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What's the point of organic food if you eat butter and beef?

it's like asking a blind driver to put seat belt on

Without wanting to discuss the need or not need of meat:

1 ) Taste better

2 ) the animals are treated much better and have a happier life.

3 ) no artificial hormones and less chemicals in the meat

4 ) Less environment damage

so if you decide to eat that, you eat a better quality of it.

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The OP has separated the two

-Beef and butter

- organic food

True!

I assumed that with grass fed beef and butter he meant free range cows who are eating the naturally grown fresh grass (at least in Summer). But he didn't write it.

But that still keeps point 1 ) valid that it tastes better than the usual soya fed and silage fed beef.

Posted

The OP has separated the two

-Beef and butter

- organic food

True!

I assumed that with grass fed beef and butter he meant free range cows who are eating the naturally grown fresh grass (at least in Summer). But he didn't write it.

But that still keeps point 1 ) valid that it tastes better than the usual soya fed and silage fed beef.

Again your reptilian brain confuses you.

A cow is not a beef.

Cows are bred, made pregnant and tortured to artificially produce milk until their body cannot do it anymore and get inhumanely terminated.

Beef are the males.

Many “organically raised” cows are sent to factory-farm feedlots to be fattened prior to slaughter, where they are caked with feces and mud. Cows who are fattened on feedlots can still be labeled organic as long as they’re given organic feed.

Also organic and free-range animals are killed in the same filthy slaughterhouses as animals from factory farms, so their flesh is subject to the same potential for bacterial contamination from unsanitary conditions.

Posted

The OP has separated the two

-Beef and butter

- organic food

True!

I assumed that with grass fed beef and butter he meant free range cows who are eating the naturally grown fresh grass (at least in Summer). But he didn't write it.

But that still keeps point 1 ) valid that it tastes better than the usual soya fed and silage fed beef.

Again your reptilian brain confuses you.

A cow is not a beef.

Cows are bred, made pregnant and tortured to artificially produce milk until their body cannot do it anymore and get inhumanely terminated.

Beef are the males.

Many “organically raised” cows are sent to factory-farm feedlots to be fattened prior to slaughter, where they are caked with feces and mud. Cows who are fattened on feedlots can still be labeled organic as long as they’re given organic feed.

Also organic and free-range animals are killed in the same filthy slaughterhouses as animals from factory farms, so their flesh is subject to the same potential for bacterial contamination from unsanitary conditions.

OK, I am got a bit confused of the word cow in English but Wikipedia tells: "Beef is the culinary name for meat from bovines, especially cattle. Beef can be harvested from cows, bulls, heifers or steers" that includes cows.

I really dislike the factory like mass production of beef and milk. Where I come from, often the cows still stay on the grass (outside) and the milk is taken in the morning and evening. I mean organic feed and free range (the laws what organic means differ in different countries).

I also dislike the practice in slaughterhouses specially if they uses halal without anesthetic which get more and more common in Europe. But I am not aware of any unsanitary conditions or any diseases from unsanitary slaughterhouses either in Thailand or Europe or North America.

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The OP has separated the two

-Beef and butter

- organic food

True!

I assumed that with grass fed beef and butter he meant free range cows who are eating the naturally grown fresh grass (at least in Summer). But he didn't write it.

But that still keeps point 1 ) valid that it tastes better than the usual soya fed and silage fed beef.

Again your reptilian brain confuses you.

A cow is not a beef.

Cows are bred, made pregnant and tortured to artificially produce milk until their body cannot do it anymore and get inhumanely terminated.

Beef are the males.

Many “organically raised” cows are sent to factory-farm feedlots to be fattened prior to slaughter, where they are caked with feces and mud. Cows who are fattened on feedlots can still be labeled organic as long as they’re given organic feed.

Also organic and free-range animals are killed in the same filthy slaughterhouses as animals from factory farms, so their flesh is subject to the same potential for bacterial contamination from unsanitary conditions.

OK, I am got a bit confused of the word cow in English but Wikipedia tells: "Beef is the culinary name for meat from bovines, especially cattle. Beef can be harvested from cows, bulls, heifers or steers" that includes cows.

I really dislike the factory like mass production of beef and milk. Where I come from, often the cows still stay on the grass (outside) and the milk is taken in the morning and evening. I mean organic feed and free range (the laws what organic means differ in different countries).

I also dislike the practice in slaughterhouses specially if they uses halal without anesthetic which get more and more common in Europe. But I am not aware of any unsanitary conditions or any diseases from unsanitary slaughterhouses either in Thailand or Europe or North America.

Because that's what the meat industry isdoing

They sell you cow (female) for beef.

99% of so-called beef are actually cows.

Read the book "slaughterhouse" there is not one single US slaughterhouse in norm with regulations regarding animals and respect of hygiene/animal abuse .

Thailand has no regulation so it says it all.

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True!

I assumed that with grass fed beef and butter he meant free range cows who are eating the naturally grown fresh grass (at least in Summer). But he didn't write it.

But that still keeps point 1 ) valid that it tastes better than the usual soya fed and silage fed beef.

Again your reptilian brain confuses you.

A cow is not a beef.

Cows are bred, made pregnant and tortured to artificially produce milk until their body cannot do it anymore and get inhumanely terminated.

Beef are the males.

Many “organically raised” cows are sent to factory-farm feedlots to be fattened prior to slaughter, where they are caked with feces and mud. Cows who are fattened on feedlots can still be labeled organic as long as they’re given organic feed.

Also organic and free-range animals are killed in the same filthy slaughterhouses as animals from factory farms, so their flesh is subject to the same potential for bacterial contamination from unsanitary conditions.

OK, I am got a bit confused of the word cow in English but Wikipedia tells: "Beef is the culinary name for meat from bovines, especially cattle. Beef can be harvested from cows, bulls, heifers or steers" that includes cows.

I really dislike the factory like mass production of beef and milk. Where I come from, often the cows still stay on the grass (outside) and the milk is taken in the morning and evening. I mean organic feed and free range (the laws what organic means differ in different countries).

I also dislike the practice in slaughterhouses specially if they uses halal without anesthetic which get more and more common in Europe. But I am not aware of any unsanitary conditions or any diseases from unsanitary slaughterhouses either in Thailand or Europe or North America.

Because that's what the meat industry isdoing

They sell you cow (female) for beef.

99% of so-called beef are actually cows.

Read the book "slaughterhouse" there is not one single US slaughterhouse in norm with regulations regarding animals and respect of hygiene/animal abuse .

Thailand has no regulation so it says it all.

I have no problem with cow (female) for beef licklips.gif.pagespeed.ce.v-hsVd-Wpu.gif

I am European and have no idea about US slaughterhouses, but considering that USA beef is regarded as top quality and even sensitive countries like Austria or Russia never had any hygiene issues, I doubt the hygiene thing.

But I easily believe the animal abuse and I don't like it.

Posted

Because that's what the meat industry isdoing

They sell you cow (female) for beef.

99% of so-called beef are actually cows.

Read the book "slaughterhouse" there is not one single US slaughterhouse in norm with regulations regarding animals and respect of hygiene/animal abuse .

Thailand has no regulation so it says it all.

I have no problem with cow (female) for beef licklips.gif.pagespeed.ce.v-hsVd-Wpu.gif

I am European and have no idea about US slaughterhouses, but considering that USA beef is regarded as top quality and even sensitive countries like Austria or Russia never had any hygiene issues, I doubt the hygiene thing.

But I easily believe the animal abuse and I don't like it.

Beef is supposedly more muscly, better tasting, don't worry if they lie to you, it's because they sell more by labelling it "beef"

I am european too and US slaughterhouses are the same everywhere, we don't have better slaughterhouses.

Hygiene is bad,animal abuse is common place

That's just one example in Norway but it's the same everywhere

http://www.newsinenglish.no/2013/03/06/poor-hygiene-at-slaughterhouses/

Just look at these pics from a simple gg search

https://www.google.com/search?q=slaughterhouse+hygiene&client=firefox-a&hs=tRM&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&biw=1280&bih=663&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=qr0NVMXoM5HnuQSW4oK4AQ&ved=0CFAQsAQ4Cg

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