webfact Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 SURROGACY SCANDALDNA tests show 9 babies fathered by same man The NationJapanese suspect still at large; care of found infants now top priority BANGKOK: -- The nine infants discovered in a police raid last week at a Bangkok condominium in connection with unauthorised surrogacy were fathered by the same man. However, a DNA link between them and a Japanese billionaire has yet to be found, assistant national police chief Pol Lt General Jongjate Aojanepong said yesterday. The suspect is still at large. Fifteen infants are registered as children of Mitsutoki Shigeta, 24, a Japanese businessman, he said. Four of them, two of whom are twins, have departed the Kingdom holding Thai passports. Of the nine found at the condominium on Soi Lat Phrao 130, six are boys, Jongjate said, adding that further DNA verification was pending to establish who their mothers are and who fathered them. A police source said later that there were 11 surrogate mothers for the 15 infants, who were delivered at nine hospitals. They include twins just discovered at a Bangkok hospital where they had recently been delivered, while another infant has been discovered who is possibly a 16th child fathered by Shigeta, through surrogacy by a Thai woman identified merely as "Phaithoon", the source said. Shigeta left Thailand last week when a second much-heralded surrogacy furore surrounding him was at its height, making it currently impossible to obtain his DNA for verification and paternal checks. Immigration Police yesterday showed the past four years' travel records for Shigeta. He has entered and left Thailand in a total of 40 trips since 2010, and was accompanied on three of the departures with a total of four children of unknown names and ages. He was accompanied by one child on May 9, 2013, by one child on March 25 this year, and by two children last Wednesday, according to Immigration Police records. He last entered Thailand on August 1, with a female with the same surname. The woman left Thailand on August 5 for Phnom Penh, followed by Shigeta for Macau two days later. This information contradicts earlier details about him having left the country with two children one day earlier. Some have Caucasian features Jongjate said some of the nine babies found during last week's raid had Caucasian features, which was the same information given recently by former cabinet minister Paveena Hongsakul, who led the raid at the condominium. This could mean that some of their surrogate mothers are Western women hired by Shigeta, while the police source did not give details of whether the potential 11 mothers included any Westerners. Deputy national police chief Pol General Aek Angsananont said the priority now was to protect the 15 babies, and the nine discovered at the condominium were currently in the custody of a government home for children. He described the surrogacy involving Shigeta as an "activity breeding a large number of children without love and bonding, which may lead to damage to society". Jongjate said he would rather call what had gone on "the manufacture of babies" than surrogacy, and vowed that police would find out why the father in question would need a large number of babies through such a method, instead of marrying a woman and naturally having children with her. "This is certainly not normal. There must be something hidden behind this," he added. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/DNA-tests-show-9-babies-fathered-by-same-man-30240805.html [thenation]2014-08-13[/thenation] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Busy man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 . . . and you wonderful "authorities" just let him leave with yet another child . . . he was under suspicion/investigation at the time, why let him leave? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyp Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 This story gets freakier by the day! Now there's the same man fathering these babies? Who is this Japanese billionaire?? When the surrogate for Gammy lashed out to the Australian couple telling the father that he isn't the real father-- Does that mean the rumoured Japanese billionaire is the father? If I were reading a crime novel that had these twists in the plot, I would have put the book down for being contrived and unrealistic! Lord, you can't make this stuff up! I hope the authorities continue investing hard cuz this is some fine entertainment. Keep it coming, I'm a big fan! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 But what are the Governments doing about this? If the guys sperm has fathered these children are they his? This is a suspicious case, why so many children? So you can have as many as you want? Will the yen be better back home to on sell these children? Get's you thinking . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 The question is why? Was that person thinking of something like that movie "The Island" (Ewan McGreggor and Scarlet Johansson) where those persons were being raised for their organs, pianos and clarinets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCer Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 More details needed. Have the babies been conceived by IVF or through natural process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatdixon Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Makes you wonder the intentions of needing many babies. Asian Mormon? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climbertrev1 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 . . . and you wonderful "authorities" just let him leave with yet another child . . . he was under suspicion/investigation at the time, why let him leave? The same reason a Swede who murdered a Kiwi by stabbing him in the back, a Norwegian who threw his girlfriend off a 5th floor balcony are now living back in Scandinavia in comfort and freedom. I am sure there are many other examples of individuals paying off the authorities. The corruption in the Thai system is so embedded that the rich can do just what they want. It doesn't matter if they are Thai or foreign. Money talks in this place. The cost of escaping a murder charge appears to be about a million baht incidently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike324 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 All I can think is that this is a baby mill, perhaps asian babies with some western features will make it easier to sell and more attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilgoster Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I remember when it was a badge of manhood to have fathered children strewn worldwide. My, my, how the icons fall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) If they are his children and he is caring for them, I am not sure what crime he has committed on Thai soil. Since when is it illegal to pay for someone to produce your own child. Husbands do it every day. The women havent been enslaved to do this it appears. Where is the breach of law in Thailand? Edited August 13, 2014 by Thai at Heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Is there not a psychological condition that causes some men to want to father as many children as possible? A lot of religious cult leaders (male) seem to suffer from it. Edited August 13, 2014 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> If they are his children and he is caring for them, I am not sure what crime he has committed on Thai soil. Since when is it illegal to pay for someone to produce your own child. Husbands do it every day. The women havent been enslaved to do this it appears. Where is the breach of law in Thailand? Perhaps a breach of Thai immigration laws? Coming to Thailand for the purposes of entering into a business arrangment that results in a Thai "product" that is made, sold, and taken out of the country in such an arrangement hardly falls under a tourist visa. It would be more apt that Japanese laws were violated with the "import" of the babies into Japan. Japan bears the responsibility to locate and assure the babies are safe and in the care of their assumed parents and not part of some human trafficking or medical harvesting arrangement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harleyclarkey Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Children, human beings treated like items on a factory production line. No government regulation and nobody gives a toss. Shame on Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiles Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 If he is indeed a billionaire son or from a very rich family, do you think he will be so stupid to get into the baby for sale business? Unless he is being disowned by his family and not much money left. Anyway, by the look of things, he seems to be having strong financial means to get 15 babies into this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhamBam Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Possibly an ego trip for him to know he has fathered so many? Or is he laughing behind everybody's back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYDOUBLEYOU Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 This whole story is mighty strange and quite scary - for the children that is. Surely the real motive must be very questionable. AND I would suggest that the babies born with Caucasian features were more likely the product of Western sperm than a Western womb. Meaning that the Japanese guy may not be the father of all the children, just the 'owner'. Very worrying. J.W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Anyone want to adopt a child in line for a share of a large inheritance? Edited August 13, 2014 by Basil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peecee Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 . . . and you wonderful "authorities" just let him leave with yet another child . . . he was under suspicion/investigation at the time, why let him leave? Just about any border authority would investigate anyone taking a child out with a different name on their passport. Excepting TIT of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 If he is indeed a billionaire son or from a very rich family, do you think he will be so stupid to get into the baby for sale business? Unless he is being disowned by his family and not much money left. Anyway, by the look of things, he seems to be having strong financial means to get 15 babies into this world. Perhaps the baby business is the reason why they are rich. This could have been going on for many years and has only just come to light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFarAndNear Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) If he is indeed a billionaire son or from a very rich family, do you think he will be so stupid to get into the baby for sale business? Unless he is being disowned by his family and not much money left. Anyway, by the look of things, he seems to be having strong financial means to get 15 babies into this world. Perhaps the baby business is the reason why they are rich. This could have been going on for many years and has only just come to light Maybe it means Japanese Yen billionaire. One billion yen is around 1mio USD Edited August 13, 2014 by SoFarAndNear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrilled Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Sounds like an episode I watched on the Jerry Springer Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Sounds like an episode I watched on the Jerry Springer Show Sounds like every episode of the jerry springer show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 "former cabinet minister Paveena Hongsakul, who led the raid at the condominium." couldn't find any police officer to lead the raid.........all busy somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpkt8 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Wow..what is this jap guy thinking? Maybe he wants offsprings to succeed his business empire (since he's a billionaire as reported), but doesn't want a wife to tie him down. Maybe he doesn't even like women at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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