Morals right and wrong as to dog poisoning

[BigC]

It it legal ?

Should it be legal?

Is it morally wrong ?

To put poison on your own land to stop stray dogs coming onto your own land where they crap everywhere, the owners don't seem to care and cause problem to other residents

I am not saying poison should be laid on the borders as that is a bit harsh but deep inside your land where you have made it very clear that no dogs are aloud

It seems harsh as it is not the dogs fault but to I have any rights of my own

To make sure my kids don't get bite or they pick up dog shit and put it in there eyes

Not being funny but my home is he one place I want to keep safe from the out doors

Just interested in what people have to say

Not going to do this but just interested on where people stand on this as foreigners are very into there dogs and some value them more than people

Then again if a trespasser was to trespass I would like to treat them in the same way

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[Pomthai]

I have three dogs and three kids. Sometimes the dogs crap in the garden. My kids have never picked up dog shit or rubbed it in their eyes.

How about a fence, wall or a gate?

[notmyself]

Poisoning can be rather nasty so perhaps a beaver type trap would be the answer.

Edited June 1, 2014 by notmyself

[David48]

... so perhaps a beaver type trap would be the answer.

I got all excited when you mentioned 'beaver trap' ...

[HeavyDrinker]

Build a fence you cheapskate xxxxxxxxx

Edited June 1, 2014 by Rooo

[T_Dog]

Dog poisoning is rampant in Thailand. My avatar was poisoned last year. Farmers set out rat poison on the edges of their fields, and it is tasty stuff. If they happen to drop a larger batch, or if your dog follows the trail for more, your dog is done. I was not there to witness the death throws, but from what our neighbors said, it was one of the most painful deaths imaginable. If I knew the person that had done it, there would certainly have been repercussions. It was a very harsh lesson that you can not let a dog free range in Thailand, not even a meter over your property line. Poison is readily available, and there is no moral conscience in using it.

[thailiketoo]

Adopt a soi dog. You won't feel so depressed and angry and your dog will keep the others away.

[HeavyDrinker]

Poisoning, unless you are have a in depth knowledge of poisons is a cruel and painful way to kill a dog or any living creature for that matter. To even consider doing it to something which is not even a real threat to you or your kids makes me think you a disturbed individual.

[Rooo]

Poisoning, unless you are have a in depth knowledge of poisons is a cruel and painful way to kill a dog or any living creature for that matter. To even consider doing it to something which is not even a real threat to you or your kids makes me think you a disturbed individual.

Please read the OP's post, he says:

Not going to do this but just interested on where people stand on this as foreigners are very into there dogs and some value them more than people

[David48]

BigC, have a read of this thread over in the Farming Forum ... http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/717164-village-justice/

The OP is a Mod here, a really nice bloke, he had a similiar issue and interesting to read some of the responses

[neverdie]

Poisoning, unless you are have a in depth knowledge of poisons is a cruel and painful way to kill a dog or any living creature for that matter. To even consider doing it to something which is not even a real threat to you or your kids makes me think you a disturbed individual.

Please read the OP's post, he says:

Not going to do this but just interested on where people stand on this as foreigners are very into there dogs and some value them more than people

Roo,

It can never hurt to mention how cruel this process is. Animal suffer in agony when poisoned this way, I've seen it often and it saddens me greatly.

[Mole]

This is a topic a lot of people get very emotional about. There is really no point in "discussing" it since people already have their feelings about it and it's not gonna change anything. It's like discussing religion with the religious. Waste of time.

In the end, it's your own property and you're entitled to do whatever you like. Just do whatever and shut your mouth about it.

[Rooo]

Poisoning, unless you are have a in depth knowledge of poisons is a cruel and painful way to kill a dog or any living creature for that matter. To even consider doing it to something which is not even a real threat to you or your kids makes me think you a disturbed individual.

Please read the OP's post, he says:

Not going to do this but just interested on where people stand on this as foreigners are very into there dogs and some value them more than people

Roo,

It can never hurt to mention how cruel this process is. Animal suffer in agony when poisoned this way, I've seen it often and it saddens me greatly.

I never advocated poisoning dogs, i simply refereed to the OP's statement & topic title.

[332]

I prefer the .22 method.

[neverdie]

I never advocated poisoning dogs, i simply refereed to the OP's statement & topic title.

No mate, I'm not suggesting you did, but it's nice just to make sure that people realise that it's a very unpleasant death.

None of these soi dogs asked to be born.

It's a <deleted> situation for the OP. He needs to consider a fence or his own dog to protect it's territory. Giving a home to a rescue dog for this purpose would be a WIN/WIN.

Edit to say: Subject title of thread wanted the morals of the situation.....there u have it. Do bad, get bad !

Edited June 1, 2014 by neverdie

[notmyself]

Other option would be a moat, lining the perimeter with a canine version of anti-personal mines or one of these....

[mrtoad]

I never advocated poisoning dogs, i simply refereed to the OP's statement & topic title.

No mate, I'm not suggesting you did, but it's nice just to make sure that people realise that it's a very unpleasant death.

None of these soi dogs asked to be born.

It's a <deleted> situation for the OP. He needs to consider a fence or his own dog to protect it's territory. Giving a home to a rescue dog for this purpose would be a WIN/WIN.

Edit to say: Subject title of thread wanted the morals of the situation.....there u have it. Do bad, get bad !

Agreed ND, you and HD made very valid points. Poisoning is cruel. We have numerous problems with stray dogs coming onto our land, we often spend ages trying to catch the dogs so we can send them to the temple. Other than building a fence that covers 27 rai, which is not going to happen this will continue, as much as the strays are a pest.

[neverdie]

I never advocated poisoning dogs, i simply refereed to the OP's statement & topic title.

No mate, I'm not suggesting you did, but it's nice just to make sure that people realise that it's a very unpleasant death.

None of these soi dogs asked to be born.

It's a <deleted> situation for the OP. He needs to consider a fence or his own dog to protect it's territory. Giving a home to a rescue dog for this purpose would be a WIN/WIN.

Edit to say: Subject title of thread wanted the morals of the situation.....there u have it. Do bad, get bad !

Agreed ND, you and HD made very valid points. Poisoning is cruel. We have numerous problems with stray dogs coming onto our land, we often spend ages trying to catch the dogs so we can send them to the temple. Other than building a fence that covers 27 rai, which is not going to happen this will continue, as much as the strays are a pest.

It's not just your Island MRTOAD, it's the whole of Thailand. Not the dogs fault, the people are to blame.

I'm not knocking the OP, I am sympathetic as I've also experienced problems with aggressive dogs etc.

[nod]

I suppose it all depends whether you believe your actions on Earth will decide whether you manage to get through the Pearly Gates or not.

[BigC]

I have three dogs and three kids. Sometimes the dogs crap in the garden. My kids have never picked up dog shit or rubbed it in their eyes.

How about a fence, wall or a gate?

Understood but I don't see why I have to build a huge wall due to other people not locking up their own dogs unless they want to build or for me

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[BigC]

Build a fence you cheapskate xxxxxxxxx

You build me one around 2 rai of land

I am not responsible for other people dogs wondering on my land the owners are

Why should I have to pay because owners don't want to take responsibility for their animals

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[BigC]

Dog poisoning is rampant in Thailand. My avatar was poisoned last year. Farmers set out rat poison on the edges of their fields, and it is tasty stuff. If they happen to drop a larger batch, or if your dog follows the trail for more, your dog is done. I was not there to witness the death throws, but from what our neighbors said, it was one of the most painful deaths imaginable. If I knew the person that had done it, there would certainly have been repercussions. It was a very harsh lesson that you can not let a dog free range in Thailand, not even a meter over your property line. Poison is readily available, and there is no moral conscience in using it.

I agree that putting poison on the edge of ones land is too harsh and even on a dog lead the dog can eat sown rubbish on the side of the road which is not fare to the dog or the owner

But berried far back where I a have told the owners who do have a femme and hate which is always unlocked and they jump into my place over the walls

That enough is enough

They crap everywhere and my customers are complaining

So if my customers move out then shall the people next door pay for the rent I lose per month

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[BigC]

Poisoning, unless you are have a in depth knowledge of poisons is a cruel and painful way to kill a dog or any living creature for that matter. To even consider doing it to something which is not even a real threat to you or your kids makes me think you a disturbed individual. [/quot

So u have missed my point completely

I am trying to understand people's opinions on this and I knew some &lt;deleted&gt; would have ago at me

I don't harm creatures or people unless they are a threat to me or my business or family

Tell me his why should I have to pick up my neighbours dog shit every morning

Why should I build a wall as it is east to call someone a cheap Charlie yet normally these people who use those words are the cheapest of Charlie's

The owners are reasonable as if they cannot protect their animals and do the right thing by picking up their litter

And they are the ones who should wall them

In not me as I did not buy the dog

As for a street dog personally I reckon they should all be put down as they chase bikes bite people and heir life's would be better off dead

Mix that with the cars and motorbikes they shall hit during their short lives

I am not disturbed I am just a person. That faces reality and has to do the jobs that people don't want to do but need to be done then moan when it's not done properly

Ok I have a suggestion

Building my wall for free ( I don't want a cheap Charlie to bills it I want a nice posh wall )

I am not going to adopt a soi dog to get ride of other dogs that is madness

I like beavers but not Justin beaver

And yes I am disturbed but what going to do about it build me a wall!??

Shall I just build a dog sanctity just to prove I am not tight and give all my money to dog rescue and poor farmers

Corr Jesus checky basterd calling me tight

Non rally only tight people call people that in order to her down thorn out of that person

Don't own a building company by any chance do U??

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Edited June 1, 2014 by BigC

[Bernard Flint]

Not all dogs are soi dogs. A responsible dog owner may leave a door open and the dog gets out accidentaly.

[neverdie]

I suppose it all depends whether you believe your actions on Earth will decide whether you manage to get through the Pearly Gates or not.

It might matter to you old mate but it makes no difference to me, it's more about another living being suffering I imaginable pain and all because some t w a t (not the OP) has objected to something relatively minor.

If you really must kill something, make it am instant death, doesn't make it right but if there's no suffering involved, you've moved through the ranks of killers to at least a considerate one.

[neverdie]

Build a fence you cheapskate xxxxxxxxx

You build me one around 2 rai of land

I am not responsible for other people dogs wondering on my land the owners are

Why should I have to pay because owners don't want to take responsibility for their animals

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Big C,

I understand how you feel. For example, I sometimes feel annoyed when I get caught in the traffic behind bus loads of foreigners and imports into my country, it's costing me time and life, I don't want to pay but apparently I'm not allowed to start gassing them or cutting their heads off. I have to find another way, or just suck it up.

I'm wondering what your wife thinks. Besides the fact you think too much.

As a tip, we found we only had to fence one portion of our land to cut down on the soi dogs and the main entrance is across a bridge and there's a cranky adopted soi dog that guards that in earnest. If you must, slingshot small rocks at their behinds, they soon learn that your not a dog lover and keep clear. It's not normally thousands of new passing dogs every week, it's the same ones......they're not stupid, they'll figure you out.

[neverdie]

I am not going to adopt a soi dog to get ride of other dogs that is madness

Madness?

[rhythmworx]

You could build a cheap electric fence around the perimeter.

Non lethal to the dogs, effective and costs little to build, you just need to recharge the car batteries every now and again.

[pitchag]

Buy yourself an air rifle and ping the buggers on the backside every time they come on your land, they soon get the message and avoid places that give them pain, and it can be quite enjoyable too very relaxing target shooting

[TPI]

After having had my chief dog poisoned and after the trauma of nursing him back to health I posted the following notice on all of the fences around my property........

"IF I CATCH YOU I WILL FEED YOU YOUR OWN BAIT"....seems to have done the trick! Fence your property!