Police close dog meat shop in Isaan

[Krataiboy]

"Thais do not normally eat dog (or consort with prostitutes, or take drugs or habitually drink themselves stupid). . . immigrants brought the custom with them from abroad".

Some things never change, no matter who's running the show.

[thehelmsman]

Eating dog in Sakon certainly does go on in the villages. I've never tried simply because I don't see the point. The dogs are purchased. I swear the village dogs know who eats dog because they behave very aggressively towards certain guys.

[iReason]

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"Thais do not normally eat dog (or consort with prostitutes, or take drugs or habitually drink themselves stupid). . . immigrants brought the custom with them from abroad".

Some things never change, no matter who's running the show.

And it won't change.

As soon as the current circus folds it's tents, it will be business as usual.

[ericnoodeeka]

Darn....my favourite Sakhon Nakhon dog eatery gone to the pigs.....

That final bit about Thais not normally eating dog meat is a bit of a porky. Apart from Isaan, where you could argue most of the clientele are Lao ethnicity, rather than Thais, some of the most popular areas for dog consumption in Thailand are apparently in Phrae, Phayao, Lampang, Chiang Mai provinces apparently, where they most definitely are "Thai" ethnicity, by most simple definitions. And to pretend that people didn't eat dogs before the Vietnamese brought the commercialisation of dog markets into the Northeast, would be naive at best. Dog has always been a popular dish in Northern and Northeastern Thailand as far as I can discern, but only at the local, village level and not for sale. That is why your average Isaan family would rather take a bucket for their mangy mutt than money, giving the traders a tidy profit and avoiding the feeling of "barb" for selling off the family pet.

In my 30 years of living in and visiting a small Isaan village, I have never, ever, seen or heard of anyone eating dog and I think it must be at least 10 years since I last saw a dog-catchers' van doing the rounds.

beg to differ, when i built my house, after every big stage, ie, foundations, walls, roof, etc, my wife would say can we buy them a dog? i sat with them when the barbecued it and ate it.happens all the time in the villages, everywhere in issan.that was in the last 4 years.

[ericnoodeeka]

Eating dog in Sakon certainly does go on in the villages. I've never tried simply because I don't see the point. The dogs are purchased. I swear the village dogs know who eats dog because they behave very aggressively towards certain guys.

same place im talking about.i live in sakon, for 6 year, i still see them eat dog everyday.

what i cant understand is, a black dog is more expensive than a other colourd dog.how does that work?

[Alan653]

Darn....my favourite Sakhon Nakhon dog eatery gone to the pigs.....

That final bit about Thais not normally eating dog meat is a bit of a porky. Apart from Isaan, where you could argue most of the clientele are Lao ethnicity, rather than Thais, some of the most popular areas for dog consumption in Thailand are apparently in Phrae, Phayao, Lampang, Chiang Mai provinces apparently, where they most definitely are "Thai" ethnicity, by most simple definitions. And to pretend that people didn't eat dogs before the Vietnamese brought the commercialisation of dog markets into the Northeast, would be naive at best. Dog has always been a popular dish in Northern and Northeastern Thailand as far as I can discern, but only at the local, village level and not for sale. That is why your average Isaan family would rather take a bucket for their mangy mutt than money, giving the traders a tidy profit and avoiding the feeling of "barb" for selling off the family pet.

You can add Korat to the list of places where they eat dogs as well. Edited July 31, 2014 by Alan653

[ericnoodeeka]

the fact of the matter is, they will eat anything that moves where i live.

but my wife wont eat rabbit, its a pet she says, but she will eat rat and dog and anything else.

i suppose its all about how you been brought up, and how hungry u are.

personally i dont eat dog, but i cant see the problem if they do.

if you were hungry enough, i think you would tooo.

[plachon]

Darn....my favourite Sakhon Nakhon dog eatery gone to the pigs.....

That final bit about Thais not normally eating dog meat is a bit of a porky. Apart from Isaan, where you could argue most of the clientele are Lao ethnicity, rather than Thais, some of the most popular areas for dog consumption in Thailand are apparently in Phrae, Phayao, Lampang, Chiang Mai provinces apparently, where they most definitely are "Thai" ethnicity, by most simple definitions. And to pretend that people didn't eat dogs before the Vietnamese brought the commercialisation of dog markets into the Northeast, would be naive at best. Dog has always been a popular dish in Northern and Northeastern Thailand as far as I can discern, but only at the local, village level and not for sale. That is why your average Isaan family would rather take a bucket for their mangy mutt than money, giving the traders a tidy profit and avoiding the feeling of "barb" for selling off the family pet.

In my 30 years of living in and visiting a small Isaan village, I have never, ever, seen or heard of anyone eating dog and I think it must be at least 10 years since I last saw a dog-catchers' van doing the rounds.

Well, all I can say is you can't of got out and about much or must have lived a very sheltered life in your wee village. I've been served and/or eaten dog in all 5 provinces I've lived and seen/heard people eat and like dog everywhere I've gone. It's a bit of an open secret and joke for a lot of Isaan men to have a nice bit of dog on a cold January night. Black are tastiest/best, supposedly. Last time I was up in Sakhon Nakhon (2013) there were several new dog meat eateries opened up in rural spots, all aimed at a Thai clientele, not Vietnamese. Regularly seen the dog catching songtaew around up until 2010 also, but haven't been back much since. There have been a few more crackdowns on the business in the last few years for sure, but it is still there if you look hard enough. Tha Rae, Sakhon Nakhon is ground zero for the traders.

[canuckamuck]

Darn....my favourite Sakhon Nakhon dog eatery gone to the pigs.....

That final bit about Thais not normally eating dog meat is a bit of a porky. Apart from Isaan, where you could argue most of the clientele are Lao ethnicity, rather than Thais, some of the most popular areas for dog consumption in Thailand are apparently in Phrae, Phayao, Lampang, Chiang Mai provinces apparently, where they most definitely are "Thai" ethnicity, by most simple definitions. And to pretend that people didn't eat dogs before the Vietnamese brought the commercialisation of dog markets into the Northeast, would be naive at best. Dog has always been a popular dish in Northern and Northeastern Thailand as far as I can discern, but only at the local, village level and not for sale. That is why your average Isaan family would rather take a bucket for their mangy mutt than money, giving the traders a tidy profit and avoiding the feeling of "barb" for selling off the family pet.

In my 30 years of living in and visiting a small Isaan village, I have never, ever, seen or heard of anyone eating dog and I think it must be at least 10 years since I last saw a dog-catchers' van doing the rounds.

beg to differ, when i built my house, after every big stage, ie, foundations, walls, roof, etc, my wife would say can we buy them a dog? i sat with them when the barbecued it and ate it.happens all the time in the villages, everywhere in issan.that was in the last 4 years.

When you buy someone a dog you must consider the matter seriously. Make sure it is good one, tender and sweet. Black dog is the best.

[timmyp]

Is it illegal to sell dog meat in Thailand?

I sometimes read articles about people getting arrested who were selling dog meat or transporting dogs, but it's often not clear what the specific crime is.

This article says that they got busted for not having a permit for butchering animal carcasses without a permit. So is it possible to get a permit to prepare dog meat? Just curious...

The article also said "illegal trade", but I would like to know what that specifically encompasses.... no darker motives here, just curious...

[junk1e]

Many Thais do eat dog meat particularly in the far north. Principally descendants of certain hill tribes some who eat dog meat some who don't. It is also gaining popularity with young men who think it makes them virile. Tests have shown that the opposite is true.

There are a number of issues here which people choose to ignore.

1. The collecting and transporting of dogs is illegal as Thailand has a rabies problem, and transporting unvaccinated dogs from one region to another is a danger to humans and spreading the virus.

2. Dogs are not classified as livestock, and there is no control over the standard of meat. It is no coincidence that outbreaks of cholera and trichinosis in Thailand occur in dog eating areas.

3. The cruelty involved in the whole process is extreme by any standards. We call ourselves human beings because unlike any other species we are supposed to have humanity. You won't see a shred of humanity in the dog meat trade.

4. Although some dogs are still bought or exchanged for plastic buckets the majority these days are stolen pets as in better condition, cost nothing and command a higher price.

[chotthee]

Yes, it is for the Vietnamese client. Thai people are Buddhist, don't kill animal and never eat dog.

So.....Vietnamese are not Buddhist?

The Vietnamese (like Chinese) are Taoist (Buddha is just one of their many gods). I wonder if there is such thing as a halal dog meat?

[Ridler]

Don't know what al the fuss is all about. If you want to eat dog, then eat it. And to all these 'dog lovers', if you really liked dogs you would not keep them as pets, drag them through the streets on a lead and treat them like humans

[Jim walker]

Nothing like a nice bit of Road Kill dog for Sunday lunch I presume this would be ok for Buddhist to eat as they did not directly kill it, My wife’s family comes from village just outside Sakon Nakhon and in all the times I have been staying there we have only eaten fish and veg they never eat meat and only when I am there I eat pork and get stared at as if I was some sort of monster, their pallets are possibly better developed for taste and dog meat not on the menu but my wife warned me not to come inside one of the markets we visited as part of it was for dog meat and what I saw possibly would upset me.

Well done to the Authorities from the International Animals Trafficking Suppression Special Unit get them all closed down and arrested for killing family pets.

[emanphoto]

Haha since when has hygiene ever been a concern?

He says after going to the hospital Tues. after eating some not-so-good khao mun gai.

Missed a good job plus cost me 1500 for the doc and my meds.

Side of the road dog, side of the road khao mun gai...probably not much worse if any.

Sorry, but a stray dog by the side of the road cannot represent a safe thing to eat. How long has that mutt been dead? What kinds of bacteria are we talking about here? Safety standards are a good thing, even setting aside any moral ambiguities that dog mean represents.

[thehelmsman]

the fact of the matter is, they will eat anything that moves where i live.

but my wife wont eat rabbit, its a pet she says, but she will eat rat and dog and anything else.

i suppose its all about how you been brought up, and how hungry u are.

personally i dont eat dog, but i cant see the problem if they do.

if you were hungry enough, i think you would tooo.

We have 2 female dogs and the pups have a way of disappearing, the MIL's cash cows. Jokes are made when the village dogs are bothersome about having BBQ that night.

[annabel]

Yes, it is for the Vietnamese client. Thai people are Buddhist, don't kill animal and never eat dog.

Of course they don't. They never murder, tell lies or do any of the nasty things that non Buddhists do

Ever been to a temple to see how the Buddhist Monks treat all the animals that people dump there.... they don't kill them but the way they treat them is worse than killing them .... !

[annabel]

Yes, it is for the Vietnamese client. Thai people are Buddhist, don't kill animal and never eat dog.

Yes a trip through any meat market will confirm that Buddhists don't kill animals. The animals sacrifice themselves for the good of the country.

My mother in law does not want to kill animals either. So she leaves the alive Tilapia in a bucket without water untill it dies by it self........after an hour or so of strugling to stay alive.......

same in the market where they remove the scales of the fish while still alive.......

And the Takatan (grasshppers) and Gop (frogs) just get tossed into the boiling fat alive

What about the roasted rats on a skewer ??

[cookee68]

Yes, it is for the Vietnamese client. Thai people are Buddhist, don't kill animal and never eat dog.

what just like you don't gamble or sell your body, what a crock of s**t

[ALFREDO]

My faithful Thai ridgeback "disappeared" a few months ago from near PakThongChai, despite intensive searches he was never found, I hope he gave them a good long dose of diarrhoea

A Ridgeback is a pure breed and worth money, I believe.

Possible, that he got sold as pure breed and not eaten.

I to lost 4 dogs to in the night active dog hunters, sales people with Pick ups.

Have to say, that since some years I did not see the Pick ups driving around with the dogs crammed behind in cages.

The police activities work positive.

[ALFREDO]

In my 30 years of living in and visiting a small Isaan village, I have never, ever, seen or heard of anyone eating dog and I think it must be at least 10 years since I last saw a dog-catchers' van doing the rounds.

beg to differ, when i built my house, after every big stage, ie, foundations, walls, roof, etc,my wife would say can we buy them a dog? i sat with them when the barbecued it and ate it.happens all the time in the villages, everywhere in issan.that was in the last 4 years.

Did not see a DOG BUYING, HUNTING, STEALING. Pick up since some years, since the crack down, but before, sometime 3 in a week.

"my wife would say can we buy them a dog?"

Would buy them some meat, but NO DOG!

[noendtoit]

Yes, it is for the Vietnamese client. Thai people are Buddhist, don't kill animal and never eat dog.

I have yet to meet a Thai that practices anything Siddhartha taught. The Thai version of "Buddhism" has gone off on its own with money hungry monks,beliefs in magic, beliefs in power of prayer, beliefs in ghosts, beliefs in afterlife (heaven and hell) and beliefs in reincarnation (Hindu).

Be that as it may, Thais also kill freely. Siddhartha did not teach that a mosquito's life was less valuable than that of a dog. Thais kill mosquitoes and snakes freely, they poison dogs that kill their chickens and they kill the chickens and pigs to eat. Some kill more than others, but every one of them kills.

Sometimes they hire Muslims to klll the meat animals, but not always.

How do these crazy myths about Thai culture get started anyway?

Eighty baht a kilo, huh? Hmmmm, a better deal than pork . . . . hmmm.

[noendtoit]

Since there is no animal control agency here that euthanizes and disposes of unwanted stray dogs and cats (as in the West), there is surplus of them running wild in the streets. They are filled with parasites and carry rabies and other diseases. The dog meat trade adds some balance. I simply cannot see why the so called "dog lovers" on TV get so upset about the dog meat trade. They may think that the stray soi dogs should be taken care of, but let's face it, that isn't going to happen. The alternative to the dog meat trade is terrible suffering for the short lives these dogs lead. So these so called dog lovers, who are devoid of logic, are actually supporting cruelty by implication.

[Mattbaldacchino]

had a girl from Isaan who openly admitted she ate (and likes) dog! She grew up on a farm & when times were tight, it was affordable. So its not just the Vietnamese.. Don't see what the big deal is to be honest, people look at me & my country and think we're crazy for eating fluffy bunny rabbits..but they're delicious

[lostinisaan]

In my 30 years of living in and visiting a small Isaan village, I have never, ever, seen or heard of anyone eating dog and I think it must be at least 10 years since I last saw a dog-catchers' van doing the rounds.

beg to differ, when i built my house, after every big stage, ie, foundations, walls, roof, etc,my wife would say can we buy them a dog? i sat with them when the barbecued it and ate it.happens all the time in the villages, everywhere in issan.that was in the last 4 years.

Did not see a DOG BUYING, HUNTING, STEALING. Pick up since some years, since the crack down, but before, sometime 3 in a week.

"my wife would say can we buy them a dog?"

Would buy them some meat, but NO DOG!

"my wife would say can we buy them a dog?"

Would buy them some meat, but NO DOG!

Why not a hot dog????

[lostinisaan]

had a girl from Isaan who openly admitted she ate (and likes) dog! She grew up on a farm & when times were tight, it was affordable. So its not just the Vietnamese.. Don't see what the big deal is to be honest, people look at me & my country and think we're crazy for eating fluffy bunny rabbits..but they're delicious

Had a girl from Mars and she was green! Many people here in Isaan, also in lower Isaan do eat dogs.

If a dog gets killed in a road accident, yes many villagers who are piss poor do eat dogs.

Then go to upper Isaan, near the Mekhong, let's say Nakhon Phanom. You won't see a dog on the streets, but the dog's heads on, or near the restaurant that's selling food made out of dogs.

I still have a girl from Isaan, told her that I ate the Easter Bunny and she wanted a divorce.

I remember in my country of origin, every Tuesday the horse meat market. Their urine's going through their meat, so what's so bad about eating dogs?

We eat pigs, that eat pigs, or anything else. You are what you eat? -=

[ALFREDO]

Since there is no animal control agency here that euthanizes and disposes of unwanted stray dogs and cats (as in the West), there is surplus of them running wild in the streets. They are filled with parasites and carry rabies and other diseases. The dog meat trade adds some balance. I simply cannot see why the so called "dog lovers" on TV get so upset about the dog meat trade. They may think that the stray soi dogs should be taken care of, but let's face it, that isn't going to happen. The alternative to the dog meat trade is terrible suffering for the short lives these dogs lead. So these so called dog lovers, who are devoid of logic, are actually supporting cruelty by implication.

I take care the families dogs, they roam free on a 300 m stretch between the parents, Gfs house

and my living place in a small rural Isaan village.

Over a period of only some years, I had to witness, take note.

4 dogs stolen from in front of the house in the night by your praised dog mafia.

3 dogs killed by cars and

3 only some month old young dogs killed by rat poison, in three different occasions, seen them dying in front of me in the kitchen during my Internet sessions. VERY SAD, all of the above.

Edited August 1, 2014 by ALFREDO

[ALFREDO]

Did not see a DOG BUYING, HUNTING, STEALING. Pick up since some years, since the crack down, but before, sometime 3 in a week.

"my wife would say can we buy them a dog?"

Would buy them some meat, but NO DOG!

"my wife would say can we buy them a dog?"

Would buy them some meat, but NO DOG!

Why not a hot dog????

A but I believe the Isaanies will not understand the "joke" as most, do not know a "Hot dog"

[ALFREDO]

I still have a girl from Isaan, told her that I ate the Easter Bunny and she wanted a divorce.

She knows the Easter Bunny, wauw, must have been good educated.

ED center the south.

[lostinisaan]

Did not see a DOG BUYING, HUNTING, STEALING. Pick up since some years, since the crack down, but before, sometime 3 in a week.

"my wife would say can we buy them a dog?"

Would buy them some meat, but NO DOG!

"my wife would say can we buy them a dog?"

Would buy them some meat, but NO DOG!

Why not a hot dog????

A but I believe the Isaanies will not understand the "joke" as most, do not know a "Hot dog"

How do we know what male dogs think of female bitches? Two male dogs: " Hey, look at that hot dog there!"

Edited August 2, 2014 by lostinisaan