the DP have chosen to leave the field open to an unelected and still anonymous "People's Council" and to an appointed and still anonymous National Assembly to rule absolutely for who knows how long under the pretext of implementing still unspecified "reforms" that the National Assembly only and exclusively would make to impose on the whole of the population and the political system. The PDRC has openly stated it will purge whole families and political figures from the country and will do so summarily and arbitrarily to suit itself and to please only itself. In short, your whole post is assinine [sic], off the wall. Now Asean is in process of endorsing an asap election in Thailand. I invite you and your fellows to challenge that. I await your challenge of that too Looks like GK is on day off today. So are you on duty on the roster for today? In regard to your comment: "The PDRC has openly stated it will purge whole families and political figures from the country and will do so summarily and arbitrarily to suit itself and to please only itself." Lets try your own approach to this: 'Provide a link'. Ah yes, you'd invited me to do the same a couple of days ago at another thread and I addressed your issue in a different way but I did address your issue. When I restated the point in a post earlier today I'd expected you to invite me anew to post links. Your own anti-democracy posters have posted in greater numbers and on more occasions than I can count that, not only will the Shinawatra family be purged from Thailand, but so will the families Suthep and the cave men of the PDRC - and the still anonymous appointed "People's Council" and the appointed yet still anonymous National Assembly - have summarily and arbitrarily identified need to be "cleansed" from Thailand. This includes of course all of the "Thaksin regime" and its allies. From what too many of your fellow feudal posters have posted, that would include certain undesirable farang whom the salivating posters have arbitrarily and summarily identified as pro-Thaksin and family / regime, and thus equally as evil as the Shinawatra family and its Thai allies in Thailand. So you are invited to check out but three links. There are more if you find the reading informativel, enlightening and/or frightening. http://focusweb.org/content/thai-politics-glance http://asiancorrespondent.com/116542/opinion-thailands-anti-govt-protests-suthep-is-riding-the-tiger-into-chaos/ http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1312/S00161/us-trained-army-supports-thailands-election.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 "adding that the longer Thailand is without a government, the more damage is done to the country." Should have said: The longer Thailand is with this government, the more damage is done to the country. Should have said that the longer Thailand is without the PTP government the LESS damage will be done to the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The stuttering parrot Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Don't mention elections! The yellows can't stand the word.They would prefer the the self proclaimed peoples medium to have his way and set up his reform council and just toss whoever they see fit out of the country. Mention vote and the whole yellow brigade go off their trolleys because they know the result will go the PTP by a country mile. Notice the little minded snide remarks from the devout yellows again to anyone who has a different opinion. They only cheapen whatever point you are trying to make! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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