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"Ms. Pimbongkod said. "I thought Thai people dislike those who don't speak Thai well."

It's okay love, Thais hate all farang (if you read TV a lot) so join the club biggrin.png

You will find that most of the posters who say that are the same ones who bash Thailand all the time. They say it to justify their gutless keyboard antics of running the country and it's people down. Next to trolls, the lowest form of forum life. thumbsup.gif

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Your definately crazy, i only wondered if it was truly what she said as the red propaganda machine called khaosod is not reliable.

I don't understand your reading disability. I have told you now five times I did not comment on, or mention, the Khaosod report or the woman's alleged comments. I didn't write a single word about them. Stop bringing them up to me, you make it seem like you actually, really cannot read.

What is so difficult about this that you cannot understand it? I don't know how to say it differently. I don't care if the story is right or wrong. I don't care if this woman said something or not

All of my comments have been about smirking, idiotic posters posing as thinking humans who support the killing of millions of people. They said that. It is reliable. You don't have to wonder about it. They wrote it AND posted smileys because they were so pleased at their status as invidious imbeciles. And you supported them.

Your definately crazy, i only wondered if it was truly what she said as the red propaganda machine called khaosod is not reliable.

I and I guess even the red supporters with their proven tendency to violence would never stand for mass murder. I would love to see where i said that.

So if you could show me where i said that i want to execute red shirts you could put me to shame. You could also read my posts and see one of my posts in this topic before you made your post condemning it.

I just frankly don't believe you are stupid. I refuse to believe it. You can review your posts. On top of that, we have already discussed the post where you agreed with the people who want to kill others. You actually discussed (and defended) that post. So don't disrespect yourself that way, and others reading your posts.

If you want to disassociate yourself from these slimy pro-genocide posts, no one can stop you. If you want to deny you want to kill millions of Thais, unlike far too many other posters, go ahead and say so. I can't make you support genocide and I can't make you oppose it. I give *my* stance on it. I'm against it, right from the get-go when I took your post as a sorry example, and stated my views strongly and solidly. And I think anyone who mildly, sort-of maybe supports this genocide call is the lowest of the low.

Unlike me, you brought up and accepted the Khaosod article and alleged quotes by the woman, both, fully. You gave them full credence. And THEN you supported them. Try to remember. Either you or someone using your logon posted:

I admire her honesty and being on the side of right and justice, besides anyone against the Shins cant be that bad.
Remember? At 20:17 Thailand time on Sunday, May 18? If you didn't post that, you should have said so many, many posts ago, the first time I said it was despicable. If it's someone forging your login, let's join up and denounce him (certain to be a man). Otherwise, defend it or change around and reject it. Just don't put any smileys in.
Because at that point, on Sunday evening in Thailand, you had decided to write that genocide was a terrific idea, and you haven't changed since, not in public in this forum at least. And that is what I despise and attacked, and may do again.

Few years ago there was a Thai celebrity stating that Angkor Wat was in fact Thai made and therefor still a Thai possession. Public excuses had to be made.

This dumb piece of beauty case on 2 legs should do the same.

No, there never was such a Thai celebrity. Please refresh your memory what happened to cause the dangerous and destructive riots in Cambodia. GIYF. A rumour STATED Suvanant "Kob" Kongying said such a thing. She did not say this, or anything like it, or anything that could be mistaken for it, ever. No public excuses were made on this side of the border, by her or anyone else. Whether it was a mistake, stupidity or because of evil intentions, we shall never know — but it was totally, completely of Cambodian origin, by Khmers and no Thai including Kob was involved.

It's a minor point, but you brought it up, and it's best to try to take maximum effort to kill urban legends.

But it's also revealing that once again you seem to accept 100% that the article about the latest Miss Universe Thailand is correct and that she said what she was reported to have said, and you base your entire opinion on it. Of course it's also ironic that you use a false-flag statement about the 2003 riots as foundation for your 2014 opinion in a new case.

Don't have a cow. The truth of the Khaosod article will be determined in (probably a short) time. She's already deleted all her social media accounts, so that tells us something. But whether Khaosod is a paragon of journalism or whether Ms Fai is another empty-headed mob-lemming or the victim of an evil rumour-monger as in the Angkor case - none of it matters to me in any manner.

What matters to me is that there are people right here, in this thread, who *DO* support killing and have said so. And there are {cough}posters{cough} who supported them, right from the start of this thread until now. Right?

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Huh? "......Whether it was a mistake, stupidity or because of evil intentions, we shall never know — but it was totally, completely of Cambodian origin, by Khmers......." Are you sane? We will never know the origin of this but we accuse the Khmers? And yes, public excuses have been made. After the Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh got thrown with objects and hundreds of angry Cambodians present. You are over creative in your defence. Celebrities should at least try to play a model role in society and drumming up sentences as "They should all be executed" followed by "sorry sorry, sorry, I am only 22 and haven't seen anything yet outside the K Bar" would be a bore if it wasn't so incredible inhuman to say. It just proofs again how High So's think and the gap in Thai society will never be narrowed with a young generation of this kind of Abhisit alikes.

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........."I am not neutral. I am on the side of His Majesty the King," Ms. Weluree wrote. "I'm so angry at these evil activists. They should all be executed.".......

beauty AND brains!

Beauty and pluri-assassin. Publicly calling for the extermination of dozens of millions of Thais (the great majority of the population who votes for one side) is far beyond what Hitler ,Stalin and Pol Pol did.

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Yes, the reds are dirty, and the 5,000,000 Bhat bounty on Suthep and co is no doubt dirty money too.

Basil, is that from Fawlty Towers? No doubt where the 'dirty' money comes from? Any proof. Any chance we can meet and we speak to some Reds and you repeat your words? Basil??

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"Ms. Pimbongkod said. "I thought Thai people dislike those who don't speak Thai well."

It's okay love, Thais hate all farang (if you read TV a lot) so join the club biggrin.png

I would say there is a portion of Thais (the Suthep's yellowish/black) who hate all farangs and half of Thais too.

They hate just everybody in this planet except their group of ultra racist pluriassassins.

There is another portion of Thais, mostly for North and Northeast who don't hate farangs or other nationalities. These are the true Thai people in my opinon, not the Chinese/Indians/Malays of Bangkok towards South who think they are the owner of the world and the sinking Bangkok is the center of the Universe.

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I watched the contest the other night. I thought most of the contestants were less beautiful than an average market stall girl. And all so white. I don't think there was one dark skinned lady in the line up.

Bit like a Millwall crowd!! alt=giggle.gif>

Yes, sadly you are correct. The club have made huge efforts to encourage a crowd that more accurately reflects the ethnic make up of the clubs local area: to little effect. Rod Liddle, reporting in the Sunday Times said that he was watching a game from one of the main stands (not the Cold Blow Lane end) when a chap turned to him and said " 'ere Rod, 'ow can the papers still call us a racist club, when we got all them n***ers on the pitch" . Sad but true. Still, I'm not living there now and I hate racism in all countries and there are few worse examples than the way the 'white' Thai establishment treat their darker skinned brethren.

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"Ms. Pimbongkod said. "I thought Thai people dislike those who don't speak Thai well."

It's okay love, Thais hate all farang (if you read TV a lot) so join the club biggrin.png

I would say there is a portion of Thais (the Suthep's yellowish/black) who hate all farangs and half of Thais too.

They hate just everybody in this planet except their group of ultra racist pluriassassins.

There is another portion of Thais, mostly for North and Northeast who don't hate farangs or other nationalities. These are the true Thai people in my opinon, not the Chinese/Indians/Malays of Bangkok towards South who think they are the owner of the world and the sinking Bangkok is the center of the Universe.

Where do you get this inane drivel from?

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I don't really care what you do, you nasty, condescending trollette, but DON'T TWIST MY WORDS !

I did not call for anything, it is all in your head. You are just trying to start an argument, please pick on someone else, I am not interested in conversing with you.

Even though you just did both.

What a strange man.

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Beauty Queen Apologises For "Dirty Reds" Remark

By Khaosod English

BANGKOK — The winner of Miss Universe Thailand has apologised for the hateful comments she posted about pro-government Redshirts on social media.

Weluree "Fai" Ditsayabut, 22, said on a Channel 3 talk show this morning that she is distressed by the wave of criticism her posts have generated.

"It is still fortunate that I have people around to cheer me up," she told talk show host Sorayut Suthasanajinda.

Hours after Ms. Weluree was crowned winner of the popular Miss Universe Thailand beauty pageant on Saturday night, it was quickly discovered that she had a history of publishing disparaging comments about Redshirts on Facebook and Twitter.

In one particularly harsh comment from November, Ms. Werulee described the Redshirts as "anti-monarchy," "dirty" "evils" who should be "executed."

In an interview this morning, Ms. Werulee confirmed that despite the uproar her comments have caused, she will not concede the pageant crown. She explained that she intended the remarks for "a circle of close friends," and not members of the public.

"I was careless. I was young. I did it recklessly," Ms. Werulee said, adding that she has learned a lesson from the incident and that she intends to use all the criticism she has received to improve herself.

"It won't happen again. Let me apologise to all the fans of the pageant, and to all Thais," said Miss Universe Thailand 2014.

Speaking after Ms. Werulee, beauty pageant runner-up Pimbongkod "Ellie" Chankaew denied rumours that she cried on stage out of bitterness when judges announced Ms. Werulee as the winner.

When judges annouced Ms. Wurlee as the winner, many of Ms. Pimbongkod's disappointed fans cheered her name instead.

"At that moment, I was so glad and overwhelmed by the people who loudly cheered for me," Ms. Pimbongkod said. Ms. Pimbongkod, who was raised in the United States, said she never expected to come this far in the tournament.

"I didn't expect that someone from a foreign country and virtually unknown [to the Thais] would receive so much support," Ms. Pimbongkod said. "I thought Thai people dislike those who don't speak Thai well. That's why I cried. I wasn't upset. I accept the judges' verdict."

Source: http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1400481823

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-- Khaosod English 2014-05-19

Apologizing is an unknown action for most of the Thai Politicians. Just by taking that humble step, she puts herself in a position far above the political class.

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Huh? "......Whether it was a mistake, stupidity or because of evil intentions, we shall never know — but it was totally, completely of Cambodian origin, by Khmers......." Are you sane? We will never know the origin of this but we accuse the Khmers? And yes, public excuses have been made. After the Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh got thrown with objects and hundreds of angry Cambodians present. You are over creative in your defence. Celebrities should at least try to play a model role in society and drumming up sentences as "They should all be executed" followed by "sorry sorry, sorry, I am only 22 and haven't seen anything yet outside the K Bar" would be a bore if it wasn't so incredible inhuman to say. It just proofs again how High So's think and the gap in Thai society will never be narrowed with a young generation of this kind of Abhisit alikes.

No Thai including Kob said anything about Angkor Wat, good or bad. Ever. The report she said something was made up, it did not happen. No Thai official, embassy or government uttered excuses, public or otherwise.

It has nothing to do with a defence. The FACT is that Thais had nothing to do with starting that riot in Phnom Penh. It was a rumour that started a mob that turned into a full-scale anti-Thai, anti-Thailand riot. Yes, show business people often say really, really stupid, mostly because they are really dumb. But in the case of the Cambodian anti-Thai riots, no movie star said anything dumb at all.

Please do not take this urban legend any further. This is 2014 for heaven's sake. You can consult hundreds if not thousands of sources and determine what happened. No matter what one you read you will NOT find one where any Thai including Kob said anything about Angkor Wat, in any manner.

You could prove me wrong by providing a source that says otherwise. But of course you can't. Your memory doesn't count. Neither does mine. You can PROVE a movie star started that, or you can withdraw your foolish urban legend about that very unfortunate 2003 riot in Cambodia. Your memory is wrong. Please don't try to further this story further.

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"Ms. Pimbongkod said. "I thought Thai people dislike those who don't speak Thai well."

It's okay love, Thais hate all farang (if you read TV a lot) so join the club biggrin.png

I would say there is a portion of Thais (the Suthep's yellowish/black) who hate all farangs and half of Thais too.

They hate just everybody in this planet except their group of ultra racist pluriassassins.

There is another portion of Thais, mostly for North and Northeast who don't hate farangs or other nationalities. These are the true Thai people in my opinon, not the Chinese/Indians/Malays of Bangkok towards South who think they are the owner of the world and the sinking Bangkok is the center of the Universe.

Where do you get this inane drivel from?

I was going to write that and then suggest Khun Max should live in Thailand for a while. Even if his passport says he is here, he actually isn't.

My latest suggestion for the last couple of years, when available, is to go and mingle with the mobs, all of them. FEEL the hatred, 5555.

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Beauty Queen Apologises For "Dirty Reds" Remark

By Khaosod English

BANGKOK — The winner of Miss Universe Thailand has apologised for the hateful comments she posted about pro-government Redshirts on social media.

In one particularly harsh comment from November, Ms. Werulee described the Redshirts as "anti-monarchy," "dirty" "evils" who should be "executed."

"It won't happen again. Let me apologise to all the fans of the pageant, and to all Thais," said Miss Universe Thailand 2014.

She is not sincere with that apology, it should have been directed at the Redshirts .

what goes around comes around

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From what I've been reading today, the international committee chair doesn't care of she's sorry or not ... if she had made such comments in her past then she is ineligible to participate, and she knew this before she joined ... she's admitted she's said these things so she will very shortly be officially disqualified and The runner up will be crowned in her place ... kind of fitting really.

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Getting a bit fundamental when a miss world contestant says uber stupid things like this.

so when shes interviewed and has to describe her loving personality and care of others etc etc as a worthy contender hows that fit in with her hate rubbish ?

Stupid girl just risked herself and left her family wide open to retaliation and blowback... way to go

If anyone thinks its ok to spout this rubbish and promote the belief that a particular group is less than others that is no better than calling all blacks thieves or women unequal.

She clearly dosnt have two brain cells to rub together whatever uni shes in.

As for posters who think shes doing the right thing or being responsible posting on social media her opinions you clearly havnt thought about it or how stupid these comments are... both for herself and her family and possibly others around her.

Sad to see how stupid people can be and how the young just spout anothers rhetoric without thinking.

Actually you are right.. we have seen the reds gun down kids in Trad and gloat about it at their rally. We seen people who blown a whistle at the ex wife of Taksin get the house of their mom shot up. We seen grenades and deaths at the side of anti government protesters. So yes there is a real danger she put herself in. Reds are in fact real dangerous and so are their supporters.

However sometimes a stand has to be made against bullies like the reds and Taksin.

p.s. in my opinion the execution remark was certainly stupid, if that was really made.

You forgot the word "Possibly Some" just like everything, there are always some bad apples even leaders but it dosnt apply to the vast majority of any group and should use the word here "possibly" because no one has ever been caught doing these grenade attacks it could easily be agent provocateurs.... it dosnt mean all red that people like to keep trying to sell

Really if your trying to say that just because of a political colour support all are bad or dangerous or bullies etc etc that would apply to the majority of Thais.

What are you even doing in a country full of these kind of people then ??? theres literally tens of millions of them... you should question your sanity or common sense to choose to reside in such a country with such a proportion of bad people IF that is the case... which we all know its not.

You honestly think a political colour defines ones morals or actions here ?

People really need to be careful what they say and what they spout, they rarely actually mean it literally but cant help lumping all in the same box ... it makes them feel better and makes the group hated on easier to de humanise.

If you judge people based on general terms such as all blacks or all jews or all women or all Cambodians or .........all red ... you are not only stereo typing which is wrong but also promoting separatism self promoting false elitism and attempting to or helping to de humanise a certain group in order to make yourself somehow feel superior or "not like them"

Truth is your exactly like them, probably 99.9% of them same concerns same thoughts all eat crap and die etc etc but the last thing people wish is to be the same as everyone else...people would rather feel superior, if your not special then thats a blow to the ego....the next best thing is to look down on another group you arnt involved with and demonise them, so we have football teams, gangs, tribes, nations, north and south, religion etc and when all that fails as an excuse to try and look down on others not sharing the same traits people use race or sex or colour.

Its all the same intolerance and discrimination, we should be past that, if your educated, western and can reason then it should be quite easy to avoid making this mistake, especially as farang with it thrown in our faces every day here all around us.

There really isnt any excuse, discrimination and the role it plays in the abuse of others is very big. Just because the Thais do it, does not mean you have to when you should know better and know your history.

I base my opinion on facts and it is a fact that almost all of the victims of violence were anti government and even some kids. Then in a big meeting on stage (video evidence) it was shown red leaders gloating over it (until they realized the PR disaster and were silenced)

So no, I don't think that reds and their supporters are that great i think they are in general less educated and more violent as yellow supporters and I got facts to back it up.

I have often in my posts said I am against violence, but very few of the red posters here have ever condemned the deaths of all the anti government protesters. So do i feel morally superior to those.

Your nice tirade about generalization could have been written by me and I agree, but I don't see the point in constantly making exceptions and saying some reds could be good ect. I am not the only one here that just does not happen in political discussions and especially not here.

Please provide details of any anti government protests anywhere in the world where the majority of physical casualties were on the government side. Perhaps it would upset you greatly if the Thai government (in this case) had taken a much harder and forceful attitude, or god forbid, the solution as proposed by this woman.

One thing white skin, can never hide, is a heart 'see dahm'.

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Beauty Queen Apologises For "Dirty Reds" Remark

By Khaosod English

BANGKOK — The winner of Miss Universe Thailand has apologised for the hateful comments she posted about pro-government Redshirts on social media.

Weluree "Fai" Ditsayabut, 22, said on a Channel 3 talk show this morning that she is distressed by the wave of criticism her posts have generated.

"It is still fortunate that I have people around to cheer me up," she told talk show host Sorayut Suthasanajinda.

Hours after Ms. Weluree was crowned winner of the popular Miss Universe Thailand beauty pageant on Saturday night, it was quickly discovered that she had a history of publishing disparaging comments about Redshirts on Facebook and Twitter.

In one particularly harsh comment from November, Ms. Werulee described the Redshirts as "anti-monarchy," "dirty" "evils" who should be "executed."

In an interview this morning, Ms. Werulee confirmed that despite the uproar her comments have caused, she will not concede the pageant crown. She explained that she intended the remarks for "a circle of close friends," and not members of the public.

"I was careless. I was young. I did it recklessly," Ms. Werulee said, adding that she has learned a lesson from the incident and that she intends to use all the criticism she has received to improve herself.

"It won't happen again. Let me apologise to all the fans of the pageant, and to all Thais," said Miss Universe Thailand 2014.

Speaking after Ms. Werulee, beauty pageant runner-up Pimbongkod "Ellie" Chankaew denied rumours that she cried on stage out of bitterness when judges announced Ms. Werulee as the winner.

When judges annouced Ms. Wurlee as the winner, many of Ms. Pimbongkod's disappointed fans cheered her name instead.

"At that moment, I was so glad and overwhelmed by the people who loudly cheered for me," Ms. Pimbongkod said. Ms. Pimbongkod, who was raised in the United States, said she never expected to come this far in the tournament.

"I didn't expect that someone from a foreign country and virtually unknown [to the Thais] would receive so much support," Ms. Pimbongkod said. "I thought Thai people dislike those who don't speak Thai well. That's why I cried. I wasn't upset. I accept the judges' verdict."

Source: http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1400481823

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-- Khaosod English 2014-05-19

US raised girl who like to "executed" people for their political belief.

What a typical American.

You weren't brainwashed in school where you that anyone not from Thailand is bad and evil or were you brought up in North Korea.

If you read the new story again you will see you have a mistaken identity.

By the way I am not American

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She's right up there with the beer heiress for public relations disaster of the year award. I wonder if she might have some "dirty" secrets of her own that could surface. Might be attractive but definitely behind the door when the brains were handed out.

Way behind the door. They said brains she thought it was trains and kept her seat. This is woman with deep problems. Very poor management or none at all.

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Huh? "......Whether it was a mistake, stupidity or because of evil intentions, we shall never know but it was totally, completely of Cambodian origin, by Khmers......." Are you sane? We will never know the origin of this but we accuse the Khmers? And yes, public excuses have been made. After the Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh got thrown with objects and hundreds of angry Cambodians present. You are over creative in your defence. Celebrities should at least try to play a model role in society and drumming up sentences as "They should all be executed" followed by "sorry sorry, sorry, I am only 22 and haven't seen anything yet outside the K Bar" would be a bore if it wasn't so incredible inhuman to say. It just proofs again how High So's think and the gap in Thai society will never be narrowed with a young generation of this kind of Abhisit alikes.

No Thai including Kob said anything about Angkor Wat, good or bad. Ever. The report she said something was made up, it did not happen. No Thai official, embassy or government uttered excuses, public or otherwise.

It has nothing to do with a defence. The FACT is that Thais had nothing to do with starting that riot in Phnom Penh. It was a rumour that started a mob that turned into a full-scale anti-Thai, anti-Thailand riot. Yes, show business people often say really, really stupid, mostly because they are really dumb. But in the case of the Cambodian anti-Thai riots, no movie star said anything dumb at all.

Please do not take this urban legend any further. This is 2014 for heaven's sake. You can consult hundreds if not thousands of sources and determine what happened. No matter what one you read you will NOT find one where any Thai including Kob said anything about Angkor Wat, in any manner.

You could prove me wrong by providing a source that says otherwise. But of course you can't. Your memory doesn't count. Neither does mine. You can PROVE a movie star started that, or you can withdraw your foolish urban legend about that very unfortunate 2003 riot in Cambodia. Your memory is wrong. Please don't try to further this story further.

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Yeah sure. I should not drag this story on because it is 2014......but the Khmers created it although no origin has ever been found. If you go ahead with your insuniations and in the mean time ask posters to back of. Are you a Narcist?

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Yeah sure. I should not drag this story on because it is 2014......but the Khmers created it although no origin has ever been found. If you go ahead with your insuniations and in the mean time ask posters to back of. Are you a Narcist?

You can prove I'm wrong and I won't hurt you. Don't be afraid, baby. Go ahead, you don't have to cry. Three ridiculous, really crazy posts and not a shred of proof. Here, try these. After you spit on them, be sure to post the proof these posts are invented and you have posts proving they're wrong and I'm wrong. And like I say, I promise I won't hurt you.

Circulated by word-of-mouth through Cambodia for months, [the actress'] alleged remarks were first reported by the Cambodian media on January 18 in a small pro-government newspaper, Reaksmei Angkor. We have seen no independent confirmation of these remarks, and she denied making them. On January 27, Prime Minister Hun Sen commented in a widely televised public ceremony that Suwanan was not even worth the "blades of grass" at Angkor Wat. Student demonstrators later quoted Hun Sen's remarks as justification for their activities.
- US State Department, report to Congress
Cambodia apologized and offered compensation today for a riot that damaged the Thai Embassy and severely strained relations with its neighbor.
Cambodia's government apologized and said it would pay compensation ''quickly and unconditionally'' for damage caused to the Thai Embassy and its staff.
The violence was sparked by Cambodian news reports -- which turned out to be based on rumors -- that a Thai television actress had suggested that Cambodia's famed Angkor temple complex, a national symbol, is on land that should be part of Thailand.
- New York Times
The seeds of the crisis were sown on January 18 when a small Cambodian newspaper, Rasmei Angkor (Light of Angkor), reported that a Thai soap opera actor, Suwanan Kongying, had said she would not perform again in Cambodia until the famed Angkor Wat temple complex - the national symbol depicted on Cambodia's flag - was returned to Thailand.
The editor of Rasmei Angkor admitted yesterday that the story had been printed unverified. But the story was picked up by other media and repeated without checking.
The Guardian
The owner and operator of the popular Beehive Radio station, Mom Sonando, was arrested and imprisoned after anti-Thai riots of January 2003, as was "Rasmei Angkor" Editor-in-Chief In Chan Sivutha. The (Cambodian) journalists, who were arrested without warrants, were charged with criminal incitement and "incitement to discrimination".
Human Rights Watch
Analysts said it was unclear what really prompted the rioting, though Cambodian politicians may have been hoping to stir up nationalist sentiment ahead of July elections.
- BBC
Over to you, silly person. If you prove somehow that all of the above are false, I'll immediately admit it. My only mission here is to halt really stupid and unnecessary urban legends. If you're right and I'm wrong, fine. On the other hand, if I'm right and you're wrong, that's the way it is. This is all recent and verifiable. So verify your version or just admit you are a rumour monger and give up. You won't be the last, unfortunately.
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