Central Pattaya knife attack leaves American seriously injured

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Central Pattaya knife attack leaves American seriously injured



PATTAYA: -- Late on Wednesday Night a 52 year old American cyclist was left with serious flesh wounds after he was subjected to a frenzied knife attack by a motorcyclist following a minor road accident involving the pair in Central Pattaya.

The incident occurred in Soi Xzyte off Pattaya Third Road, just after 10.30pm where Khun Prasit aged 29 works as a part-time masseur, when he is not at his full-time job as a butcher.

Mr. Daniel O’Neill from America was reportedly on his bicycle and was struck by Khun Prasit who was conducting a U-turn maneuver so he could drive home after finishing his shift at the massage shop.

His motorbike came into contact with Mr. O’Neill’s bicycle and although no significant damage was caused to the bike or Mr. O’Neill, angry words were exchanges which enraged Khun Prasi.

He produced a knife and attacked the American who was left with a number of slash wounds causing a significant loss of blood.

Full story: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/137730/


-- Pattaya One 2014-08-07

[robertthebruce]

How bad is this, the guy was carrying. A knife, ??? Who in there right mind would carry a knife ???

I know a few things annoy us here, but it ain't worth confronting any of them, you just never know.....

Hope the guy makes a full recovery....

[Bernard Flint]

How bad is this, the guy was carrying. A knife, ??? Who in there right mind would carry a knife ???

I know a few things annoy us here, but it ain't worth confronting any of them, you just never know.....

Hope the guy makes a full recovery....

tHIS is very bad. why oh why dont the thais act like americans, brits, italians

[shirtless]

I would be annoyed if some idiot making a u turn crashed into me , Thainess at its best

[ldnguy]

Much worse road rage incidents in UK & USA.

[junglechef]

"How bad is this, the guy was carrying. A knife, ??? Who in there right mind would carry a knife ???"

A chef or a butcher would carry a knife, which is what he did for his full time job

Edited August 7, 2014 by junglechef

[Nai41]

"When in Rome"... people make mistakes, nothing bad happened and because of this the Thai would have thought it a personal attack from the American. If the opposite had happened and the American had been at fault and put his hands together and said ka toot kap the Thai very most likely would have given the same "polite" gesture and moved on. When in a country that has a "polite particle" in their language for both male and female, even if you are in the right a display of anger is considered very impolite.

[apetley]

"When in Rome"... people make mistakes, nothing bad happened and because of this the Thai would have thought it a personal attack from the American. If the opposite had happened and the American had been at fault and put his hands together and said ka toot kap the Thai very most likely would have given the same "polite" gesture and moved on. When in a country that has a "polite particle" in their language for both male and female, even if you are in the right a display of anger is considered very impolite.

So impolite it warranted attempted murder right?

[jackvale]

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When you pass a sleeping soi dog curled up peacefullly on the side of the road, you are forced to consider and are never 100% sure whether he will pacivelly allow you to pass by unharmed or leap up and chomp your leg.

I'll leave it to you to descramble my metaphor...

[bubba]

Well it happened at 10:30pm and it looks like Daniel still has his shades on there in ER, so maybe he didn't see Prasit coming?

[Suradit69]

How bad is this, the guy was carrying. A knife, ??? Who in there right mind would carry a knife ???

I know a few things annoy us here, but it ain't worth confronting any of them, you just never know.....

Hope the guy makes a full recovery....

tHIS is very bad. why oh why dont the thais act like americans, brits, Italians

I assume you're being sarcastic. On Thai Visa sarcasm can fly over the heads of the literalists. And often things intended to be taken seriously appear to be sarcasm.

"why oh why dont the thais act like americans,"

... and carry a gun or assault rifle.

Edited August 7, 2014 by Suradit69

[BradinAsia]

I would be annoyed if some idiot making a u turn crashed into me , Thainess at its best

Thainess at its best?

The guy who got upset by the minor traffic incident was the American. Are you saying the american showed Thainess?

How could his getting angry be seen as "Thainess"? He is not Thai, nor is his sudden anger representative of Thainess.

[Bernard Flint]

How bad is this, the guy was carrying. A knife, ??? Who in there right mind would carry a knife ???

I know a few things annoy us here, but it ain't worth confronting any of them, you just never know.....

Hope the guy makes a full recovery....

tHIS is very bad. why oh why dont the thais act like americans, brits, italians

What? You want Thais to start shooting kids in school? And bombing innocent civilians in countries far away? Thais kill and injure a lot less people than Americans.

Dont be a silly boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you understand Irony, joke and pisstake lol

[Bernard Flint]

How bad is this, the guy was carrying. A knife, ??? Who in there right mind would carry a knife ???

I know a few things annoy us here, but it ain't worth confronting any of them, you just never know.....

Hope the guy makes a full recovery....

tHIS is very bad. why oh why dont the thais act like americans, brits, Italians

I assume you're being sarcastic. One never knows on Thai Visa since some comments made seriously often sound like sarcasm ... to everyone but the poster.

"why oh why dont the thais act like americans,"

... and carry a gun or assault rifle.

Of course it is sarcasm, do you realy think ANYBODY wants thais to act like americans hahahahahah

[Docno]

"How bad is this, the guy was carrying. A knife, ??? Who in there right mind would carry a knife ???"

A chef or a butcher would carry a knife, which is what he did for his full time job

Didn't know he would take his work home with him, so to speak. Also note, however, he was returning from his job as a masseur...

[BradinAsia]

"When in Rome"... people make mistakes, nothing bad happened and because of this the Thai would have thought it a personal attack from the American. If the opposite had happened and the American had been at fault and put his hands together and said ka toot kap the Thai very most likely would have given the same "polite" gesture and moved on. When in a country that has a "polite particle" in their language for both male and female, even if you are in the right a display of anger is considered very impolite.

I quite agree.

As an American living in Asia many years, I have come to realize that Americans are prone to quick anger and

vulgarities. Americans seem to think this is normal behavior, but in Asia if you get nasty and call people dirty

names as a result of some minor incident, it is not taken lightly.

As this case demonstrates, Americans who plan to visit or live in Asia would do well to learn a bit of manners

and civility. Otherwise they would be better off to stay in America.

Edited August 7, 2014 by BradinAsia

[jacko45k]

"How bad is this, the guy was carrying. A knife, ??? Who in there right mind would carry a knife ???"

A chef or a butcher would carry a knife, which is what he did for his full time job

Well apparently he also takes them to his night job of being a masseur!

Might prove useful for those awkward knots.

You have to watch your 'road rage' here, more-so that other countries. The locals don't take kindly to abuse...... and their idea of revenge far exceeds that of a Western mind. There are so many 'idiot' instances that induce such rage, but even a solitary punk may follow you to learn where you live.

Edited August 7, 2014 by jacko45k

[jmccarty]

Khun Prasit, with only 2 skills, 1 being massage, and the other butchery, got confused in the moment and instead of reaching for his body oil, pulled the carving knife instead! Could of happenned to anyone with 2 jobs! Sounds like an honest mistake!

Edited August 7, 2014 by jmccarty

[Blindside]

Seeing more and more rage incidents. Yesterday, saw a guy on a motorcycle stop a pickup with two ladies in the middle of the street, very aggressive toward them, shouting and telling them to open the windows.

What is also disturbing is getting a massage from a butcher ..... No offence to butchers, but I have seen the hygienic practices that abound here .

[AlphMichaels]

MUCH more to this story than meets the eye. First, the guy is no serious cyclist. Second, and to a prior post, wearing sunglasses so late..., guessing he's cycling back to a friend's place on a "borrowed" bike after pounding more than a few. Third, not that it's proper on either end but I can only imagine the adrenal rush from the American after being struck followed by words stated that he now regrets. The Thai guy...., let's give him a bit of a break pending better news...., everyone has a breaking point.

No references to pushing shoving or other physical activity but were I on a corner close by I could just about guarantee the American was physical.

My .02

[thhMan]

"When in Rome"... people make mistakes, nothing bad happened and because of this the Thai would have thought it a personal attack from the American. If the opposite had happened and the American had been at fault and put his hands together and said ka toot kap the Thai very most likely would have given the same "polite" gesture and moved on. When in a country that has a "polite particle" in their language for both male and female, even if you are in the right a display of anger is considered very impolite.

Impolite is what some Thai people do behind the wheel of a car or on a motorbike, when they take it upon themselves to break rules and put themselves or others at risk. It is also the same for people of other countries. However, the amount of stupidity and rule breaking on the roads is something I have only really encountered in Thailand. I am sure it happens elsewhere, but in this context, I am only speaking about Thailand.

When you see young school kids that are given bikes to get to school, you know that the parents dont give too hoots about rules. What do the police do... Nothing... What does the government do.. Nothing.... What do the Thais do... Nothing, be polite and continue this driving attitude that has no consequence.. till someone gets injured or dies!

Edited August 7, 2014 by thhMan

[JAFO]

This incident is a product of the area. There are high tensions in Pattaya along with the general fact that its congested with rude loud obnoxious tourists. The American should have just shrugged it off. Why cuss and yell and agitate it. Road rage happens everywhere in the world. I know if this had happened to me in the states I would have road on my way off why blow up at a Thai. You are on a bike. This happens all the time.

[maddermax]

I find that calmly saying "Ba ba bor bor" (you crazy bugger!) whilst shaking your head is usually enough to get the message across. In Asia you have to cause the offender to lose face as shouting does not have the intended effect. For example, when you see somebody smoking in a non-smoking area, who is clearly pissing everybody off, it is usually sufficient to say "We don't mind if you committ suicide but please don't take us with you!" The crowd then laughs at the offender who loses face and usually stubs out his cigarette in embarrassment.

[Pui]

If you conduct an illegal maneuver and don't pull it off and at the same time cause a collision, you should accept a bit of criticism. However with the Thai male, there is no right or wrong, only "you cannot complain me" I'll resort to ultra violence. So Thai's are above reproach, they are so perfect that they cannot be criticised?

This is a real social problem here in addition, some of their driving skills out there are horrendous.

Hope the assailant goes to prison for a long time .Perhaps he can rekindle his massage skills inside. Nasty piece of work.

[chrisinth]

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How bad is this, the guy was carrying. A knife, ??? Who in there right mind would carry a knife ???

I know a few things annoy us here, but it ain't worth confronting any of them, you just never know.....

Hope the guy makes a full recovery....

I carry a knife with me everyday. Have done for the last 40 odd years. Obviously don't take it on planes with me, but will have one available at my destination place of work. Habitual I suppose.

He is a butcher after all, but the question would be what would he want with one doing massages?

To be clear, I don't carry a knife for self protection or to cause injury to others.

[Pui]

I find that calmly saying "Ba ba bor bor" (you crazy bugger!) whilst shaking your head is usually enough to get the message across. In Asia you have to cause the offender to lose face as shouting does not have the intended effect. For example, when you see somebody smoking in a non-smoking area, who is clearly pissing everybody off, it is usually sufficient to say "We don't mind if you committ suicide but please don't take us with you!" The crowd then laughs at the offender who loses face and usually stubs out his cigarette in embarrassment.

Yes in the cool calm and collective environment reading this over your breakfast. However if you've just been eating concrete cause some moron decides to perform a U-turn and knock you off your bike you might be in a different frame of mind.

Why do so many commenter's take the side of the of the wrong doer? Its like "i've been here years, let me give you some advise..."

Especially if you can say something witty in Thai, you'll be fine...

Give me a break!

[Maroon Watcher]

...or human beings...?

How bad is this, the guy was carrying. A knife, ??? Who in there right mind would carry a knife ???

I know a few things annoy us here, but it ain't worth confronting any of them, you just never know.....

Hope the guy makes a full recovery....

tHIS is very bad. why oh why dont the thais act like americans, brits, italians

[biplanebluey]

Well it happened at 10:30pm and it looks like Daniel still has his shades on there in ER, so maybe he didn't see Prasit coming?

Funny no mention whether or not the American was drunk on his cycle.That could have been a cause for frustration if wandering on the road------- just a point

[Moouan]

What bothers me is the number of posters who seem to be implying the Thai was somehow justified in his actions. Whilst we may not know all the facts anybody who pulls a knife and inflicts that kind of damage is guilty of attempted murder and should spend a very long time behind bars.

If you or your loved ones are in danger then this may be acceptable, but this ridiculous bullshit Thai idea of loss of face is not sufficient justification for trying to kill someone.

Thais are 'CHILDREN WITH GUNS'. They are mostly dim and unable to process their emotions, they will never be able to compete with the other ASEAN nations, I worry for the future of this country.

Edited August 7, 2014 by Moouan

[tonypace02]

" Khun Prasit aged 29 works as a part-time masseur, when he is not at his full-time job as a butcher." The man was only doing his job.