NCPO Chief: Second phase of reform focuses on law rewrite

[millwall_fan]

"certain laws will be revised in order to reduce the overlapping of political and administrative laws and to keep them up-to-date with the current situation."

The above are the key words in Prayuth's speech. This has nothing to do with controlling the ivory trade. This has everything to do with removing even more powers from future elected governments and placing them in the hands of unelected civil servants, who are de facto part of the elite, so that when the inevitable happens and there is a return to 'democracy', Phuea Thai - or their successor party if Prayuths legal friends manage to ban them again - will find that their election victory is a pyrrhic one and that all real power is vested in the agents of the elite.

[billd766]

"certain laws will be revised in order to reduce the overlapping of political and administrative laws and to keep them up-to-date with the current situation."

The above are the key words in Prayuth's speech. This has nothing to do with controlling the ivory trade. This has everything to do with removing even more powers from future elected governments and placing them in the hands of unelected civil servants, who are de facto part of the elite, so that when the inevitable happens and there is a return to 'democracy', Phuea Thai - or their successor party if Prayuths legal friends manage to ban them again - will find that their election victory is a pyrrhic one and that all real power is vested in the agents of the elite.

Civil servants as part of the elite? Really?

Would that mean civil servants worldwide were part of the ruling classes.

I must tell the ladies who sweep the streets and cut down the scrub on the roadside around the village that they are part of the elite of Thailand and they should open offshore bank accounts and tell the Pu Yai Ban why to do.

They could do with a good laugh.

Did you ever support Screaming Lord Sutch and his Monster Raving Loony party in the UK?

W

[dominique355]

Does the law need to be rewritten ?

Proper ENFORCEMENT would be nice or is that too much of a radical idea ?

I can only agree with you, but things are what they are and the police (and other law enforcement branches) are not doing their job. Otherwise the whole coup would not have been necessary.

So obviously some laws need an overhaul. I am afraid, however, that all the wrong laws will be overhauled while those who really do need an amendment will be left untouched. But what can you expect when no input for the people is allowed?

[millwall_fan]

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"certain laws will be revised in order to reduce the overlapping of political and administrative laws and to keep them up-to-date with the current situation."

The above are the key words in Prayuth's speech. This has nothing to do with controlling the ivory trade. This has everything to do with removing even more powers from future elected governments and placing them in the hands of unelected civil servants, who are de facto part of the elite, so that when the inevitable happens and there is a return to 'democracy', Phuea Thai - or their successor party if Prayuths legal friends manage to ban them again - will find that their election victory is a pyrrhic one and that all real power is vested in the agents of the elite.

Civil servants as part of the elite? Really?

Would that mean civil servants worldwide were part of the ruling classes.

I must tell the ladies who sweep the streets and cut down the scrub on the roadside around the village that they are part of the elite of Thailand and they should open offshore bank accounts and tell the Pu Yai Ban why to do.

They could do with a good laugh.

Did you ever support Screaming Lord Sutch and his Monster Raving Loony party in the UK?

W

your post is disingenuous and rather childish as you well know.

[billd766]

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"certain laws will be revised in order to reduce the overlapping of political and administrative laws and to keep them up-to-date with the current situation."

The above are the key words in Prayuth's speech. This has nothing to do with controlling the ivory trade. This has everything to do with removing even more powers from future elected governments and placing them in the hands of unelected civil servants, who are de facto part of the elite, so that when the inevitable happens and there is a return to 'democracy', Phuea Thai - or their successor party if Prayuths legal friends manage to ban them again - will find that their election victory is a pyrrhic one and that all real power is vested in the agents of the elite.

Civil servants as part of the elite? Really?

Would that mean civil servants worldwide were part of the ruling classes.

I must tell the ladies who sweep the streets and cut down the scrub on the roadside around the village that they are part of the elite of Thailand and they should open offshore bank accounts and tell the Pu Yai Ban why to do.

They could do with a good laugh.

Did you ever support Screaming Lord Sutch and his Monster Raving Loony party in the UK?

W

your post is disingenuous and rather childish as you well know.

Your words and not mine

Quote "This has everything to do with removing even more powers from future elected governments and placing them in the hands of unelected civil servants, who are de facto part of the elite,".

I merely took what you said at face value and commented on it.

If you didn't mean what you wrote and actually meant certain groups then why did you not write what you mean.

All you do is carp and whine at the current rulers of Thailand and long for the old corrupt days under the PTP.

There is nothing that you or I or anybody else who posts on Thai Visa can do to change the way things are under whatever government or political party is in power at whatever time.

Go with the flow and try not to be too negative. It will spoil your day.

If you don't like or want to read my posts then put me on your ignore list. I promise I won't cry about it.

Edited August 24, 2014 by billd766

[Thanet]

Does the law need to be rewritten ?

Proper ENFORCEMENT would be nice or is that too much of a radical idea ?

The junta believes that the law needs to be rewritten so as to prevent the citizenry from wielding any meaningful political power.

Keeping those bloody peasants down at heel has always been a priority for the powers that be.

Please try to make sense. I realize it may be hard for you.

Why would they rewrite the laws

to prevent the citizenry from wielding any meaningful political power

If the citizenry had always been held down?

Apart from sneering disagreement, what are you offering by way of sensible argument to rebut my post?

I don't think you can offer anything.

What have military governments ever done for the people? Make me a list.

[northernjohn]

"certain laws will be revised in order to reduce the overlapping of political and administrative laws and to keep them up-to-date with the current situation."

The above are the key words in Prayuth's speech. This has nothing to do with controlling the ivory trade. This has everything to do with removing even more powers from future elected governments and placing them in the hands of unelected civil servants, who are de facto part of the elite, so that when the inevitable happens and there is a return to 'democracy', Phuea Thai - or their successor party if Prayuths legal friends manage to ban them again - will find that their election victory is a pyrrhic one and that all real power is vested in the agents of the elite.

Seems to me you have been weeping all along about it being in the hands of the elite. Except when it came to Thaksin. He could do no wrong.

[northernjohn]

AND...

What about the recent comment from Prayeth about telling immigration not to be strict about teachers with visas? Because recent immigration activity may create a English teacher shortage. Ya think?

Why not fix the law so immigration doesn't have a choice? Why not dump the 90 day crap?

A temporary "looking the other way" fixes nothing. It just leaves the door open to more scare tactics.

As usual, rhetoric fixes nothing.

Well based on your idea that every Thai should learn English no matter that it will be of no use to them in their future life would you not agree that their is already a shortage of English teachers. I know an Irishman who talks so fast natural first language English speakers can not understand him.

Kind of like when I went to a Catholic school every one was expected to learn Latin. I didn't and it has in no way interfered with my life. Or in Canada where every student is expected to learn French. I know many successful people who didn't and they have no problem with not knowing it.

Yes there is a lot of people in the class rooms called English teachers that are first language English speakers but the only place they can be understood is in the area they came from.

To top that I have a friend who is an English teacher. They have a masters in English. They told me that the hardest thing they ever did was take the class to certify them. I believe it is tfal. Sorry about that. In other words it is one thing to know the subject but a completely different thing to impart that knowledge.

The long and the short of it is how many people future wise will ever need it compared to the one's who will need Mathematics. Yet today we see them all using a calculator to subtract 90 baht from 100 baht. Or world history we here in Chiang Mai have seen them honoring the Nazis' They use Hitler to sell chicken in Bangkok. I think a bit of knowledge about the world out side the borders of Thailand will do the majority of them far more good in their latter life than speaking English. I have a Thai wife who is not unusual in her belief that if it is not Thai it is no good. They defiantly need education about the rest of the world.

Don't get me wrong I think speaking English would be nice but put it in it's proper perspective to the education of a Thai.

Paying two to three times the wages to a foreigner to teach English than they pay to a Thai to teach mathematics is a drain on the system. Both teachers being of equal ability.

Edited August 24, 2014 by northernjohn

[expat888]

AND...

What about the recent comment from Prayeth about telling immigration not to be strict about teachers with visas? Because recent immigration activity may create a English teacher shortage. Ya think?

Why not fix the law so immigration doesn't have a choice? Why not dump the 90 day crap?

A temporary "looking the other way" fixes nothing. It just leaves the door open to more scare tactics.

As usual, rhetoric fixes nothing.

Well based on your idea that every Thai should learn English no matter that it will be of no use to them in their future life would you not agree that their is already a shortage of English teachers. I know an Irishman who talks so fast natural first language English speakers can not understand him.

Kind of like when I went to a Catholic school every one was expected to learn Latin. I didn't and it has in no way interfered with my life. Or in Canada where every student is expected to learn French. I know many successful people who didn't and they have no problem with not knowing it.

Yes there is a lot of people in the class rooms called English teachers that are first language English speakers but the only place they can be understood is in the area they came from.

To top that I have a friend who is an English teacher. They have a masters in English. They told me that the hardest thing they ever did was take the class to certify them. I believe it is tfal. Sorry about that. In other words it is one thing to know the subject but a completely different thing to impart that knowledge.

The long and the short of it is how many people future wise will ever need it compared to the one's who will need Mathematics. Yet today we see them all using a calculator to subtract 90 baht from 100 baht. Or world history we here in Chiang Mai have seen them honoring the Nazis' They use Hitler to sell chicken in Bangkok. I think a bit of knowledge about the world out side the borders of Thailand will do the majority of them far more good in their latter life than speaking English. I have a Thai wife who is not unusual in her belief that if it is not Thai it is no good. They defiantly need education about the rest of the world.

Don't get me wrong I think speaking English would be nice but put it in it's proper perspective to the education of a Thai.

Paying two to three times the wages to a foreigner to teach English than they pay to a Thai to teach mathematics is a drain on the system. Both teachers being of equal ability.

That is pretty amazing you came up with all those conclusions from my post.

Between fantisizing and generating from thin air, you missed the point.