Thai police upset by US human trafficking report

[thewug]

Hate to defended the Americans. But if someone went into a police station and made a report about human trafficking there would be so many police officers and social welfare at that location. But here the Thai police would just look away or just look for a payout. Sorry. But Thailand doesn't do anything except talk so much.

America prosecutes the victims of trafficking including children, according to the TIP report

http://www.state.gov...tion/226849.pdf

some trafficking victims, including those under

the age of 18 years were reportedly detained or prosecuted for

criminal activity related to their being trafficked, notwithstanding

the federal policy that victims should not be inappropriately

penalized solely for unlawful acts committed as a direct result

of being trafficked

Sorry but I see this in your link. But I'm sure that their are victims that get prosecuted for their actions while being trafficked. Edited June 25, 2014 by thewug

[thewug]

Can see them prosecuting children. Unless they committed murder.

[spidermike007]

They can be upset all they want. Here is the reality, required for them to do the work they are supposed to be doing:

The very concept of actual law enforcement in this country boggles the mind. Imagine the average policeman converting himself from a revenue collection agent, into a law enforcement official? That would be a major transformation, and would benefit the country to no end. What would it take? Here is what it would take, in my opinion:

1. The central government getting serious and committing more money to police reform, than the previous Yingbat committed to the rice pledging scheme. I am estimating it would require a minimum of 15 billion dollars to train, equip, and bring up to iinternational standards, the police department nationwide.

2. Forensics. Billions would have to be spent bringing the police out of the dark ages, when it comes to crime labs, technicians, modern equipment, processing, computer systems, training, etc.

3. Salary. Compensation nationwide would have to double. Currently, from what I am told, the starting salary is around 8,000 to 10,000 baht per month, for the rank and file guys. A Sergeant Major, who has been with the force for 10-15 years, earns about 16,000 per month. I hear many police use money from their own pockets to pay for equipment, as the state is too stingy and misguided, to equip them properly.

4. Overseas training. The only way Thailand is ever going to bring itself up to an international standard, when it comes to detective work, and forensics, is to either train overseas, or bring in experts from overseas to head up the training in the labs, and in the field. Does anyone imagine something like this could ever happen?

I could go on, and on, and on. But, you get the message.

[iphad]

They can be upset all they want. Here is the reality, required for them to do the work they are supposed to be doing:

The very concept of actual law enforcement in this country boggles the mind. Imagine the average policeman converting himself from a revenue collection agent, into a law enforcement official? That would be a major transformation, and would benefit the country to no end. What would it take? Here is what it would take, in my opinion:

1. The central government getting serious and committing more money to police reform, than the previous Yingbat committed to the rice pledging scheme. I am estimating it would require a minimum of 15 billion dollars to train, equip, and bring up to iinternational standards, the police department nationwide.

2. Forensics. Billions would have to be spent bringing the police out of the dark ages, when it comes to crime labs, technicians, modern equipment, processing, computer systems, training, etc.

3. Salary. Compensation nationwide would have to double. Currently, from what I am told, the starting salary is around 8,000 to 10,000 baht per month, for the rank and file guys. A Sergeant Major, who has been with the force for 10-15 years, earns about 16,000 per month. I hear many police use money from their own pockets to pay for equipment, as the state is too stingy and misguided, to equip them properly.

4. Overseas training. The only way Thailand is ever going to bring itself up to an international standard, when it comes to detective work, and forensics, is to either train overseas, or bring in experts from overseas to head up the training in the labs, and in the field. Does anyone imagine something like this could ever happen?

I could go on, and on, and on. But, you get the message.

So if the US who has spent billions on "the War on Drugs" and many probably know how that's worked out

how could Thailand ever expect...or anyone else that the "War on Human Trafficking" can be stopped or curtailed in or from Thailand?

Edited June 27, 2014 by iphad

[ggold]

They are upset because their tea money is disappearing fast. Up country that can make 20,000bht if they catch a Thai farmer with an illegal loa working for them. I know some farmers cross over to Laos specifically to hire workers and bring them back to Thailand to work, and they are not crossing at border checkpoints. They are trafficking.

[spidermike007]

They can be upset all they want. Here is the reality, required for them to do the work they are supposed to be doing:

The very concept of actual law enforcement in this country boggles the mind. Imagine the average policeman converting himself from a revenue collection agent, into a law enforcement official? That would be a major transformation, and would benefit the country to no end. What would it take? Here is what it would take, in my opinion:

1. The central government getting serious and committing more money to police reform, than the previous Yingbat committed to the rice pledging scheme. I am estimating it would require a minimum of 15 billion dollars to train, equip, and bring up to iinternational standards, the police department nationwide.

2. Forensics. Billions would have to be spent bringing the police out of the dark ages, when it comes to crime labs, technicians, modern equipment, processing, computer systems, training, etc.

3. Salary. Compensation nationwide would have to double. Currently, from what I am told, the starting salary is around 8,000 to 10,000 baht per month, for the rank and file guys. A Sergeant Major, who has been with the force for 10-15 years, earns about 16,000 per month. I hear many police use money from their own pockets to pay for equipment, as the state is too stingy and misguided, to equip them properly.

4. Overseas training. The only way Thailand is ever going to bring itself up to an international standard, when it comes to detective work, and forensics, is to either train overseas, or bring in experts from overseas to head up the training in the labs, and in the field. Does anyone imagine something like this could ever happen?

I could go on, and on, and on. But, you get the message.

So if the US who has spent billions on "the War on Drugs" and many probably know how that's worked out

how could Thailand ever expect...or anyone else that the "War on Human Trafficking" can be stopped or curtailed in or from Thailand?

I was not referring to the drug war in the US. Frankly, I think drugs are the last place they should start. I was referring more to traffic safety. And the public safety. The ability for the police to solve serious crimes. The police in the US are pretty damn good at detective work, and forensic work, as they are in the UK too. It has to start somewhere. The blabbering has to stop, and the real work has to begin.

[T_Dog]

Article last month on the background of this issue.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29673120

[DLock]

I have had little exposure to Human Trafficking in Thailand, but I'm sure it exists...

...but I know first hand piracy and counterfeiting exists...because it is in plain view next to almost any police box on Sukhumvit road.

So saying "...the Thai police have also worked hard in combating against counterfeiting and pirated consumer goods to avoid being targeted by international governments which could affect the country’s overall economy." in the same breath that you have made measures against human trafficking can only lead me to believe that human trafficking is much bigger, more obvious and overlooked as buying a pornographic CD, fake Rolex watch or copy Luis Vuitton purse next to one of you police boxes.

​The US aren't as stupid as you might think.

Please try harder.