Popular Post BigC Posted September 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2014 This is a response to another thread where someone just asked a question and the thread turned into a debate as to why he asked ask a simple question rather than just simply answered his question I sometimes ask questions that I could look up on google on here because answers could benefit other people also For example if other people were in the same boat then they can help each other with questions that other might need to know 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PiPiFFS Posted September 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2014 It is my pet hate. TV used to be for that very thing but now if you dare to ask a question more often than not you get a smart a@$ed anwer telling you Google is your friend or to just use the search option. Sometimes though doing the above just gets you pages of out of date info whereas asking here can get you an answer from someone that has the very answer you want and is willing to post the answer you need. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 It is my pet hate. TV used to be for that very thing but now if you dare to ask a question more often than not you get a smart a@$ed anwer telling you Google is your friend or to just use the search option. Sometimes though doing the above just gets you pages of out of date info whereas asking here can get you an answer from someone that has the very answer you want and is willing to post the answer you need. Having "liked" the previous smart a--- google comment, but being too slow to realise that it was intended in that manner, on reflection, I quite agree with you PiPiFFS. It's been a while since this forum was as friendly as it was. A bit of a pity that really. Consequently I have "unliked" my "like" even though I love Google as a tool and will always use it first before coming on here to do so, for the very reasons mentioned above. On that note but I guess slightly off topic, I tried to Google to find out where Cafe Zazen went to from the new Central Festival. Does anyone know? Shame really it was a smart and nice looking place with great beer. It has left quite a void. I checked their Facebook page but nothing is mentioned there. Has it moved somewhere or just closed down? Bit off topic as I said, but not really in the sense that I'm doing a Visa vs. Google test! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 It is my pet hate. TV used to be for that very thing but now if you dare to ask a question more often than not you get a smart a@$ed anwer telling you Google is your friend or to just use the search option. Sometimes though doing the above just gets you pages of out of date info whereas asking here can get you an answer from someone that has the very answer you want and is willing to post the answer you need. Having "liked" the previous smart a--- google comment, but being too slow to realise that it was intended in that manner, on reflection, I quite agree with you PiPiFFS. It's been a while since this forum was as friendly as it was. A bit of a pity that really. Consequently I have "unliked" my "like" even though I love Google as a tool and will always use it first before coming on here to do so, for the very reasons mentioned above. On that note but I guess slightly off topic, I tried to Google to find out where Cafe Zazen went to from the new Central Festival. Does anyone know? Shame really it was a smart and nice looking place with great beer. It has left quite a void. I checked their Facebook page but nothing is mentioned there. Has it moved somewhere or just closed down? Bit off topic as I said, but not really in the sense that I'm doing a Visa vs. Google test! Is Zazen the one next to The Coffee Club? (Belgium beers etc). If so, it was there two weeks ago when I last visited Central Festival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 This argument about outside links which may contain outdated info depends very much what site and type of information. For example, a whole of of info is on wikipedia, which usually gets updated with current info. So, the argument goes both ways, if we don't mention about resources elsewhere, then the info which was a reply to a question here on thaivisa may with time be outdated too. One should always try to "educate" people to help themselves. I see all the time questions which if they just bothered to do some work themselves, they would be able to get their answers. So if the answer which we provide by replying a question asked here on thaivisa, came from an external site, then naturally it should be mandatory to mention this fact, so people can learn to help themselves in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetphet Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I went there Friday night when I arrived. Was quite looking forward to some mussels and chips. Was quite shocked to see the doors closed, and the workmen in there stripping everything. Perhaps a sign of how quiet things are on the island. Plus the rents there can't be cheap. Back on topic. I sometimes think, "You could have Googled that." But in places such as this where things seem to change so quickly, and shops, restaurants etc, come and go, it is nice to be able to ask a question of people living and working here and get up to date info. It is my pet hate. TV used to be for that very thing but now if you dare to ask a question more often than not you get a smart a@$ed anwer telling you Google is your friend or to just use the search option. Sometimes though doing the above just gets you pages of out of date info whereas asking here can get you an answer from someone that has the very answer you want and is willing to post the answer you need. Having "liked" the previous smart a--- google comment, but being too slow to realise that it was intended in that manner, on reflection, I quite agree with you PiPiFFS. It's been a while since this forum was as friendly as it was. A bit of a pity that really. Consequently I have "unliked" my "like" even though I love Google as a tool and will always use it first before coming on here to do so, for the very reasons mentioned above. On that note but I guess slightly off topic, I tried to Google to find out where Cafe Zazen went to from the new Central Festival. Does anyone know? Shame really it was a smart and nice looking place with great beer. It has left quite a void. I checked their Facebook page but nothing is mentioned there. Has it moved somewhere or just closed down? Bit off topic as I said, but not really in the sense that I'm doing a Visa vs. Google test! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JDGRUEN Posted September 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2014 OP - the problem on Thaivisa.com forums is that far too many TVF members are skirting mental illness and or are just plain drunk or hungover... Some seem to think that they are comedians when 10,000 comedians are out of a job... Thaivisa forums is fast becoming a wasteland of 'gottcha' mentality people who have no life. So they fill it will quick jabs to hurt people in a sort of sadistic way... No rules will be made to control this and maintain civility because some think it is 'cool' to be a sniping jackanape... As a result - those who ask well intended questions become targets for the marginally functioning mentalities ... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yes, of course, when it comes to local questions like that, the best solution is to ask on the forums because it's probably the only way to get up to date info. But for example question regarding the AngThong national park in another thread could have been very easily found by google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post limbos Posted September 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2014 The whole idea about a forum like TV is that you get up to date first hand knowledge, right? Regarding Zazen, it's being relocated, to open soon(-ish). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Post discussing general moderation on TV removed. To the OP concerned , please consult rule copied & pasted below re correct procedures. 10) Do not discuss moderation publicly in the open forum; this includes individual actions, and specific or general policies and issues. You may send a PM to a moderator to discuss individual actions or email support (at) thaivisa.com to discuss moderation policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) OP - the problem on Thaivisa.com forums is that far too many TVF members are skirting mental illness and or are just plain drunk or hungover... Some seem to think that they are comedians when 10,000 comedians are out of a job... Thaivisa forums is fast becoming a wasteland of 'gottcha' mentality people who have no life. So they fill it will quick jabs to hurt people in a sort of sadistic way... No rules will be made to control this and maintain civility because some think it is 'cool' to be a sniping jackanape... As a result - those who ask well intended questions become targets for the marginally functioning mentalities ... As opposed to over educated Kentucky hillbillies whose only contribution to this thread is to be rude and insulting? (and I am neither drunk nor hungover ) Edited September 23, 2014 by Tropicalevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 OP - the problem on Thaivisa.com forums is that far too many TVF members are skirting mental illness and or are just plain drunk or hungover... Some seem to think that they are comedians when 10,000 comedians are out of a job... Thaivisa forums is fast becoming a wasteland of 'gottcha' mentality people who have no life. So they fill it will quick jabs to hurt people in a sort of sadistic way... No rules will be made to control this and maintain civility because some think it is 'cool' to be a sniping jackanape... As a result - those who ask well intended questions become targets for the marginally functioning mentalities ... As opposed to over educated Kentucky hillbillies whose only contribution to this thread is to be rude and insulting? (and I am neither drunk nor hungover ) Just giving back in kind to demonstrate to those who practice daily their thoughtless ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Post discussing moderation removed and warning issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 So this topic is I assume a response to an answer I gave in another topic. If I caused offence, I didn't mean to but there are people on here and various other sites that ask questions that with just a tiny little bit of research would save themselves time and the 'effort' of having to post on a forum. Was it not on here a few years ago, someone was asking where to buy a toothbrush? Silly questions IMHO and I will stand by with what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 So this topic is I assume a response to an answer I gave in another topic. If I caused offence, I didn't mean to but there are people on here and various other sites that ask questions that with just a tiny little bit of research would save themselves time and the 'effort' of having to post on a forum. Was it not on here a few years ago, someone was asking where to buy a toothbrush? Silly questions IMHO and I will stand by with what I said. I saw a post the other day where a regular asked a question about working. I thought it was reasonable because with the new government, where there haven't been changes in visas etc., there have been rumors of changes. I thought the OP was right in asking for current information. Another poster jumped all over his bones and chewed him out for not using the search function or Google. It was downright rude. I didn't like it and I let the antagonist know it in the thread. I got some "likes." I agree that some people are rude, apparently for the sake of being rude and just IMHO those are troll posts. Maybe they aren't by forum rules, but I don't like them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonsalviz Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Then look it up youself and then post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeverSure Posted September 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2014 Then look it up youself and then post it. See, there you go. You can't depend on what you look up right now because it might be out of date. A lot of things have either changed, or been rumored to change. It's better to ask and get answers from people who actually experience it recently. A remark like yours fits the OP exactly. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JDGRUEN Posted September 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2014 Then look it up youself and then post it. See, there you go. You can't depend on what you look up right now because it might be out of date. A lot of things have either changed, or been rumored to change. It's better to ask and get answers from people who actually experience it recently. A remark like yours fits the OP exactly. Also - I have yet to see anyone Forced to open a topic thread and read it... no arm twisting, no coercion ... it just lies there for those who want to open it and contribute... Personally, I pass by dozens of Topics on the Forum as I have no interest or just don't see any sense of it ... I don't feel the urge to go tell the OP he is stupid for asking a question or posting an inane subject... Why waste my time? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 People also say " of you could be bothered to look it up ok google " Let's break this down It takes longer to write a topic and wait for an answer than it does to search google Which means people ask on here to get like people mention up to date answers I mean where do you reckon google get the answers from Posts, websites, forums I bet if you typed into google where Zazen cafe is in central and the topic was already on TV then there's your link Hence the source started right here Forums and questions is what makes up part of google. Google isn't some magic thing that updates all by itself without people manually enquiring and asking questions So for the person that made that stupid comment on another thread. Remember that just because he typed it into google and got an answer could mean that the answer was put there from someone else asking the same question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PattayaPhom Posted September 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2014 The whole idea of forums is to discuss and share information. Whether or not the information can be found on Google/Bing is irrelevant. If everyone used Google, many forums would close down or be inactive. Apart from that, someone asking a question actually educates and informs all readers of that information as it is discussed in the thread. There are many things I am kept updated about Samui, Phuket etc by reading the forums, if each OP hadn't started that thread and used a search engine, I and many others would not have been able to share in that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler1973 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Totally agree with the OP Also, I may google something and it may tell me xy and z but I'd rather an actual person that has visited a place or used a service recently gave me the information as well or confirmed it Also, it's nice to chat, isn't it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 "I didn't like it and I let the antagonist know it in the thread. I got some "likes."" You must be one of the special ones, every time I do that I get "deleted" and most likely earn a suspension point! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 In the old days it was: No question is a dumb question. Today it should be: No question is a dumb question unless you cant find the answer through a Google search. Questions about local things of course are cool. But, many things are better researched through the internet first. People just dont understand how good Google is as an information sharing tool for just about anything you could ever imagine. Its the world's dictionary, encyclopedia, and book of knowledge at your fingertips 24hrs a day for infinity. The real information age started 24 years ago and many people still havent caught up. Just gotta have patience for the older generation Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 How many times have you "Googled" a question and up pops..... Thaivisa? Bear with me on this one. I see many posts that say the post was deleted" by the mod for whatever reason. I'm just wondering if a record is kept of the offenders? Maybe there should be and repeaters get banned. That would stop the nonsense to some degree wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Google search does not exist without people's contributions in whatever forum etc........ You have to have input to have output. Old cliche. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Google search does not exist without people's contributions in whatever forum etc........ You have to have input to have output. Old cliche. Agree but I dont know of a single topic other than MAYBE something local that you cant find on a Goggle search before coming here first. Can you name something? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Google search does not exist without people's contributions in whatever forum etc........ You have to have input to have output. Old cliche. Agree but I dont know of a single topic other than MAYBE something local that you cant find on a Goggle search before coming here first. Can you name something? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Really? Agree but I dont know of a single topic other than MAYBE something local What do you think this forum is all about?Where do you think Google search gets the info from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Google search does not exist without people's contributions in whatever forum etc........ You have to have input to have output. Old cliche.Agree but I dont know of a single topic other than MAYBE something local that you cant find on a Goggle search before coming here first. Can you name something?Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Really? Agree but I dont know of a single topic other than MAYBE something local What do you think this forum is all about?Where do you think Google search gets the info from? And hence why this question was asked. Bottom line if you dont go to google and or do a forum search first you might get called on it. And IMO you deserve to. And this kind of attitude is why I wrote that there are stupid questions in this day and age.... Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Agree but I dont know of a single topic other than MAYBE something local Someone please help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) Folks - you don't have to read what someone posts as a topic thread... you really don't - unless you have obsessive - compulsive disorder... So what is it to you if someone posts a question that could have been answered on google or bing ? Does it harm you in some way? What is it with the compulsion by some TVF members that they have to CONTROL what other people do and say ... Is there some sort of contagious 'Control Freak' disorder being passed around on TVF? What ever happened to 'Mai pen rai' -- no big deal - to each his own - live and let live ... to - mind your own business? Wow - Just WOW! at the never ending busy bodies that reside here... old ladies... Edited September 23, 2014 by JDGRUEN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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