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Ranong private sector call for Kra Isthmus Canal project revival

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Hmmm...how shall they prevent smuggling? Barricaded watchtowers and searchlights at every 100m? Both sides of the proposed canal.

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Seems like this is 50 years too late. It's hard to imagine Thailand would ever recover it's investment on this. Shipping industry has been on decline since 2008. By cutting out Singapore the advantage is only like 2 shipping days, so the toll any ships would pay would be very minimal. Also Singapore is a logistic distribution center as well, which Thailand isn't.

Finally, there's the point that Mojomor mentioned about China building shipping link with Myanmar as well.

Sorry Thailand, but as we everything you're still stuck in the 19th and 20th century. The world has moved on to the 21st century. Too bad.

These seem to me to be reasons why it wouldn't work. The "Ranong private sector" just seems to be a bit naive to me in thinking that they will magically get all of the traffic that currently passes Singapore.

It seems it's sell by date expired when China and Myanmar came to an agreement on the big new port on the western seaboard of Myanmar, and the rail lines linking it to China.

I've been wondering about this as well with all the talk about new rail links to China in Thailand. Why is it important? The exit to the sea is into the Gulf of Thailand, not the open ocean. China already has access to the South China Sea from its own territory and building rail links through Myanmar makes more sense to access the open ocean towards the west. Both access points are further north and require less rail as well. I suppose the mountains in northern Myanmar are an obstical, but it looks like that's been accounted for.

"I suppose the mountains in northern Myanmar are an obstacle, but it looks like that's been accounted for."

The Chinese are very familiar with mountains and railways, they built the railroads in western North America through the Rockies and Tibet, western China.

The Myanmar, Thilawa and Kyaukphayu ports are being developed by Japanese and Chinese consortiums. I think the canal at Khra is an opium laced dream.

Could be, but LiuGong and XCMG are setting up a preparations group for its construction (as per ChinaDailyMail in March).

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Seems like this is 50 years too late. It's hard to imagine Thailand would ever recover it's investment on this. Shipping industry has been on decline since 2008. By cutting out Singapore the advantage is only like 2 shipping days, so the toll any ships would pay would be very minimal. Also Singapore is a logistic distribution center as well, which Thailand isn't.

Finally, there's the point that Mojomor mentioned about China building shipping link with Myanmar as well.

Sorry Thailand, but as we everything you're still stuck in the 19th and 20th century. The world has moved on to the 21st century. Too bad.

These seem to me to be reasons why it wouldn't work. The "Ranong private sector" just seems to be a bit naive to me in thinking that they will magically get all of the traffic that currently passes Singapore.

It seems it's sell by date expired when China and Myanmar came to an agreement on the big new port on the western seaboard of Myanmar, and the rail lines linking it to China.

I've been wondering about this as well with all the talk about new rail links to China in Thailand. Why is it important? The exit to the sea is into the Gulf of Thailand, not the open ocean. China already has access to the South China Sea from its own territory and building rail links through Myanmar makes more sense to access the open ocean towards the west. Both access points are further north and require less rail as well. I suppose the mountains in northern Myanmar are an obstical, but it looks like that's been accounted for.

"I suppose the mountains in northern Myanmar are an obstacle, but it looks like that's been accounted for."

The Chinese are very familiar with mountains and railways, they built the railroads in western North America through the Rockies and Tibet, western China.

The Myanmar, Thilawa and Kyaukphayu ports are being developed by Japanese and Chinese consortiums. I think the canal at Khra is an opium laced dream.

Could be, but LiuGong and XCMG are setting up a preparations group for its construction (as per ChinaDailyMail in March).

Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

Seems like this is 50 years too late. It's hard to imagine Thailand would ever recover it's investment on this. Shipping industry has been on decline since 2008. By cutting out Singapore the advantage is only like 2 shipping days, so the toll any ships would pay would be very minimal. Also Singapore is a logistic distribution center as well, which Thailand isn't.

Finally, there's the point that Mojomor mentioned about China building shipping link with Myanmar as well.

Sorry Thailand, but as we everything you're still stuck in the 19th and 20th century. The world has moved on to the 21st century. Too bad.

These seem to me to be reasons why it wouldn't work. The "Ranong private sector" just seems to be a bit naive to me in thinking that they will magically get all of the traffic that currently passes Singapore.

It seems it's sell by date expired when China and Myanmar came to an agreement on the big new port on the western seaboard of Myanmar, and the rail lines linking it to China.

I've been wondering about this as well with all the talk about new rail links to China in Thailand. Why is it important? The exit to the sea is into the Gulf of Thailand, not the open ocean. China already has access to the South China Sea from its own territory and building rail links through Myanmar makes more sense to access the open ocean towards the west. Both access points are further north and require less rail as well. I suppose the mountains in northern Myanmar are an obstical, but it looks like that's been accounted for.

"I suppose the mountains in northern Myanmar are an obstacle, but it looks like that's been accounted for."

The Chinese are very familiar with mountains and railways, they built the railroads in western North America through the Rockies and Tibet, western China.

The Myanmar, Thilawa and Kyaukphayu ports are being developed by Japanese and Chinese consortiums. I think the canal at Khra is an opium laced dream.

Could be, but LiuGong and XCMG are setting up a preparations group for its construction (as per ChinaDailyMail in March).

Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

Seems like this is 50 years too late. It's hard to imagine Thailand would ever recover it's investment on this. Shipping industry has been on decline since 2008. By cutting out Singapore the advantage is only like 2 shipping days, so the toll any ships would pay would be very minimal. Also Singapore is a logistic distribution center as well, which Thailand isn't.

Finally, there's the point that Mojomor mentioned about China building shipping link with Myanmar as well.

Sorry Thailand, but as we everything you're still stuck in the 19th and 20th century. The world has moved on to the 21st century. Too bad.

These seem to me to be reasons why it wouldn't work. The "Ranong private sector" just seems to be a bit naive to me in thinking that they will magically get all of the traffic that currently passes Singapore.

It seems it's sell by date expired when China and Myanmar came to an agreement on the big new port on the western seaboard of Myanmar, and the rail lines linking it to China.

I've been wondering about this as well with all the talk about new rail links to China in Thailand. Why is it important? The exit to the sea is into the Gulf of Thailand, not the open ocean. China already has access to the South China Sea from its own territory and building rail links through Myanmar makes more sense to access the open ocean towards the west. Both access points are further north and require less rail as well. I suppose the mountains in northern Myanmar are an obstical, but it looks like that's been accounted for.

"I suppose the mountains in northern Myanmar are an obstacle, but it looks like that's been accounted for."

The Chinese are very familiar with mountains and railways, they built the railroads in western North America through the Rockies and Tibet, western China.

The Myanmar, Thilawa and Kyaukphayu ports are being developed by Japanese and Chinese consortiums. I think the canal at Khra is an opium laced dream.

Could be, but LiuGong and XCMG are setting up a preparations group for its construction (as per ChinaDailyMail in March).

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Have any of the parties suggesting this rally considered the cost and scale of this endeavor? We are talking about cutting through mountains that are hundreds of meters tall, across a land mass of about 100km. Not to mention the safety issues pertaining to potential tsunamis, etc. And the channel would have to be 200 to 300 meters across, necessitating significant bridge projects. Is all this feasible? Who pays for this? The last thing in the world you would want to do would be to get China involved in this project.

The last thing who would want?

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