skippybangkok Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Buy the car, all is cool..... But give run flats about 9-15 months and it sounds like your in a coffee grinder from the tyre noise, Recommendation is just change tyres Changing now to normal tyres, but no spare wheel space in the boot, so the spare wheel I bought takes up a big chunk of the boot space. I think head of BMW made a boo boo unless it's their recommendation to change tyres every 9 months ( not very green idea ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtjforyou Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Can you explain again what you said ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Can you explain again what you said ? I think it's Bwana Speak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 First thing many BMW owners do is to get rid of the run-flats... The ride is awful and handle like bricks... Carry a can of flat-repair goo in the boot, smaller than a spare and just as good for roadside repairs... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurnell Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I've woken up in an alternative universe where everyone writes in a different language. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SantiSuk Posted August 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) "Run flats" - tyres that you can still "run" on (drive for a short while without the need to change the wheel) if you get a "flat". "Boot" - proper English for what Americans call the "trunk". OK - now? You are in a specialist enthusiasts forum, not a parallel universe. Let em talk their own language Edit: on reflection, I guess you both really did understand and were just lamely playing to an audience Edited August 1, 2014 by SantiSuk 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 "Run flats" - tyres that you can still "run" on (drive for a short while without the need to change the wheel) if you get a "flat". "Boot" - proper English for what Americans call the "trunk". OK - now? You are in a specialist enthusiasts forum, not a parallel universe. Let em talk their own language Edit: on reflection, I guess you both really did understand and were just lamely playing to an audience I don't think playing. Anyway - dumped them yesterday and have now normal tyres ( tires - for the other universe ). What a huge difference in ride quality and noise Happy camper Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I knew this would happen Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) I think only the first gen run flats had a serious problem but the newer ones don´t seem to be so bad at all. Maybe when the run flats get older the problem comes again faster and more intensive compared to normal tyres. Is the increasing tyre noise a problem that occurs faster in LOS than at home? Maybe the run flats feel so bad as tyres age faster here. My E89 for example, came with run flats, was fine to drive with them. After a while I exchanged them with 19 inch Toyo Proxes T1R. Thats about 20 month ago and I feel like the car is a LOT louder than at the beginning. That really made me wonder, never had that before. Edited August 2, 2014 by I knew this would happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 Yeh, when car was new was nice and quiet, but the ride was quite hard. 15 months in its like a coffee grinder Just put new normal tyres on 2 days back and it's a huge change in ride quality and noise. No place for spare, so I guess this is my last BMW Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedkellylives Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) Yeh, when car was new was nice and quiet, but the ride was quite hard. 15 months in its like a coffee grinder Just put new normal tyres on 2 days back and it's a huge change in ride quality and noise. No place for spare, so I guess this is my last BMW Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app People who can afford BMW"s here like other countries do not need spare tyres they trade them in before the tyres need replacing or the repair costs get so high you put them on blocks or let some other would be who could be buy it secondhand and pay the maintanance costs Edited August 2, 2014 by nedkellylives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I knew this would happen Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) Yeh, when car was new was nice and quiet, but the ride was quite hard. 15 months in its like a coffee grinder Just put new normal tyres on 2 days back and it's a huge change in ride quality and noise. No place for spare, so I guess this is my last BMW Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I don´t have a spare tyre either, just a BMW tyrefit kit. But i don´t intend to use it anyway. I will not get out of my car on the BKK highway and fiddle around with some tools while everyone tries to kill me. I´ll call the BMW service to sort that out if my tyre is flat in BKK. When I´m somewhere else I might consider the repair kit. Edited August 2, 2014 by I knew this would happen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 People who can afford BMW"s here like other countries do not need spare tyres they trade them in before the tyres need replacing or the repair costs get so high you put them on blocks or let some other would be who could be buy it secondhand and pay the maintanance costs Trollup Can I afford to buy new tyres every year, sure. But if your willing to fork out about 70k baht in run flats every 9 to 12 months and throwing away perfectly threaded tires - that hurts Anyway- the ride quality sucks anyway. @i knew - ur right , not safe changing tyres on the side of the road. Will get a car kit Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortenaa Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The run-flats on my new F20 116i is much better than my previous E90 3'er, which I replaced quickly. It all depends on the brand and type I guess.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 Yeh - mine were Pirelli and great / no issue when I got the car. Buy about month 10 the increased noise was noticeable , by about month 13 stating to get annoying , and by month 15 really annoying. Have already changed to normal tyres How long u had them on ? Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thairastawoman Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 So these run flat are more expensive than standard tires ? Are they available everywhere and can they be repaired as standard tires ? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Are about 20-50% more expensive than normal tyres. As far as I know ( could be wrong ) you are supposed to scrap them after a nail puncture as "it might damage the strength of the tyre". Heard somewhere Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortenaa Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) Yeh - mine were Pirelli and great / no issue when I got the car. Buy about month 10 the increased noise was noticeable , by about month 13 stating to get annoying , and by month 15 really annoying. Have already changed to normal tyres How long u had them on ? Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app On the 1'er I just had for a few month. Still on red plate.. BTW, no need to carry around a spare tire. I just keep a repair kit. Edited August 10, 2014 by mortenaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 If you get a M series, they don't come with run flats... At least mine didn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thairastawoman Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Hello, Is it well known that run flat are more noisy than standard ? But all cars with run flat can be changed for standard tires ? And is it true that Bquick or other shops do not have them and must order to get runflat ? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveromagnino Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 MINI also comes with runflats, I don't know anyone that keeps them past the first cycle - everyone switches to a cheaper non runflat and carries a kit - with a modern tire you have enough notice you can usually nurse it somewhere to get either a temporary fix to get you home or a new tire. Can't speak for every car, but in general the runflats do seem noisier and slightly worse performance wise with a higher price for the MINI. Also, Pirelli is outrageously expensive here, it is cheaper to switch to a locally made brand e.g. Yokohama Decibel which delivers what you require, and then when you get a flat, there is a good chance you can actually get a single tire. One of my cars came with Pirelli originally; got a flat within the first month, and had I stuck with Pirelli, it was a 4-12 week delay for the new tire to arrive (no one had one in stock); fortunately I had already changed to Bridgestone prior to taking delivery of the car so it was not only possible to buy but they could replace it that same day. I did it because I was worried I'd get caught in Hua Hin or somewhere upcountry and have no way to drive back (my car also does not have a spare) - I just didn't expect it to happen within 4 weeks of owning the car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Changed to normal tyres and very happy. Have a spare. Anyone can show me a sample of a repair kit ? Would like to get one and maybe leave the spare as it takes up alot of room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forethat Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I drive an M5 F10 with run flats. I was not aware that RFTs was noisier. I have not experienced any of what is described above. I will keep an ear open... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Turn down volume on stereo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortenaa Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I drive an M5 F10 with run flats. I was not aware that RFTs was noisier. I have not experienced any of what is described above. I will keep an ear open... Man.. An M5 deserves something MUCH better than RFT's... Go for P-Zero's and discover your new car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandun Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Changed to normal tyres and very happy. Have a spare. Anyone can show me a sample of a repair kit ? Would like to get one and maybe leave the spare as it takes up alot of room My f10 is 18 months and due for a tyre change as well. Although i have 30 percent discount letter from bmw, i am thinking if to use it or not for the run flats. I have been quoted 12,000 baht per tyre "run flat" so that will be 48,000 - 30 percent = 33,600 "8,400 per tyre". I am thinking regular tyre will be similar price so i am not sure which way to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortenaa Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Changed to normal tyres and very happy. Have a spare. Anyone can show me a sample of a repair kit ? Would like to get one and maybe leave the spare as it takes up alot of room My f10 is 18 months and due for a tyre change as well. Although i have 30 percent discount letter from bmw, i am thinking if to use it or not for the run flats. I have been quoted 12,000 baht per tyre "run flat" so that will be 48,000 - 30 percent = 33,600 "8,400 per tyre". I am thinking regular tyre will be similar price so i am not sure which way to go. Depends on the brand as well. Some RFT's are better than others. My dealer always said Dunlops are the softest. I don't know. For myself, I rather put the money in a really good tire, non RFT, and keep one of those emergency puncture kits in the trunk. RFT's are of course safer in case of a puncture at high speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Last car I had in the US was a Z4 with run flats. Hit a nail and went to get the tire replaced. After getting up off the floor from sticker shock, replaced the lot with regular tires at a fraction of the price and carried around a can of puncture repair. Never got another flat, and the regular tires drove and sounded better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deankham Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 My 2009 X5 had run flats. All was great in terms of drive and grip until I came to change them/ A set of 4 (21" M-Sport Alloys) cost me 10,000 Riyals ($2,700 / 1,700GBP)!!! ...I've since changed to a Volvo XC60 and the 'normal' tyres on the 20" wheels feel softer but don't grip as well as the monster rears on the X5. Do miss that sound from BMW V8, but the V6 Turbo in the volvo does drive nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thairastawoman Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Where to find a price list of run flat tyres in Thailand ? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Just go bquick Will set u back 60 - 80k depending on your car type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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