webfact Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 M'sians jailed for e-card forgeryThe NationBANGKOK: -- BANGKOK'S Ratchadaphisek Criminal Court yesterday handed a sentence of 568 years in prison to five Malaysian men for electronic-card forgery. However, they are to serve only 50 years behind bars under the maximum Thai criminal code penalty.The five defendants - Francis Xavier Arulappan, 35; Mageswaran Balakrishnan, 23; VelanraJ Vallanrasen, 22; Gunalan Kumaresan, 25; and Kartik Sinansamy, 25 - were found guilty of 142 counts of forgery and using the cards to withdraw cash worth Bt500,000.The complaint stated that the five men and other elusive accomplices from April 2-26, 2009, had used some 700 fake cards to buy goods and withdraw cash from banks in Krabi, Trang, Songkhla and other provinces on 142 occasions.The court found them guilty and initially sentenced each of them to 568 years in prison but halved the punishment to 284 years on grounds of useful confessions. The court also ordered them to repay Bt500,000 to the banks.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Msians-jailed-for-e-card-forgery-30244149.html -- The Nation 2014-09-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MJP Posted September 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2014 Out by 197 years old with good behavior. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Out by 197 years old with good behavior. So the old story ' your'e going to die in prison ' is now a promise not a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyBowskill Posted September 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2014 How does 100k each equate to this sentence, when I have heard of people getting out after 6-8 years after killing someone? Something is very wrong here....... 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Good enough for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted September 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2014 How does 100k each equate to this sentence, when I have heard of people getting out after 6-8 years after killing someone? Something is very wrong here....... They're foreigners JB. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Malaysians have been behind ATM and credit card scams for years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 568 years for 500k thats 888 bht per year........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Is there an ATM machine in the jail area? if yes, better keep an eye on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I never understood this . Give someone a life sentence and also a fine of lots of money. Sounds good right ? Well how the heck are they going to pay the fine if they are sitting in jail for the rest of their lives Can anyone explain it . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assayer Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Out by 197 years old with good behavior. However, they are to serve only 50 years behind bars under the maximum Thai criminal code penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtomtom69 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Well done to the court, a very good outcome. Hopefully more of this foreign scum will be caught and brought to justice. Unfortunately, it's not only Thailand who is host to these criminals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFarAndNear Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 What is an e-card? Do they mean Credit-Cards? Also I see one of the guys is now 22 years old. If this thing happens april 2009 he must be 17 years old. Is there not any youth criminal right? Crazy. They stole 500k Thai Baht and 568years for that. And some other well known gentlemens in this country stole billions of baht by corruption and just get a few years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upset Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 These stupid Malaysian Indians were just stupid poor peasants conned into the jobs by the actual leaders fo these groups who are Chinese Malaysians who are normally based in Penang. Most of these Malaysian Chinese gangs are into credit card fraud, atm fraud , women trafficking and also illegal gambling and also drugs. Many of these Malaysian Chinese are married to thais and have second families and homes in Thailand. Since a lot of suspicions have been observed by retailers about credit card fraud by Malaysian Chinese, they started recruiting Indians and Malays to run their illegal deeds. These stupid Malaysian Indians could not even afford a proper lawyer or even pay bribes to lower the sentences, hence the hefty sentences. They deserve it though for spoiling the image of Indians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 What is an e-card? Do they mean Credit-Cards? Also I see one of the guys is now 22 years old. If this thing happens april 2009 he must be 17 years old. Is there not any youth criminal right? Crazy. They stole 500k Thai Baht and 568years for that. And some other well known gentlemens in this country stole billions of baht by corruption and just get a few years.... Because there were no tins of biscuits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtomtom69 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Malaysians have been behind ATM and credit card scams for years. Yes, unfortunately, and in many countries around the world, particularly the ones with lots of Malaysian tourists (as in Thailand) or expats/students (as in Australia or Singapore). Eastern Europeans are also known as ATM skimmers and have been widening their trade from Europe to Asia (including Thailand) and even Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skildpadden Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 500K fraud gives you 50 years in jail, but if you kill a cop with your Ferrari you are free to go....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 500K fraud gives you 50 years in jail, but if you kill a cop with your Ferrari you are free to go....... When you can own a Ferrari, you can afford lots of tins of biscuits... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 The Thai justice system strikes again. 284 years for what is basically thief or grand larceny. In a country where horrible gruesome murderers literally get away with murder by being released early or even released on bail to murder again...it's a comfort to know thief rates as a higher priority. (Sarcasm). "The court found them guilty and initially sentenced each of them to 568 years in prison but halved the punishment to 284 years on grounds of useful confessions. The court also ordered them to repay Bt500,000 to the banks." It's hard to make this stuff up. Thank God I only have to stay in jail for 284 years, because I don't think I could have taken 568 years. Yes sir, I'll pay that money back as soon as I'm out of jail. That was really nice of you to fine me and let me pay it back when I get out...unbelievable!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedot Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) wish they were this harsh with Thai criminals. Especially the ones that murder tourists. These guys were just the bottom guys that were told to go use the cards and get the goods for the higher-ups. Isn't that obvious. So the justice system punishes the guys harshly that can't bribe their way out. They make an example out of them because they are easy targets. And of course they are not Thai Edited September 26, 2014 by joedot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranO Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 It would be interesting to know how long a Thai person would gt for the same crime - maybe a 2000 THB fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyBowskill Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) How does 100k each equate to this sentence, when I have heard of people getting out after 6-8 years after killing someone? Something is very wrong here....... They're foreigners JB. I actually know (or more know of really) a Farang here in Chiang Mai who shot and killed someone, he was out after 8 years. Guess he must have had dark skin, dark hair and had a short sighted judge then lol Edited September 26, 2014 by JeremyBowskill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 How does 100k each equate to this sentence, when I have heard of people getting out after 6-8 years after killing someone? Something is very wrong here....... They're foreigners JB. I actually know (or more know of really) a Farang here in Chiang Mai who shot and killed someone, he was out after 8 years. Guess he must have had dark skin, dark hair and had a short sighted judge then lol Well they do say Justice is blind but here eyes were never supplied but the sense of feel as in envelopes helps. Notice it didn't say Brown envelopes because if you are blind even on a temporary basis ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 If someone stole 500,000 from me alone I would still not wish him 50 years in prison. I wonder how much will the "Russian" guy get? I think he stole a lot more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 How does 100k each equate to this sentence, when I have heard of people getting out after 6-8 years after killing someone? Something is very wrong here....... It is even more extreme in the west... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I would love to see the PM make extradition request to Singapore for son of Red Bull. I assume he is over his flu by now. And bring him to this court with appropriate sentencing guidelines like these. That would return some happiness to Thai (and farang) people I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestBitterPhuket Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Well done! This type of crime is so damaging. They need to let foreigners entering Thailand know that ATM scams and card forgery will lead you to die in prison (and uncomfortable one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 In trying to work out the logic of this, I reckon it runs 142 offences with a jail sentence of 4 years for every offence. 142 * 4 = 568 Thai logic. So to all future perps, the moral is to take as much as possible with one offence. Lots of small offences (in this case averaging 3,500 Baht) do not pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Malaysians have been behind ATM and credit card scams for years. Every now and again they hit OZ, last scam was in Queensland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jucel Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Just shows how much power the banking system has! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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