Popular Post smedly Posted May 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2014 Yes - Overseas Some of the guilty are on the run already and just while we are on the subject Another reform that needs to happen - if people decide to do a runner from justice and fail to attend court to defend themselves the trial should continue without them, it is their problem for not attending, people talk about Thaksin and his 2 year jail term - what is constantly forgotten are all the other charges against him yet to be heard because of his absence - his choice continue with the trial 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 While they are going after Yingluck, is there any chance we can see the perjury laws returning to pre-Yingluck standard? By that I mean the perjury laws should be reintroduced to stop people lying their asses off in court. The laws were scrapped when Yingluck was forced to tell a series of porkie pies in court. Seems like lying in court is less likely to get you into trouble here than telling the truth in public. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkyCowboy Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 While they are going after Yingluck, is there any chance we can see the perjury laws returning to pre-Yingluck standard? By that I mean the perjury laws should be reintroduced to stop people lying their asses off in court. The laws were scrapped when Yingluck was forced to tell a series of porkie pies in court. Perjury laws do not apply at that level. Remember Clinton and Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkyCowboy Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Good news..................... she will pay for let poor farmer in distress......... Are they the Red Shirts?? They are her supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted May 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2014 With all the apparent dysfunction, some things are working. One of the things is what the NACC is doing. They were created to oversee corruption. That's what they do. That's why they're called the National Anti-Corruption Commission. And to the horror of Pheu Thai, that's what they are actually doing. They have been investigating corruption in the largest fiscal scandal that has ever happened in this country. They are actually proceeding with it, and the levers of justice are actually moving forward constitutionally. With all that is not working - that is working. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Good news..................... she will pay for let poor farmer in distress......... Are they the Red Shirts?? They are her supporters. Interesting there haven't been collections for the farmers at the Red rally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Good news..................... she will pay for let poor farmer in distress......... Are they the Red Shirts?? They are her supporters. A lot of farmers loose confidence with PT, PT loose a part of is electoral base....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 With all the apparent dysfunction, some things are working. One of the things is what the NACC is doing. They were created to oversee corruption. That's what they do. That's why they're called the National Anti-Corruption Commission. And to the horror of Pheu Thai, that's what they are actually doing. They have been investigating corruption in the largest fiscal scandal that has ever happened in this country. They are actually proceeding with it, and the levers of justice are actually moving forward constitutionally. With all that is not working - that is working. In spite of them having their budget cut by the PT Govt as their first anti-corruption measure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomross46 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Regarding the probe on corruption charges in connection with a government to government rice deal against former commerce minister Boonsong Teriyaphirom and former deputy commerce minister Poom Saraphol, Mr Vicha said that the investigation process would take 3-4 months because some of the accused are abroad So here we go again, they can not be charged for the crimes they committed because they have left the country. Where have they gone, Cambodia, China or Dubai? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 She didn't have a dime transferred into her account. How can this be called corruption? Foreseeing substantial loss in the program is not good enough to convict her with the charges. Well, firstly you have no idea if she financially received any money do you. Secondly, you need to understand what corruption is. If you use your position to disadvantage your employer (in the this case the state and Thai people) in order to gain for yourself OR your family and friends,,, or even to cover up something for yourself, family or friends then it is corruption. The key point here is that the decisions made were not for the good of the country or the people. So, don't make assumptions that corruption is a simple matter of checking for deposits in her bank account, it's not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshstiles Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 While they are going after Yingluck, is there any chance we can see the perjury laws returning to pre-Yingluck standard? By that I mean the perjury laws should be reintroduced to stop people lying their asses off in court. The laws were scrapped when Yingluck was forced to tell a series of porkie pies in court. What would those lies be? How would you know they are lies? You have personal experience with Yingluck and know for a fact they are lies? Just want the truth here. ...OMG.....did you just fall off the turnip truck??? If you are in government in ANY country.....you are a liar.... Wakeup greenhorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINCENT2012 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 against Yingluck or involved....? charges for what.....for what everybody allready now......! i wish them prison and all their money inside or outside the country taken to give it back to the thais who pay their taxes to have a better country not a few richer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshstiles Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Regarding the probe on corruption charges in connection with a government to government rice deal against former commerce minister Boonsong Teriyaphirom and former deputy commerce minister Poom Saraphol, Mr Vicha said that the investigation process would take 3-4 months because some of the accused are abroad So here we go again, they can not be charged for the crimes they committed because they have left the country. Where have they gone, Cambodia, China or Dubai? ...in other words.....they are giving a "heads-up" to Yingluck to leave the country NOW!!! Take the cash and run to brother....your bedroom is waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissanc Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 She didn't have a dime transferred into her account. How can this be called corruption? Foreseeing substantial loss in the program is not good enough to convict her with the charges. No money would be transferred into her Thai accounts anyway. It would go into the offshore accounts via the Hong Kong loophole. She is in charge of a scheme, which allows people to siphon off money by the millions. Even if she says she doesn't know about the siphoning, she's still in charge of the scheme, so she's liable. If Thaksin doesn't get back and pass the Amnesty Bill, Yingluck will have to move to Dubai. Maybe all the other Shins can move there too and be one happy, corrxxx family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Yingluck should be leaving the country any day now. To misquote Forrest,fly Yinny fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looping Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) "...six additional witnesses would be allowed to testify." Would these be the additional witnesses they denied could testify on behalf of Yingluck or are these additional witnesses for the prosecution. Just curious. So it isn't good enough that Yingluck has been ousted by a judicial coup because the DPRC didn't like the election outcome, nooo... now the NACC has to turn the knife a few more times. Let's put the little lady in jail because she happens to be the brother of Thaksin. Maybe she should be tried for more than one crime because she's been accused of committing more than one crime? That's normally how it works. Or should she only be tried for one crime and be let off the others? Is that what your saying? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Edited May 16, 2014 by looping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looping Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) duplicate post... Edited May 16, 2014 by looping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrysum Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Confuscoius says, too many fingers in the pie, always spoil the dessert.... Many are out of country? Guess some know when to get out of town...... Woman who flies upside down have hairy-crack up.... Brother who flees, has some-ting-wong...... Gave the wife some advice, do not go back to Thailand..... Never count chickens before they hatch.... But she wants to go home...... Ok that is your decision........ Just a thought. Kerry..... Moral of story? If they fly upside down? and flee country? some-ting wong....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 "...six additional witnesses would be allowed to testify." Would these be the additional witnesses they denied could testify on behalf of Yingluck or are these additional witnesses for the prosecution. Just curious. So it isn't good enough that Yingluck has been ousted by a judicial coup because the DPRC didn't like the election outcome, nooo... now the NACC has to turn the knife a few more times. Let's put the little lady in jail because she happens to be the brother of Thaksin. Little lady my arse.She took the job for one reason,and one reason only,to get Takkky and his money back.She failed in everything she did,because her corrupt brother was pulling the strings.Being PM has responcibilities,and now its time to face up,you do the bidding of a criminal and now its judgement day.I hope she hangs around to show she is a better person than her Pi chai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 While they are going after Yingluck, is there any chance we can see the perjury laws returning to pre-Yingluck standard? By that I mean the perjury laws should be reintroduced to stop people lying their asses off in court. The laws were scrapped when Yingluck was forced to tell a series of porkie pies in court. Perjury laws do not apply at that level. Remember Clinton and Obama. I remember Nixon,for all the wrong reasons.The other 2 still have a good name,os at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 its really funny to see a "democracy" like thailand have where the highest courts and even the nacc are working only in favour for the opposition of the yellows. means for the rich and super rich and the feudalism system. and more funny is to see the military forces are not under control and commander of the goverment. this is a real funny "democracy. but i doubt that the huge majority of the thais would keep quiet any longer. would be nice to see them cleaning up the country soon. Welcome to the TVF, you have acquired instant Pro gov poster knowledge very quick ?? Did notice this last month we LOST one or two big names. Study Chalerm and Jutaporn more if you love true democracy and this governments record over the last 3 years. You want red rule and anarchy, ??? because all you guys are coming up with is BENT courts--Thaksins "politically motivated" dung. All other critics of government are YELLOWS and SUTHEP lovers---sick sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 its really funny to see a "democracy" like thailand have where the highest courts and even the nacc are working only in favour for the opposition of the yellows. means for the rich and super rich and the feudalism system. and more funny is to see the military forces are not under control and commander of the goverment. this is a real funny "democracy. but i doubt that the huge majority of the thais would keep quiet any longer. would be nice to see them cleaning up the country soon. Nothing "funny" about the police? No investigation into violence against PDRC. Is that not "funny" in your view? You have a strong opinion about Thailand, even predicting violence but no mention about the red police force. The guys that enforce laws selectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Yingluck should be leaving the country any day now. ....WHAT !!!! are they holding the Olympics again ????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 "...six additional witnesses would be allowed to testify." Would these be the additional witnesses they denied could testify on behalf of Yingluck or are these additional witnesses for the prosecution. Just curious. So it isn't good enough that Yingluck has been ousted by a judicial coup because the DPRC didn't like the election outcome, nooo... now the NACC has to turn the knife a few more times. Let's put the little lady in jail because she happens to be the brother of Thaksin. You seem to have a problem with comprehension and expression.....you twist things around to suit your own desires and forget the facts. Like maybe I don't agree with a lot she does and says, but I think she is too attractive a woman to be any ones BROTHER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Good news..................... she will pay for let poor farmer in distress......... Are they the Red Shirts?? They are her supporters. Interesting there haven't been collections for the farmers at the Red rally. Suthep did it because he was beginning to need the cash, and of course, he just could not help himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 "...six additional witnesses would be allowed to testify." Would these be the additional witnesses they denied could testify on behalf of Yingluck or are these additional witnesses for the prosecution. Just curious. So it isn't good enough that Yingluck has been ousted by a judicial coup because the DPRC didn't like the election outcome, nooo... now the NACC has to turn the knife a few more times. Let's put the little lady in jail because she happens to be the brother of Thaksin. "Let's put the little lady in jail because she happens to be the brother of Thaksin." Some cynics have questioned her parentage, but with her good looks I seriously doubt that she is Thaksin's brother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Good news..................... she will pay for let poor farmer in distress......... Are they the Red Shirts?? They are her supporters. Interesting there haven't been collections for the farmers at the Red rally. Suthep did it because he was beginning to need the cash, and of course, he just could not help himself. After CAPO froze his assets, people started donating. Sort of backfired on CAPO, didn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 "...six additional witnesses would be allowed to testify." Would these be the additional witnesses they denied could testify on behalf of Yingluck or are these additional witnesses for the prosecution. Just curious. So it isn't good enough that Yingluck has been ousted by a judicial coup because the DPRC didn't like the election outcome, nooo... now the NACC has to turn the knife a few more times. Let's put the little lady in jail because she happens to be the brother of Thaksin. "Let's put the little lady in jail because she happens to be the brother of Thaksin." Some cynics have questioned her parentage, but with her good looks I seriously doubt that she is Thaksin's brother. Or his daughter for that matter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 "...six additional witnesses would be allowed to testify." Would these be the additional witnesses they denied could testify on behalf of Yingluck or are these additional witnesses for the prosecution. Just curious. So it isn't good enough that Yingluck has been ousted by a judicial coup because the DPRC didn't like the election outcome, nooo... now the NACC has to turn the knife a few more times. Let's put the little lady in jail because she happens to be the brother of Thaksin. "Let's put the little lady in jail because she happens to be the brother of Thaksin." Some cynics have questioned her parentage, but with her good looks I seriously doubt that she is Thaksin's brother. Or his daughter for that matter! Oneday another recruited Pro gov supporters club. have to pardon the err, due to his excitement to post in denial fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Yingluck should be leaving the country any day now. She has a bit of time yet. After the investigation is completed there will be some toing and froing between the NACC and the attorney-general before the criminal case can start. She may chose to leave the country just before the sentencing or scarper before they can even call her to acknowledge the charges in court, after which the rest of the trial could be conducted in absentia. Avoiding the opening of the trial would enable her to stay abroad until the statute of limitations has lapse which I think is 10 years. On the other hand one of the necessary reforms is that the statute of limitations clock should be stopped in cases where the accused is out of the country. Anyway now is probably a good time for her to start looking for houses abroad and a new school for Nong Pike, as well as applying for foreign passports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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