webfact Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Medics at fault in botched Oklahoma execution(BBC) -- A report into a botched execution in Oklahoma in April has found medical staff failed to place and monitor an intravenous line properly.Clayton Lockett, 38, died 43 minutes after he was given a lethal drug.The Oklahoma governor ordered an independent review into the case after witnesses said they saw Lockett writhing and gasping for air.There had been concerns about the effectiveness of a new cocktail of drugs used in the execution.Lockett was sentenced to death on 20 April for the 1999 shooting of Stephanie Nieman, 19, and for watching as two accomplices buried her alive.His execution was stopped after 20 minutes after witnesses saw him writhing and mumbling words.A ruptured vein was discovered and Lockett subsequently died of a heart attack soon afterwards.Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29072384-- BBC 2014-09-05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVGerry Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 While I'm all for a 'humane' way of executing someone, I think this guy got what he deserved. I mean burying someone alive?!?! Wow justice is served if he suffered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 So if you botch an execution, what is the charge? Murder? Manslaughter? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyummer Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The medical staff should be given medals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The medical staff should be given medals. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritzzz25 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 USA could save a lot of money and not have to worry about these botched executions. They could just turn them over to ISIS in exchange for the innocent people that ISIS is slaughtering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomyummer Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 The medical staff should be given medals.Why? Because any botched execution of low life animals to share some sliver of the fear and suffering that they inflicted on their victims seems only fair and just. Humane executions for convicted criminals are too easy a way out. In fact, all criminals should be executed in the same manner(s) as their victims. Just my opinion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 While I'm all for a 'humane' way of executing someone, I think this guy got what he deserved. I mean burying someone alive?!?! Wow justice is served if he suffered. I am struggling to understand why a large calibre bullet to the back of the head is inhumane, granted messy, but not inhumane 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 What went wrong with the execution was not that he was writhing and mumbling words, but that he had 20 minutes of a drug-induced high....it was probably pleasant. I would not wish pleasantness on that murderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Humane executions for convicted criminals are too easy a way out. In fact, all criminals should be executed in the same manner(s) as their victims. Just my opinion. An "eye for an eye" philosophy is so old hat...., done away with anciently and replaced with a philosophy of love, rehabilitation and forgiveness and continued by a large portion of the globe. You will possibly not feel the same when a dog runs our in front of your vehicle and whilst you swerve to avoid the dog, you wipe out a roadside stall complete with baby asleep beneath! But you are quite entitled to your view along with the youngest of the three (or four if you include the House of Israel) oldest surviving universal religions..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Well ! I for one forgive them. An honest mistake I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyummer Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Humane executions for convicted criminals are too easy a way out. In fact, all criminals should be executed in the same manner(s) as their victims. Just my opinion. An "eye for an eye" philosophy is so old hat...., done away with anciently and replaced with a philosophy of love, rehabilitation and forgiveness and continued by a large portion of the globe. You will possibly not feel the same when a dog runs our in front of your vehicle and whilst you swerve to avoid the dog, you wipe out a roadside stall complete with baby asleep beneath! But you are quite entitled to your view along with the youngest of the three (or four if you include the House of Israel) oldest surviving universal religions..... An accident versus a heinous crime with intent. Not the same. The philosophy of love, rehabilitation, and forgiveness is nice on paper but doesn't really exist (although I wish it did) in the real world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiready Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Nothin Botched......sentence was delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) While I'm all for a 'humane' way of executing someone, I think this guy got what he deserved. I mean burying someone alive?!?! Wow justice is served if he suffered. I am struggling to understand why a large calibre bullet to the back of the head is inhumane, granted messy, but not inhumane Very messy indeed. Think of the people that have to go in there and look at it and clean it up. Not much fun I would have guess. In a lot of cases the people charged with carrying out the execution actually live side by side together for years in a harmonious inmate / corrections officer relationship. Shot to the back of the head is bad for morale. That said I am sure that there would be certain elements in the military SF world that would find good use for them as a training add. And wouldn't lose a winks sleep over it. Edited September 5, 2014 by coma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Nothin Botched......sentence was delivered. Yeap. Achieved their objective. Mission accomplished. Crack on with the next one. Edited September 5, 2014 by coma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If they want to punish the guy for botching the execution, OK. I think they should not give him his 45 minutes of overtime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Execution just makes a people and a government, murderers. We are supposed to be better than those "scum" remember?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 back to the guillotine .... eco friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 While I'm all for a 'humane' way of executing someone, I think this guy got what he deserved. I mean burying someone alive?!?! Wow justice is served if he suffered. I am struggling to understand why a large calibre bullet to the back of the head is inhumane, granted messy, but not inhumane Very messy indeed. Think of the people that have to go in there and look at it and clean it up. Put a big sheet of plastic on the floor. Haven't you ever watched Dexter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Just wonder, did Clayton Lockett complain? No?So what's the big deal? Edited September 5, 2014 by JoeLing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If they want it done right they should take them to the vet. They do this stuff all day long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank James Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 These sorts of situations always bring out the most thoughtful posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 One thing is for sure, I did not loose any sleep when I originally read the story of the botched execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The medical staff should be given medals. Why? Because hopefully he suffered some like he caused the girl to suffer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richusa Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 So, what's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The medical staff should be given medals. Why? Apparently for being incompetent! Yes the guy is certainly dead, but the sentence was death, not torture followed by death. The torture was unsanctioned and hence illegal and a travesty. We are some years beyond hung, drawn and quartered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkyCowboy Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 While I'm all for a 'humane' way of executing someone, I think this guy got what he deserved. I mean burying someone alive?!?! Wow justice is served if he suffered. I am struggling to understand why a large calibre bullet to the back of the head is inhumane, granted messy, but not inhumane I am in favor of sending the vicious criminals to North Korea for rehabilitation etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkyCowboy Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) The medical staff should be given medals. Why? Apparently for being incompetent! Yes the guy is certainly dead, but the sentence was death, not torture followed by death. The torture was unsanctioned and hence illegal and a travesty. We are some years beyond hung, drawn and quartered. A bleeding heart liberal is crying for a nasty bastard. I am in favor of roasting on an open fire until "cooked" Edited September 8, 2014 by BlueSkyCowboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The medical staff should be given medals. Why? Apparently for being incompetent! Yes the guy is certainly dead, but the sentence was death, not torture followed by death. The torture was unsanctioned and hence illegal and a travesty. We are some years beyond hung, drawn and quartered. A bleeding heart liberal is crying for a nasty bastard. I am in favor of roasting on an open fire until "cooked" I don't feel the 'justice system' is about being sadistic. You don't know me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Oh, the problem with quality control and assurance on executions. How long is too long? I believe there were people who actually lived through the electric chair and then were re-executed later. The Supreme Court decided that executing someone twice was not cruel and unusual punishment. Cruel it might not be, but unusual it definitely is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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