Keesters Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 how can a shower curtain rail support his weight? Not only that.... the height? I never saw one that I could not grab ..standing up. Why don't you two experiment to prove/disprove your conspiracy theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Is there a new trend in reporting, used to be all Brits (English, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, often including citizens of the Eire, and even some European's) were said to be British or English? Edited September 25, 2014 by Basil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbanda Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Dear o dear.......27 year old and committing suicide over losing his job ? There may well be much more to this story - but it's still a terrible shame. I don't know what support services exist here - I hope I never need them personally, but I think it would be a big help if the " support services " were made more public for ex. pats - surely some of these suicides could be prevented . He had his all life in front of him ! it might be something the expat community could set up themselves with out the usual leaches looking to get their face in the media every 5 mins. Shame about the lad. A case of letting Pattaya control you instead of you controlling Pattaya I tough about this before...In tourist/expats spots like Pattaya, Phuket and BK, will be easy to find an English speaker Buddhist monk or foreign priest that may be interested in set a 1-800 number for them give counseling.....Unfortunately I do not live in a tourist spot anymore, but next time in Chiang Mai I will speak about this with the head of monkchat.net a group of monks that are given meditation classes to foreigners...A list of temples with English speaker monks in those cities will help too....I know that Buddhist temples will welcome and protect any people in crisis..... If just saves one life, makes sense to look in that..... Edited September 25, 2014 by umbanda 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowin Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Again to voice what some have said very sad to see anyone end like this. WE all or most have been trough hard times whether it be depression or tragedy or some thing bad happens. But I have had my lows but the one thing that life has thought me you can always get trough what ever it is and look back and say god that was not as bad as I thought. But I can't give advice just experience PLEASE talk to someone anyone if you are feeling bad or down and ask for help lots of it out there. Even here( net) there are plenty that will listen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 how can a shower curtain rail support his weight? What did he weigh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowin Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Dear o dear.......27 year old and committing suicide over losing his job ? There may well be much more to this story - but it's still a terrible shame. I don't know what support services exist here - I hope I never need them personally, but I think it would be a big help if the " support services " were made more public for ex. pats - surely some of these suicides could be prevented . He had his all life in front of him ! it might be something the expat community could set up themselves with out the usual leaches looking to get their face in the media every 5 mins. Shame about the lad. A case of letting Pattaya control you instead of you controlling Pattaya I tough about this before...In tourist/expats spots like Pattaya, Phuket and BK, will be easy to find an English speaker Buddhist monk or foreign priest that may be interested in set a 1-800 number for them give counseling.....Unfortunately I do not live in a tourist spot anymore, but next time in Chiang Mai I will speak about this with the head of monkchat.net a group of monks that are given meditation classes to foreigners...A list of temples with English speaker monks in those cities will help too....I know that Buddhist temples will welcome and protect any people in crisis..... If just saves one life, makes sense to look in that..... Well said.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverkev9 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 There are just as many suicides in the US. There are more in the US than most countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 A member of my family back in the UK spent many years volunteering for the Samaritans , I always admired her for this work. I do not think there is anything similar in Pattaya, but there is definitely a need. RIP to this young man, I would imagine many of us have gone through bad times, but to see no way out? Knock the UK , but there are many support services available if you are really desperate . One problem is that the Embassy is simply not interested if you need bailing out, so if you have no money you are stuck in a country that has no sympathy to your situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggae rancher Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The quote was from Robin Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 This suicide was on Tuesday afternoon, NOT Wednesday. He had taken advice from alleged friends and invested all his money in a deposit for a new condo apartment, yet to be built. He was unable to continue the monthly repayments for this new apartment. He was unable to pay even his rent. This was quite possibly his reason for suicide. I very much doubt loosing his job contributed. He was from Glasgow, not Northern Ireland. Sad outcome !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 TWO posts were removed. A man has died so let's stay a bit sensitive to any family reading this, please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldnguy Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) how can a shower curtain rail support his weight? If the maximum load of the shower rail is more than the weight of the person then it can support his weight. (deleted) Edited September 25, 2014 by petercool flame comment removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boike Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Poor girl that she had to witness this. Sent from my Galaxy S4 4G LTE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GertrudeL Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Why everyone believed that it was suicide? May be I value life so much that cannot imagine anyone killing himself for such a easy to solve reason? Just in another thread about 'buying a car for a wife's dad', I was told that some local thai girl managed to find well paid full time job in UK and afford a luxury car for 800k (sarcasm) It does not matter what cause the death, RIP man! Edited September 25, 2014 by GertrudeL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnut65 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) I have been in countless hotels and condos in thailand and there is absolutely no way on this planet that an average hotel/condo shower curtain rail can support the weight of a full grown man. Edited September 25, 2014 by numnut65 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I have been in countless hotels and condos in thailand and there is absolutely no way on this planet that an average hotel/condo shower curtain rail can support the weight of a full grown man. just as well your not a full grown man then ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nielsk Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Dear o dear.......27 year old and committing suicide over losing his job ? There may well be much more to this story - but it's still a terrible shame. I don't know what support services exist here - I hope I never need them personally, but I think it would be a big help if the " support services " were made more public for ex. pats - surely some of these suicides could be prevented . He had his all life in front of him ! it might be something the expat community could set up themselves with out the usual leaches looking to get their face in the media every 5 mins. Shame about the lad. A case of letting Pattaya control you instead of you controlling Pattaya "A case of letting Pattaya control you instead of you controlling Pattaya" Well spoken Franky Bear ! A very important phrase.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertty Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I wonder how after they cut the fella down, they are dealing with the body by the front door rather than in the bathroom. I also wonder how you go about hanging yourself when all you have to do is stand up to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 pattaya daily says he was an Irishman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 some shower rails have hanging rods from the ceiling so its just possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Many of the true facts are very different to what is reported. Security guard did not find him hanging. His girlfriend did. She called him to help get his body down to hopefully revive him. Infact more info untrue than true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Not the most apt headline. 'Scottish suicide'? Is it somehow different from other suicides, such as 'Thai', 'Chinese' or 'French'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomcondo Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 There must be a constant stream of bodies down at bkk being flown back to the United Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigman Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) This is sad.... young guys throwing their lives away. I think there are a few holes in the story.......possibly his money was running out and he didn't want to leave. Losing his job was the last straw, although being a security guard, I am surprised he managed to get 3 months off work. gigman said: I understand his feelings if this was the scenario... That's what exactly means to be young and in love and on the top to taste more of freedom... Coming back to realities can kill anyone... Edited September 25, 2014 by gigman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByTheSandyShore Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I doubt any company would give him leave of absence for 3 months. As a Security Guard it isn't important enough to get 3 months paid leave. I have known men before come to Thailand and not have enough time off from work so have been sacked. .... not to kill themselves though. Sad... there can have been no good reason. I feel for this mother and family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigman Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 There are just as many suicides in the US. There are more in the US than most countries In Australia also... Just young people do not see future for them self's. ...no jobs no further education...no hope or real help... There will be more and more...because there is no solution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 There are just as many suicides in the US. There are more in the US than most countries In Australia also... Just young people do not see future for them self's. ...no jobs no further education...no hope or real help... There will be more and more...because there is no solution... Cut back or remove those taking the jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzai99 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 This is getting crazy, poor guy way to many suicides in Thailand, In the UK there are 6,000 suicides a year, some come to Thailand to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzai99 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 There must be a constant stream of bodies down at bkk being flown back to the United Kingdom. UK has 6,000 suicides a year, are they all suspicious ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 "She explained that Mr. White, who works as a Security Guard in UK, had come to Thailand for 3 months and earlier on Wednesday he was seen to engage in a heated argument during a phone call. Khun Pacharee was then told that he had lost his job in UK" 3 months holiday in paradise, security guards are notoriously poorly paid... I think many Security Guards would be interested to know who he worked for. Security Guard is a generic term often used by those unfamiliar with this diverse field. Some positions require past law enforcement or military experience and pay very well, along with retirement plans, medical and dental, holiday/vacation time and profit sharing. Some positions don't. After two careers, I finished working in this field for a major company. The pay and benefits have helped me to retire and live here. No complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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