Lots of people despise nanny states.  Although corruption is not a direct antonym, most countries that we would consider intrinsically corrupt are a world away from western democracies.  I don't know about you, but that's why I'm here, to escape bureaucracy.

 

Undoubtedly the changes imposed by the Junta so far will make life better for the average Thai person, part of me applauds that.  If this continues long-term (big if), from a selfish point of view I would find it stale, dull, uninteresting, and it would be harder to get things accomplished.  I like to think of life as a game, and those who play the system best, profit most; I like that ideology.  When it's dog eat dog the fittest will thrive.

 

Who said law and order is a prerequisite to happiness and soulful enlightenment, anyway?

seems more people like nanny states-they keep voting for it.

 

 

 

We really dont want los morph into sinapore........

Well today The Navy and National Park police have been pulling down a number of illegal buildings in one of our local fishin villages. They've be warned before, but it seems paying off people is no longer working. Some pretty pissed off people, but the clean up IMO is much needed

"I like to think of life as a game, and those who play the system best, profit most; I like that ideology. When it's dog eat dog the fittest will thrive."

Sounds like selfishness to me. You should feel right at home in Thailand.

The corruption is just one part of the cycle. Happens every time, all the right initiatives are started, the politicians get back in then there is another coup. It's a cycle and has been like this for decades and seems to work to a degree. 

dont worry corruption is embedded in the thai psyche.It may change a little but not much.There's heaps of corruption in the west,just done in a different way.

"When it's dog eat dog the fittest will thrive"

 

Let's wait and see how you feel when the other dog is bigger than you and starts to champ on your bones... 

I believe you should learn to differentiate between corruption and commission.

I believe that many on here applauded the attack on corruption by the Junta.Very few realised where this would end.For me, if all the non thais who are corrupt vanish,Then Thailand will be a better place.

 

The corrupt thais will only go as long as the JUNTA want the vote,then back in they come 

I believe that many on here applauded the attack on corruption by the Junta.Very few realised where this would end.For me, if all the non thais who are corrupt vanish,Then Thailand will be a better place.

 

The corrupt thais will only go as long as the JUNTA want the vote,then back in they come 

 

yes i think this is true and is n't it the army that controls the goings on in the golden triangle?

I think you have been reading to much comments on the news section of tv where  pro junta farangs/yellow shirt lovers who know titi about recent Thai history concerning coups,when new elections will be held everything will just be like it was before until a next coup will occur.

Just a big pr stunt by the junta leaders nothing more.

I still can not fathom why foreigners take things for granted who have no right to vote in Thailand from crappy English media outlets in Thailand.

I think you have been reading to much comments on the news section of tv where  pro junta farangs/yellow shirt lovers who know titi about recent Thai history concerning coups,when new elections will be held everything will just be like it was before until a next coup will occur.

Just a big pr stunt by the junta leaders nothing more.

I still can not fathom why foreigners take things for granted who have no right to vote in Thailand from crappy English media outlets in Thailand.

 

come on, you can't be serious. The junta sucessfully turned the motosai jacket from orange to bright orange. They also broadcast for free the world cup.

And dont forget they asked the bank to provide loan to people who are victims of loan sharks.

mmmh i think you need your shot of happiness

 

I think you have been reading to much comments on the news section of tv where  pro junta farangs/yellow shirt lovers who know titi about recent Thai history concerning coups,when new elections will be held everything will just be like it was before until a next coup will occur.

Just a big pr stunt by the junta leaders nothing more.

I still can not fathom why foreigners take things for granted who have no right to vote in Thailand from crappy English media outlets in Thailand.

 

come on, you can't be serious. The junta sucessfully turned the motosai jacket from orange to bright orange. They also broadcast for free the world cup.

And dont forget they asked the bank to provide loan to people who are victims of loan sharks.

mmmh i think you need your shot of happiness

 

i enjoy youre sarcasm.

 

 

I think you have been reading to much comments on the news section of tv where  pro junta farangs/yellow shirt lovers who know titi about recent Thai history concerning coups,when new elections will be held everything will just be like it was before until a next coup will occur.

Just a big pr stunt by the junta leaders nothing more.

I still can not fathom why foreigners take things for granted who have no right to vote in Thailand from crappy English media outlets in Thailand.

 

come on, you can't be serious. The junta sucessfully turned the motosai jacket from orange to bright orange. They also broadcast for free the world cup.

And dont forget they asked the bank to provide loan to people who are victims of loan sharks.

mmmh i think you need your shot of happiness

 

i enjoy youre sarcasm.

 

 

actually that was irony

... as i dont want to hurt the yellow looney
 

 

I think you have been reading to much comments on the news section of tv where  pro junta farangs/yellow shirt lovers who know titi about recent Thai history concerning coups,when new elections will be held everything will just be like it was before until a next coup will occur.

Just a big pr stunt by the junta leaders nothing more.

I still can not fathom why foreigners take things for granted who have no right to vote in Thailand from crappy English media outlets in Thailand.

 

come on, you can't be serious. The junta sucessfully turned the motosai jacket from orange to bright orange. They also broadcast for free the world cup.

And dont forget they asked the bank to provide loan to people who are victims of loan sharks.

mmmh i think you need your shot of happiness

 

But they haven't done anything about Thailands dreadful road fatalities, have they? Once they start that it will be time to rejoice. But don't hold your breath.

 

 

I think you have been reading to much comments on the news section of tv where  pro junta farangs/yellow shirt lovers who know titi about recent Thai history concerning coups,when new elections will be held everything will just be like it was before until a next coup will occur.

Just a big pr stunt by the junta leaders nothing more.

I still can not fathom why foreigners take things for granted who have no right to vote in Thailand from crappy English media outlets in Thailand.

 

come on, you can't be serious. The junta sucessfully turned the motosai jacket from orange to bright orange. They also broadcast for free the world cup.

And dont forget they asked the bank to provide loan to people who are victims of loan sharks.

mmmh i think you need your shot of happiness

 

But they haven't done anything about Thailands dreadful road fatalities, have they? Once they start that it will be time to rejoice. But don't hold your breath.

 

I don't think that's why they seized power to be honest. The reason was to preserve peace in the country as Thailand was heading into a civil war and they've done a pretty good job of it so far. 

 

I think you have been reading to much comments on the news section of tv where  pro junta farangs/yellow shirt lovers who know titi about recent Thai history concerning coups,when new elections will be held everything will just be like it was before until a next coup will occur.
Just a big pr stunt by the junta leaders nothing more.
I still can not fathom why foreigners take things for granted who have no right to vote in Thailand from crappy English media outlets in Thailand.

 
come on, you can't be serious. The junta sucessfully turned the motosai jacket from orange to bright orange. They also broadcast for free the world cup.
And dont forget they asked the bank to provide loan to people who are victims of loan sharks.
mmmh i think you need your shot of happiness:whistling:

But they haven't done anything about Thailands dreadful road fatalities, have they? Once they start that it will be time to rejoice. But don't hold your breath.

I don't think that's why they seized power to be honest. The reason was to preserve peace in the country as Thailand was heading into a civil war and they've done a pretty good job of it so far.

That's a very good answer, but I still think they should be making it a priority to sort out the reason for all these road fatalities,they are running the country after all.

"Who said law and order is a prerequisite to happiness and soulful enlightenment, anyway?"

I don't know who said it, but it's true.

Any anarchic society is centered on dog eat dog. Even the successful do not have "soulful enlightenment", and if they happen to have happiness, they do not have humanity.

The OP smacks of a person who on the political scale is further right-wing than Attila the Hun and Hitler.

But in his case, the superiority he craves stems from financial not physical might, nor intellectual.

 

Put me in the ring with him, or the academic arena, and he is mine to own. When I win the lottery, he will be mine too. (Sadly, I haven't won the lotto yet)

 

A sad individual. And probably a reincarnation of  WUS.

 

 

I think you have been reading to much comments on the news section of tv where  pro junta farangs/yellow shirt lovers who know titi about recent Thai history concerning coups,when new elections will be held everything will just be like it was before until a next coup will occur.

Just a big pr stunt by the junta leaders nothing more.

I still can not fathom why foreigners take things for granted who have no right to vote in Thailand from crappy English media outlets in Thailand.

 

come on, you can't be serious. The junta sucessfully turned the motosai jacket from orange to bright orange. They also broadcast for free the world cup.

And dont forget they asked the bank to provide loan to people who are victims of loan sharks.

mmmh i think you need your shot of happiness

 

But they haven't done anything about Thailands dreadful road fatalities, have they? Once they start that it will be time to rejoice. But don't hold your breath.

 

 

No no no no! Pahleese don't start up the Traffic Nazis vs the Libertarians again. There should be an annual limit on the number of times this topic can appear in different guises.  But if it makes you feel better, yes, they have done a little already. Traffic police in Chiang Mai stop motorcycles from parking in front of the white line. Ah, ok. No lives saved there. BUT, I have been reliably informed that they are also arresting drivers who smell of alcohol - without the bother of dodgy technology like breathalysers. And the arresting officers were not interested in money in their own pockets. Good on 'em. It does seem that someone has stuck at least a small cat amongst the pigeons.
 

 

I think you have been reading to much comments on the news section of tv where  pro junta farangs/yellow shirt lovers who know titi about recent Thai history concerning coups,when new elections will be held everything will just be like it was before until a next coup will occur.
Just a big pr stunt by the junta leaders nothing more.
I still can not fathom why foreigners take things for granted who have no right to vote in Thailand from crappy English media outlets in Thailand.

 
come on, you can't be serious. The junta sucessfully turned the motosai jacket from orange to bright orange. They also broadcast for free the world cup.
And dont forget they asked the bank to provide loan to people who are victims of loan sharks.
mmmh i think you need your shot of happiness:whistling:

But they haven't done anything about Thailands dreadful road fatalities, have they? Once they start that it will be time to rejoice. But don't hold your breath.

 
No no no no! Pahleese don't start up the Traffic Nazis vs the Libertarians again. There should be an annual limit on the number of times this topic can appear in different guises.  But if it makes you feel better, yes, they have done a little already. Traffic police in Chiang Mai stop motorcycles from parking in front of the white line. Ah, ok. No lives saved there. BUT, I have been reliably informed that they are also arresting drivers who smell of alcohol - without the bother of dodgy technology like breathalysers. And the arresting officers were not interested in money in their own pockets. Good on 'em. It does seem that someone has stuck at least a small cat amongst the pigeons.

Glad to hear that if it's true, next stop, get the underage motor cyclists off the road.

Corruption/Envy/Covetousness/Avarice will only end when mankind is extinct.

Good post op, and no, your not the only one

Corruption/Envy/Covetousness/Avarice will only end when mankind is extinct.

 

That's what I like to see. Unfettered optimism.
 

Please forgive the ignorance, but what exactly have they changed regarding corruption?

The end of corruption?

 

Now, that would be news.

 

Anyone know where that is even a remote possibility?

Do not fret dear friend, corruption in Thailand is here to stay, it might take a step backward,

it might be a bit of a hush hush now, but you will be able to find it and use it to your heart

content....

Can't believe how naive you are. End of corruption. Are you mad, are you seriously proposing that the military in this country is less corrupt than politicians?

I do not believe corruption is going away anywhere , any time soon.

What is going away is a blatant corruption, something clearly obvious such as illegal buildings.

Government employees are still paid the same and will continue to receive donations for less obvious things.

Police will continue their shake downs but on less obvious levels .

Perfect example is the latest experience just the other night.

Someone I know was pulled over for breath test at 3am, which he miserably failed.

Practice in the past was always to get arrested and impossible to get out of it.

He was suggested a 5000 baht donation, negotiated down to 3000 baht and he was let go .

Why? Because current police income has been threatened so more opportunity for individuals to make money in other ways.

Even in nanny states, corruption still exists just on different levels .

For example in Sydney to get approved for condo development within a reasonable time frame, developers often "donate" 1-2 apartments to local council. It's called "charity"

Totally agree. Despite my constant whining if LOS was transparent and no corruption and all had equal rights the prices would go up and you may as well stay at home. I guess you just have to take the good with the bad, if the lights go out without notice take solace that if you were in a hotel in Belgium you would be paying 4 times the amount for decent accom and food and kitty. Long live low prices and cheap entertainment (Just watch out for yourself).