Suthep freed on bail for charges relating to 2010 killings

[moe666]

I wonder if they've all been told to back away from the limelight, and take a back seat whilst the Military does it job, after all he did say, on numerous occasions that once it was all over, he'd step away from politics .. ??

He will take a page out of Big Ts play book and keep on playing, that will give you guys something to moan and groan about

[taiwanatoa]

"He is missing the Cheshire Cat grin that appears in so many of his press photos."

No, you mean that shark is missing that crocodile smile of his!

[taiwanatoa]

Trust me. Nothing is going to happen to Suthep and his gang. The army is on the same side with them. This is just a show. This is their definition of the word 'neutral'. Just wait and see.

That's right. The Yellows and their corrupt cops and military official leaders obviously just want to take over the government. So many Thais ( and foreigners here too) are so damned gullible to fall for these gangsters and their talk of Democracy.

[tullynagardy]

[kurtgruen]

These were trumped charges, and hopefully he and Abhisit will soon get their day in court and walk free, as for the insurrection I think he is guilty, but some how I think he will get of lightly.

As for the unlawful killing I can see a number of Red Shirt and PTP leaders including many of the Shinawatra's and Chalerm doing long time.

Yes, you are right, Basil, he is guilty of insurrection. This makes him a hero in my eyes. He stood up against Thaksin's powerful money machine and achieved what he aimed to achieve. I think, Probation, for the Insurrection charge, would be appropriate, since they can't really give him a medal of honor, without enraging the red hordes.

Amazing man, as I have always said. At his age, he had the energy to do all those marches, smiling all day, waving, spending long days at the demonstration sites, having to live with the fear of knowing that at any time he or his family could get killed. Like I said, a hero in my eyes.

[moe666]

This whole bail thing is just a Thai attempt at humor they know how sensitive the red supporters here on Thaivisa are to fairness in all things they are just getting your goat boys.

[northernjohn]

I wonder if they've all been told to back away from the limelight, and take a back seat whilst the Military does it job, after all he did say, on numerous occasions that once it was all over, he'd step away from politics .. ??

I don't think it is going to be easy for him to stay in the back ground with the trumped up charges the PTP leveled at him and Abhist also the treason charges.

It is a sad thing to see a man who has done so much for this country in getting rid of the evil government to be treated the way he has been treated by the trumped up charges. the man is a hero.

I am not saying he would have been a dictator or even had hopes of being Prime Minister just getting rid of the Shinawatra mafia makes him a national hero. Unfortunately it will take Thailand years to educate the people to the point where they understand that corruption is the wrong way to run a government. That the governments main job is to look after the welfare of it's citizens not white wash criminals because you are related to them or they have paid you huge sums of money. Also to hire competent people to do the job not relatives.

No matter what they do to him now they can not take away the great feat he has accomplished. I do believe it was time for him to step down his job was done a job no one else could have done. Maybe with this no nonsense new government he will get the credit he deserves. It looks like some of the corrupt people in the old government are in for some jail time.

[northernjohn]

Trust me. Nothing is going to happen to Suthep and his gang. The army is on the same side with them. This is just a show. This is their definition of the word 'neutral'. Just wait and see.

That's right. The Yellows and their corrupt cops and military official leaders obviously just want to take over the government. So many Thais ( and foreigners here too) are so damned gullible to fall for these gangsters and their talk of Democracy.

Speaking of gullible how do you figure killing innocent children and beating up old monks is Democracy. This is exactly what the red shirts have done. They talk about raising an army of 600,000 is that Democracy when the government already has an army? Do you even have the remotest ideas of what Democracy is. You are completely reliant on a the raving lunatic clown Jatuporn for information.

When the Army turns the government back over to the people it will no longer be possible to have a dictatorship such as we have had with Thaksin. Cowering in his sand castle. I know the red shirts had a school on what Democracy was and sent the graduate s to Bangkok to burn it down. Have they got a school for gullible and sending the graduates to Thai Visa?

All by it's self the rice scam should have been enough to bring the government down. But it was just the tip of the iceberg.

[northernjohn]

How long do you think 600,000 baht will keep him in the country? My guess is that it's a drop in the bucket for him.

Guess again. He is in debt.

[northernjohn]

You're not smiling, you're not smiling, you're not smiling anymore! You're not smiling anymore!

Congratulations

For a red shirt that is a pretty intelligent post. Says nothing but doesn't lie well done. I see a bright future for you with the red shirts.

[anotheruser]

600,000 baht is petty cash to Suthep. It's amazing how low the bail is for the 'hi-so' Thais no matter how serious the charge is. Whenever a Farang has to post bail it's several million..

There are probably legal maximums and guidelines for bail. A foreigner is a greater flight risk, and often impossible to extradite if they go to their home country - hence the greater bail amount. A Thais passport can be cancelled and their assets frozen, and family/friends used for relocating a run away. Common sense really.

Really? Common sense? How do you think the families of the victims feel?

A person's life in Thailand apparently has a value. This value for a life has been set by the court to be 600,000 / 98, or approximately 6,122 Baht (US$200) each.

So go tell each of the families that their deceased loved one is worth a mere pittance. Let's see how common sense is greeted then.

IMO, the court erred (again, as usual) by granting bail.

I am sure somebody would take you up and do that for $10 a person. It has to beat teaching English.

[issanaus]

Suthep is free on bail. Charges were laid with enough evidence to subject that there was a case to answer. The courts have granted bail and now he has the free time to work on his defence. Until he is convicted he is innocent and the fact is that if he had been held it would have negatively impacted on his ability to defend himself. Therefor he is in much the same position as all the other on both sides of the political divide. I am sure that in line with Thai practices he will be able to delay his trail .....

However the General has said that everyone with charges have to face court ... My speculation is that those who are convicted or who have not had their matters dealt with may find themselves excluded from politics under what ever reforms the General has in mind before the elections and handover to civilian rule in the future.

If most of the politicians who have been around for the last few years were to ne excluded from politics I would not be at all upset.

[tullynagardy]

How long do you think 600,000 baht will keep him in the country? My guess is that it's a drop in the bucket for him.

Guess again. He is in debt.

your ignorance knows no bounds

-When he was Agriculture Minister in 1995, he sold and gave away to his wealthy friends Land Reform plots in Phuket meant for needy local people. This scandal brought down the entire government he represented. He escaped prosecution because of his political connections, bribery, and...wait for it...paying protesters to march in the streets of Bangkok. The only democratically-elected Democrat in dozens of years, Chuan Leekpai, lost power because of Suthep's corruption.

-In 2009 when he was on the National Police Commission, he openly accepted large bribes for police postings and shot down the posting of more deserving officers who refused to pay him, including nominees from his own party's Prime Minister. The same year, he was investigated by the Election Commission for illegally owning equity in media companies with government contracts, in violation of the Constitution. He avoided prosecution by resigning from Parliament, but kept his post of Deputy Prime Minister.

-Later in 2011 when he was National Palm Oil Policy Committee Chairman, he helped orchestrate a phony shortage of the commodity to force up prices more than 50%. He and his family made a fortune from the increase in price, as they are major players in the palm oil industry and huge landowners. He also pocketed kickbacks from other major producers in the South.

and you think this guy is poor!? I genuinely pity the brainless idiots like yourself on here who love this guy. Hating Thaskin is one thing, loving this pondlife is quite another

Edited May 26, 2014 by tullynagardy

[Skywalker69]

Hes still got a whistle round his neck. What a moron

Well he blow Yingluck off the throne.

[chooka]

He is missing the Cheshire Cat grin that appears in so many of his press photos.

That was my first thought. The lowlife should be rotting in a cell and not walking around on bail.

[Tokay]

As if nothing ever happened. Imagine that.

[AlphMichaels]

So far the scorecard looks pretty even.

[rebelplatoon]

Still seems pretty fair following up on loose ends on both sides of the divide.

[mojorison]

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Has he ever changed that shirt, it seems he wearing it in very picture you see of him.

I am surprised you bother to look at very picture of a man you claim to dislike so much.

Just because it's the same colour does not mean it's the same one. I see all the university girls wearing what appears to be the same tight white shirt with the buttons straining to hold it together every day but I do think maybe they put on a clean one every day.

Karma can be a bitch but it always get's ya, if not this time, next time

Only charged. He will not be convicted as you know there is no evidence to support the charges.

I was wondering about that myself.

[northernjohn]

How long do you think 600,000 baht will keep him in the country? My guess is that it's a drop in the bucket for him.

Guess again. He is in debt.

your ignorance knows no bounds

-When he was Agriculture Minister in 1995, he sold and gave away to his wealthy friends Land Reform plots in Phuket meant for needy local people. This scandal brought down the entire government he represented. He escaped prosecution because of his political connections, bribery, and...wait for it...paying protesters to march in the streets of Bangkok. The only democratically-elected Democrat in dozens of years, Chuan Leekpai, lost power because of Suthep's corruption.

-In 2009 when he was on the National Police Commission, he openly accepted large bribes for police postings and shot down the posting of more deserving officers who refused to pay him, including nominees from his own party's Prime Minister. The same year, he was investigated by the Election Commission for illegally owning equity in media companies with government contracts, in violation of the Constitution. He avoided prosecution by resigning from Parliament, but kept his post of Deputy Prime Minister.

-Later in 2011 when he was National Palm Oil Policy Committee Chairman, he helped orchestrate a phony shortage of the commodity to force up prices more than 50%. He and his family made a fortune from the increase in price, as they are major players in the palm oil industry and huge landowners. He also pocketed kickbacks from other major producers in the South.

and you think this guy is poor!? I genuinely pity the brainless idiots like yourself on here who love this guy. Hating Thaskin is one thing, loving this pondlife is quite another

Do try to keep up all the major players had their assets posted a few months back. Suthep was the only one with less assets than money he owed.

Try to stick to the reality not your misguided biased sense of politics. Or what you think happened in the past. The records clearly show he is in the hole.

[Pralaad]

Now his tried how troops sleep, so it would be fair that he learned how prisoners sleep too. That would be karma...

I guess you do not know who his wife is;)

[northernjohn]

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Has he ever changed that shirt, it seems he wearing it in very picture you see of him.

I am surprised you bother to look at very picture of a man you claim to dislike so much.

Just because it's the same colour does not mean it's the same one. I see all the university girls wearing what appears to be the same tight white shirt with the buttons straining to hold it together every day but I do think maybe they put on a clean one every day.

Karma can be a bitch but it always get's ya, if not this time, next time

Only charged. He will not be convicted as you know there is no evidence to support the charges.

I was wondering about that myself.

This is one time when Suthep's Karma has paid of big time for the betterment of Thailand. I am surprised you admit it binjalin

[Eric Loh]

Without his bodyguards and supporters surrounding him, once fearless leader reduced to a soft lump and smirk off his face. The bail amount is too meagre to reflect the serious crimes he committed. He can't bail as no democractic country will accept him.

[Manbing]

As I recall. There was a televised debated which negotiated a resolution to the 2010 protests. The redshirts reneged on their promises to end the process and the government used the military to remove the protesters. Who clearly stated they would fight to maintain control of the area.

I can't see any charges would stand up in court, since they were bought by the last government.

[djjamie]

How long do you think 600,000 baht will keep him in the country? My guess is that it's a drop in the bucket for him.

Guess again. He is in debt.

Thats correct.

In 2012 the NACC released their yearly asset declarations. Suthep had more debt that assets. 347 million and 210 million respectively.

In 2014 the DSI froze his remaining assets which left him with 323 million in debt.

Not sure if his assets are still frozen, but either way he still has more debt than assets.

Edited May 27, 2014 by djjamie

[Mr Yim]

Nothing more than a charade. The only way Suthep and Abhisit will be convicted is if the coup is over thrown.

[Mr Yim]

How long do you think 600,000 baht will keep him in the country? My guess is that it's a drop in the bucket for him.

Guess again. He is in debt.

Thats correct.

In 2012 the NACC released their yearly asset declarations. Suthep had more debt that assets. 347 million and 210 million respectively.

In 2014 the DSI froze his remaining assets which left him with 323 million in debt.

Not sure if his assets are still frozen, but either way he still has more debt than assets.

[Prbkk]

How long do you think 600,000 baht will keep him in the country? My guess is that it's a drop in the bucket for him.

Guess again. He is in debt.

Thats correct.

In 2012 the NACC released their yearly asset declarations. Suthep had more debt that assets. 347 million and 210 million respectively.

In 2014 the DSI froze his remaining assets which left him with 323 million in debt.

Not sure if his assets are still frozen, but either way he still has more debt than assets.

and

Oh, the poor guy is on his uppers? Still managed to spend the last 6 months in the comfort of the IC and DT. Some creative accounting going on

[NanLaew]

These were trumped charges, and hopefully he and Abhisit will soon get their day in court and walk free, as for the insurrection I think he is guilty, but some how I think he will get of lightly.

As for the unlawful killing I can see a number of Red Shirt and PTP leaders including many of the Shinawatra's and Chalerm doing long time.

What? You mean these trumped up charges got trumped by the trumped up charges against Thaksin already?

[oldsailor35]

Criminal Court grants bail for Suthep in 2010 protest crackdown-related case, accepts Bt600,000 as bail bond, return home promptly /MCOT

No problem there, he has still got the money he "supposedly" collected for the rice farmers. I doubt if anyone will ever know exactly how much !