Mother seeks truth behind son's killing

[Lite Beer]

Mother seeks truth behind son's killing
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The mother of slain protest-rally leader Sutin Tharatin called on the police yesterday to ask about the latest developments and urged for the investigation to be speeded up, especially since there seem to be no results after nine months.

Sutin, leader of the Students and People's Network for Thailand's Reform (STR), was killed while rallying at an advance-polling station in front of Sri Iam temple in Bang Na district in Bangkok on January 26.

His mother Saroj submitted a letter to acting Metropolitan Police chief Pol Lt-General Jakthip Chaijinda, asking for information about the progress of the investigation into her son's death.

Thotsaphon Kaewthima, a fellow STR leader, said the police did not seem to have moved forward in the probe into Sutin's death. He added that an arrest warrant had been issued against an STR member, but said it was impossible that this person killed Sutin as they were both in the same vehicle at the time of the shooting.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Mother-seeks-truth-behind-sons-killing-30237305.html

-- The Nation 2014-06-28

[ClutchClark]

One little piece of lead in one moment in time can result in pain and grief that lasts a lifetime.

[noitom]

Seeking truth in Thailand is a tall order.

[The stuttering parrot]

Seeking the truth anywhere is a tall order!

[clockman]

Seeking truth in Thailand is a tall order.

And getting a conviction, can take 10 years plus?

[chainarong]

I wish the mother well , in her efforts to find some justice in a land, that till now only applies to the wealthy, I think the effort will be a waste of time , the mother would have more success if she approached General Phrayuth, seems like the only course of action.

[NongKhaiKid]

I only passed a maths exam once in all my years in high school and even then accused of cheating BUT Truth plus Thailand is an equation that even Albert couldn't solve.

[Robby nz]

It may be 9 months since his killing but it is only 1 month since the police have been under new management.

In that 1 month there has been more achieved than in the previous 8 so there is hope.

Now who was it that was leading the reds on the day he was killed ?

I remember now, the absconding Ko tee

[Gonzo the Face]

Was the good mother making a prediction for the future??? No results after 9 months...... It must seem like that to her, but January 26 is much closer to 5 months.....

...... on is this just another unchecked, unread ' Nation-ism '

[cup-O-coffee]

It seems the mother should have been the protest rally leader and the son should have stayed at home. Why is she getting all the attention, and so many people jumping at the sound of her voice? Who is this woman? What about the other mom's grieving across the land for more legitimate concerns. I mean, it is not as if her son was not aware of the risk he was taking by stepping into this kind of arena.

[GAZZPA]

Seeking the truth anywhere is a tall order!

Some truth in that, but can't you see the difference between Thailand and other countries? Surely you can, right?

[GAZZPA]

It seems the mother should have been the protest rally leader and the son should have stayed at home. Why is she getting all the attention, and so many people jumping at the sound of her voice? Who is this woman? What about the other mom's grieving across the land for more legitimate concerns. I mean, it is not as if her son was not aware of the risk he was taking by stepping into this kind of arena.

Come on, be reasonable. Whatever his political motives were is not relevant, he was murdered. His mum is doing her parental duty and pushing for justice, how "legitimate" can you get?

If it were my son or daughter I would be doing the same and I think any decent parent would also be doing the same.

[Artisi]

It seems the mother should have been the protest rally leader and the son should have stayed at home. Why is she getting all the attention, and so many people jumping at the sound of her voice? Who is this woman? What about the other mom's grieving across the land for more legitimate concerns. I mean, it is not as if her son was not aware of the risk he was taking by stepping into this kind of arena.

What a truly concerned individual, have another beer or coffee or what ever helps you get thru the rigours of the day.

[londonthai]

"Thotsaphon Kaewthima, a fellow STR leader, said the police did not seem to have moved forward in the probe into Sutin's death. He added that an arrest warrant had been issued against an STR member, but said it was impossible that this person killed Sutin as they were both in the same vehicle at the time of the shooting."

if that's happen it's called "insider's job" or "infighting". There is a strong suspicion, that those some 25 who died during bangkok shutdown were killed in a similar manner. Just for the sake of power hungry elits to depose a democratically elected government. Those are called "collateral damage" in military terms.

some call it a "small price" to rule over 65mln people with gdp of 360bln and feudaly rooted corruption and it's said to pay back to suthep's paymasters within months.

as to the killed guy - he was a leader of violent wing of a thai fascist movement and was shot dead during a violent blockade of polling stations, which lead to cancellation of a general election

Edited June 28, 2014 by londonthai

[khunken]

"Thotsaphon Kaewthima, a fellow STR leader, said the police did not seem to have moved forward in the probe into Sutin's death. He added that an arrest warrant had been issued against an STR member, but said it was impossible that this person killed Sutin as they were both in the same vehicle at the time of the shooting."

if that's happen it's called "insider's job" or "infighting". There is a strong suspicion, that those some 25 who died during bangkok shutdown were killed in a similar manner. Just for the sake of power hungry elits to depose a democratically elected government. Those are called "collateral damage" in military terms.

some call it a "small price" to rule over 65mln people with gdp of 360bln and feudaly rooted corruption and it's said to pay back to suthep's paymasters within months.

as to the killed guy - he was a leader of violent wing of a thai fascist movement and was shot dead during a violent blockade of polling stations, which lead to cancellation of a general election

Total rubbish.

The only 'suspicion' of protestors killing protestors came from CAPO, biased police and people like you posting crap on TV.

The police did not investigate any of the killings until the army got involved. There was even video evidence of the guy being shot and even if your sick description of him were correct, he was shot and that would be sufficient grounds to investigate who was responsible - if there had been a proper law enforcement agency in the country then.

His mother is more than entitled to ask what has happened with the 'investigation' or if there even has been one.

[londonthai]

so if there is a warrant for a suspected killer and a deceased closed aide - why he doesn't come forward and explain his role in the shooting. Instead, he has chosen to hide/run abroad, rather than face the bill. There is an evidence against him, a video which you have mentioned.

the mother of the deceased, Thotsaphon Kaewthima and the other fellow leaders of the thai fascist movement, like suthep, should urge the suspected killer to come forward, rather than blame police for lack of progress in the investigation.

Edited June 28, 2014 by londonthai

[khunken]

so if there is a warrant for a suspected killer and a deceased closed aide - why he doesn't come forward and explain his role in the shooting. Instead, he has chosen to hide/run abroad, rather than face the bill. There is an evidence against him, a video which you have mentioned.

the mother of the deceased, Thotsaphon Kaewthima and the other fellow leaders of the thai fascist movement, like suthep, should urge the suspected killer to come forward, rather than blame police for lack of progress in the investigation.

The warrant is for a police scapegoat who is very unlikely to have anything to do with the activist's death. I don't know where it says that the scapegoat is abroad but, if he is, the time to come back is when the army check out what the police have or haven't done.

The mother is correct in not falling for the police BS and try and prompt them to do a proper job. It's not only lack of progress but lack of any integrity that she's up against.

BTW your continuation of using stupid tags on protestors only reduces any chance of you having any helpful contribution to the mother's plight.

[djjamie]

"Thotsaphon Kaewthima, a fellow STR leader, said the police did not seem to have moved forward in the probe into Sutin's death. He added that an arrest warrant had been issued against an STR member, but said it was impossible that this person killed Sutin as they were both in the same vehicle at the time of the shooting."

if that's happen it's called "insider's job" or "infighting". There is a strong suspicion, that those some 25 who died during bangkok shutdown were killed in a similar manner. Just for the sake of power hungry elits to depose a democratically elected government. Those are called "collateral damage" in military terms.

some call it a "small price" to rule over 65mln people with gdp of 360bln and feudaly rooted corruption and it's said to pay back to suthep's paymasters within months.

as to the killed guy - he was a leader of violent wing of a thai fascist movement and was shot dead during a violent blockade of polling stations, which lead to cancellation of a general election

"as to the killed guy - he was a leader of violent wing of a thai fascist movement

Shows how much you know. He had nothing to do with the UDD and in fact the UDD have been linked to this PTP sanctioned assassination. But that was the logical conclusion anyway.

[fab4]

"Thotsaphon Kaewthima, a fellow STR leader, said the police did not seem to have moved forward in the probe into Sutin's death. He added that an arrest warrant had been issued against an STR member, but said it was impossible that this person killed Sutin as they were both in the same vehicle at the time of the shooting."

if that's happen it's called "insider's job" or "infighting". There is a strong suspicion, that those some 25 who died during bangkok shutdown were killed in a similar manner. Just for the sake of power hungry elits to depose a democratically elected government. Those are called "collateral damage" in military terms.

some call it a "small price" to rule over 65mln people with gdp of 360bln and feudaly rooted corruption and it's said to pay back to suthep's paymasters within months.

as to the killed guy - he was a leader of violent wing of a thai fascist movement and was shot dead during a violent blockade of polling stations, which lead to cancellation of a general election

Total rubbish.

The only 'suspicion' of protestors killing protestors came from CAPO, biased police and people like you posting crap on TV.

The police did not investigate any of the killings until the army got involved. There was even video evidence of the guy being shot and even if your sick description of him were correct, he was shot and that would be sufficient grounds to investigate who was responsible - if there had been a proper law enforcement agency in the country then.

His mother is more than entitled to ask what has happened with the 'investigation' or if there even has been one.

"The police did not investigate any of the killings until the army got involved."

February 10th 2014:

Meanwhile, deputy metropolitan police commander Pol Maj Gen Chayut Thornthaweerat said police are hunting the suspect involved with the killing of Sutin Tharatin, a staunch leading anti-government protester of the People's Army against Thaksin Regime.

Gen Chayut, who supervises the investigation of the case, said the investigation is in progress but the arrest warrant would be sought only after police have substantial evidence and witnesses.

Mr Sutin was shot dead and ten others were injured as they blockaded the advance voting at a polling booth at Wat Sri-eam in Bang Na district on Jan 26.

Gen Chayut said more than 70 witnesses were questioned and police are trying to identify the gunmen. Although photos of several suspects have gone viral on social media sites, the facts have not yet been established, he said.

http://www.mcot.net/site/content?id=52f8aa35be0470321f8b4599#.U66S5dGHEdU

March 18, 2014:

At the same time, arrest warrants were also issued for Thawatchai Phromjan and another man for the fatal shooting of an anti-government leader Sutin Tharatin front of the Wat Sri-iam Temple at Bang Na.

Thawatchai was clearly identified as the man in the bed of a pickup truck that was trailing Mr Sutin’s vehicle while the other unidentified man was clearly seen dressed in jungle camouflage outfit and wielding a firearm in video clips.

The two men are charged with illegal possession and illegal discharge of firearms.

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/warrants-armed-fighters-lak-si-skirmish-bang-na-shooting/

[khunken]

Total rubbish.

The only 'suspicion' of protestors killing protestors came from CAPO, biased police and people like you posting crap on TV.

The police did not investigate any of the killings until the army got involved. There was even video evidence of the guy being shot and even if your sick description of him were correct, he was shot and that would be sufficient grounds to investigate who was responsible - if there had been a proper law enforcement agency in the country then.

His mother is more than entitled to ask what has happened with the 'investigation' or if there even has been one.

"The police did not investigate any of the killings until the army got involved."

February 10th 2014:

Meanwhile, deputy metropolitan police commander Pol Maj Gen Chayut Thornthaweerat said police are hunting the suspect involved with the killing of Sutin Tharatin, a staunch leading anti-government protester of the People's Army against Thaksin Regime.

Gen Chayut, who supervises the investigation of the case, said the investigation is in progress but the arrest warrant would be sought only after police have substantial evidence and witnesses.

Mr Sutin was shot dead and ten others were injured as they blockaded the advance voting at a polling booth at Wat Sri-eam in Bang Na district on Jan 26.

Gen Chayut said more than 70 witnesses were questioned and police are trying to identify the gunmen. Although photos of several suspects have gone viral on social media sites, the facts have not yet been established, he said.

http://www.mcot.net/site/content?id=52f8aa35be0470321f8b4599#.U66S5dGHEdU

March 18, 2014:

At the same time, arrest warrants were also issued for Thawatchai Phromjan and another man for the fatal shooting of an anti-government leader Sutin Tharatin front of the Wat Sri-iam Temple at Bang Na.

Thawatchai was clearly identified as the man in the bed of a pickup truck that was trailing Mr Sutin’s vehicle while the other unidentified man was clearly seen dressed in jungle camouflage outfit and wielding a firearm in video clips.

The two men are charged with illegal possession and illegal discharge of firearms.

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/warrants-armed-fighters-lak-si-skirmish-bang-na-shooting/

Thanks for that. If these police are to be believed they did do some sort of investigation but the question remains - how honest and diligent were the efforts to apprehend real suspects and not scapegoats.

So I'll rephrase my comment: The police made little effort to properly investigate all the killings of protestors and real suspects were not apprehended until the army looked over their shoulder.

BTW I wouldn't rule out an accidental shooting by friendly fire but when CAPO and it's control over the police were involved, the truth tended to go out the window.

[mikemac]

It seems the mother should have been the protest rally leader and the son should have stayed at home. Why is she getting all the attention, and so many people jumping at the sound of her voice? Who is this woman? What about the other mom's grieving across the land for more legitimate concerns. I mean, it is not as if her son was not aware of the risk he was taking by stepping into this kind of arena.

Wow, you must be proud of that heartless and spiteful tirade.

..........................."more legitimate concerns"...............................

Please tell us what could possibly be more "legitimate" than the loss of a son ? After watching my own mother grieve for years over the loss of my brother your words really did hit a nerve.

I am surprised comments like yours are not removed, and you as well.

[tingtongteesood]

Total rubbish.

The only 'suspicion' of protestors killing protestors came from CAPO, biased police and people like you posting crap on TV.

The police did not investigate any of the killings until the army got involved. There was even video evidence of the guy being shot and even if your sick description of him were correct, he was shot and that would be sufficient grounds to investigate who was responsible - if there had been a proper law enforcement agency in the country then.

His mother is more than entitled to ask what has happened with the 'investigation' or if there even has been one.

"The police did not investigate any of the killings until the army got involved."

February 10th 2014:

Meanwhile, deputy metropolitan police commander Pol Maj Gen Chayut Thornthaweerat said police are hunting the suspect involved with the killing of Sutin Tharatin, a staunch leading anti-government protester of the People's Army against Thaksin Regime.

Gen Chayut, who supervises the investigation of the case, said the investigation is in progress but the arrest warrant would be sought only after police have substantial evidence and witnesses.

Mr Sutin was shot dead and ten others were injured as they blockaded the advance voting at a polling booth at Wat Sri-eam in Bang Na district on Jan 26.

Gen Chayut said more than 70 witnesses were questioned and police are trying to identify the gunmen. Although photos of several suspects have gone viral on social media sites, the facts have not yet been established, he said.

http://www.mcot.net/site/content?id=52f8aa35be0470321f8b4599#.U66S5dGHEdU

March 18, 2014:

At the same time, arrest warrants were also issued for Thawatchai Phromjan and another man for the fatal shooting of an anti-government leader Sutin Tharatin front of the Wat Sri-iam Temple at Bang Na.

Thawatchai was clearly identified as the man in the bed of a pickup truck that was trailing Mr Sutin’s vehicle while the other unidentified man was clearly seen dressed in jungle camouflage outfit and wielding a firearm in video clips.

The two men are charged with illegal possession and illegal discharge of firearms.

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/warrants-armed-fighters-lak-si-skirmish-bang-na-shooting/

And were any arrests made ? NO ! If there is some news story I missed that the murderers were arrested, please feel free to share....

All talk and no action.

[mikemac]

But tingtongteesood, he posted links, comments and perhaps there may even be charts on the way !

[snottgoblin]

"Thotsaphon Kaewthima, a fellow STR leader, said the police did not seem to have moved forward in the probe into Sutin's death. He added that an arrest warrant had been issued against an STR member, but said it was impossible that this person killed Sutin as they were both in the same vehicle at the time of the shooting."

if that's happen it's called "insider's job" or "infighting". There is a strong suspicion, that those some 25 who died during bangkok shutdown were killed in a similar manner. Just for the sake of power hungry elits to depose a democratically elected government. Those are called "collateral damage" in military terms.

some call it a "small price" to rule over 65mln people with gdp of 360bln and feudaly rooted corruption and it's said to pay back to suthep's paymasters within months.

as to the killed guy - he was a leader of violent wing of a thai fascist movement and was shot dead during a violent blockade of polling stations, which lead to cancellation of a general election

Dross

[Bluespunk]

It seems the mother should have been the protest rally leader and the son should have stayed at home. Why is she getting all the attention, and so many people jumping at the sound of her voice? Who is this woman? What about the other mom's grieving across the land for more legitimate concerns. I mean, it is not as if her son was not aware of the risk he was taking by stepping into this kind of arena.

Utter nonsense. Why is her concern less legitimate than anyone else's? Why should this murder go unpunished? Find the scum responsible for this crime and gaol them for a long time.

Edited June 28, 2014 by Bluespunk

[Bluespunk]

"Thotsaphon Kaewthima, a fellow STR leader, said the police did not seem to have moved forward in the probe into Sutin's death. He added that an arrest warrant had been issued against an STR member, but said it was impossible that this person killed Sutin as they were both in the same vehicle at the time of the shooting."

if that's happen it's called "insider's job" or "infighting". There is a strong suspicion, that those some 25 who died during bangkok shutdown were killed in a similar manner. Just for the sake of power hungry elits to depose a democratically elected government. Those are called "collateral damage" in military terms.

some call it a "small price" to rule over 65mln people with gdp of 360bln and feudaly rooted corruption and it's said to pay back to suthep's paymasters within months.

as to the killed guy - he was a leader of violent wing of a thai fascist movement and was shot dead during a violent blockade of polling stations, which lead to cancellation of a general election

I disagree with every single "point" you make.

Edited June 28, 2014 by Bluespunk

[tingtongteesood]

"Thotsaphon Kaewthima, a fellow STR leader, said the police did not seem to have moved forward in the probe into Sutin's death. He added that an arrest warrant had been issued against an STR member, but said it was impossible that this person killed Sutin as they were both in the same vehicle at the time of the shooting."

if that's happen it's called "insider's job" or "infighting". There is a strong suspicion, that those some 25 who died during bangkok shutdown were killed in a similar manner. Just for the sake of power hungry elits to depose a democratically elected government. Those are called "collateral damage" in military terms.

some call it a "small price" to rule over 65mln people with gdp of 360bln and feudaly rooted corruption and it's said to pay back to suthep's paymasters within months.

as to the killed guy - he was a leader of violent wing of a thai fascist movement and was shot dead during a violent blockade of polling stations, which lead to cancellation of a general election

I disagree with every single "point" you make.

Me too, this red sheeple is seriously deluded. Is that the member formerly known as Pipkins I see ? Seems to be the same level of utter crap being spouted out of his behind....

[londonthai]

"Thotsaphon Kaewthima, a fellow STR leader, said the police did not seem to have moved forward in the probe into Sutin's death. He added that an arrest warrant had been issued against an STR member, but said it was impossible that this person killed Sutin as they were both in the same vehicle at the time of the shooting."

if that's happen it's called "insider's job" or "infighting". There is a strong suspicion, that those some 25 who died during bangkok shutdown were killed in a similar manner. Just for the sake of power hungry elits to depose a democratically elected government. Those are called "collateral damage" in military terms.

some call it a "small price" to rule over 65mln people with gdp of 360bln and feudaly rooted corruption and it's said to pay back to suthep's paymasters within months.

as to the killed guy - he was a leader of violent wing of a thai fascist movement and was shot dead during a violent blockade of polling stations, which lead to cancellation of a general election

"as to the killed guy - he was a leader of violent wing of a thai fascist movement

Shows how much you know. He had nothing to do with the UDD and in fact the UDD have been linked to this PTP sanctioned assassination. But that was the logical conclusion anyway.

I know, that according to wikileaks, back in 2007, around airports shutdown, the yellows/dems were ready to sacrifice up to 500 of their members to be killed by their own side, on order to get to power again.

at the end they just paid up to 50mln baht per head for parliamentarists to switch sides.

this time round that much money wasn't necessary, killing some 25 of their own supporters was cheaper.

[watcharacters]

Seeking the truth anywhere is a tall order!

.

You're correct, but some countries admittedly have better resources and avenues to divulge the "truth" than others.

[tingtongteesood]

"Thotsaphon Kaewthima, a fellow STR leader, said the police did not seem to have moved forward in the probe into Sutin's death. He added that an arrest warrant had been issued against an STR member, but said it was impossible that this person killed Sutin as they were both in the same vehicle at the time of the shooting."

if that's happen it's called "insider's job" or "infighting". There is a strong suspicion, that those some 25 who died during bangkok shutdown were killed in a similar manner. Just for the sake of power hungry elits to depose a democratically elected government. Those are called "collateral damage" in military terms.

some call it a "small price" to rule over 65mln people with gdp of 360bln and feudaly rooted corruption and it's said to pay back to suthep's paymasters within months.

as to the killed guy - he was a leader of violent wing of a thai fascist movement and was shot dead during a violent blockade of polling stations, which lead to cancellation of a general election

"as to the killed guy - he was a leader of violent wing of a thai fascist movement

Shows how much you know. He had nothing to do with the UDD and in fact the UDD have been linked to this PTP sanctioned assassination. But that was the logical conclusion anyway.

I know, that according to wikileaks, back in 2007, around airports shutdown, the yellows/dems were ready to sacrifice up to 500 of their members to be killed by their own side, on order to get to power again.

at the end they just paid up to 50mln baht per head for parliamentarists to switch sides.

this time round that much money wasn't necessary, killing some 25 of their own supporters was cheaper.

You should become a fiction author as all you ever seem to do here is make up complete and utter bullsh-t ! The reds killed protestors, we have proof, people with guns and grenades have admitted to at least the Trat attack where the 2 poor kids were murdered ( among others ) and the reds were caught at the court with the grenade launcher, not to mention the hundreds of guns, grenades and thousands of bullets the army have recovered from the rouge terrorists since May 22nd. Do try to leave your deluded palace of bs and join reality occasionally, you might learn something....

You mentioned something on Wikileaks, where is the link for it ? Please offer us your supposed proof openly for all to see.....

Edited June 28, 2014 by tingtongteesood