Prayut seeks development based on King's philosophy

[Lite Beer]

Prayut seeks development based on King's philosophy
The Sunday Nation

Prayut

BANGKOK: -- Strategies would discuss activities targeted at more than 18,000 villages

Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha will discuss strategies to promote development based on the King's sufficiency philosophy tomorrow - with 18,594 villages targeted for various activities.

Prime Minister's Office deputy spokesperson Maj-General Sansern Kaewkamnerd said yesterday that the meeting involving Prayut would be held at The Crown Property Bureau in Bangkok and will involve 30 people from various organisations.

He said the meeting would be held in accordance with government's policy to implement sufficiency measures up until 2017.

The promotion of a sufficiency economy went hand in hand with the inculcation of moral ethics.

Key partners in the initiative include the Pid Thong Lang Phra Foundation, which specialises in rural development under the King's sufficiency philosophy, and relevant state agencies. Sansern said there was a need for sustainable rural development in order to lift the quality of life for rural Thais.

He said that by targeting 18,594 villages, 25 per cent of all rural villages in the Kingdom would be covered.

Villages surrounding Royal Project sites, such as those with small reservoirs, would be targeted for area-based collaborative research in order to promote a sufficiency lifestyle.

Sansern said other activities under the strategy included introducing a sufficiency economy in the education sector, in business administration, public relations and the security sector.

The total budget was Bt8.7 billion.

The Pid Thong Lang Phra Foundation was created by a Cabinet resolution in 2010 in order to promote development in line with the King's philosophy and this led to the introduction of a new plan for rural development in accordance with the philosophy.

In 2011 the Cabinet adopted the new plan, which is used as a guideline for works by the Interior Ministry.

Five provinces have been chosen for pilot projects in conjunction with the Armed Forces. The are Nan, Udon Thani, Phetchaburi, Uthai Thani and Kalasin.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Prayut-seeks-development-based-on-Kings-philosophy-30245294.html

-- The Nation 2014-10-12

[noitom]

Is this the revival of that OTOP system?

[EricBerg]

I think the sufficiency philosophy means Thai people should live a relatively simple life which would allow the Kingdom to be largely self sufficient and less depending on huge imports. F.i. the "eat rice instead of bread"-thing would fit in well. In modern life especially the young generations will not be too keen on it. They want their smartphones, mototbikes and flashy image stuff. Thailand cannot block out the world.

It's worrying though that the general perhaps needs to fall back on trying to follow that philosophy from the King. Do he and his government lack ideas of how to run the economy?

[mrtoad]

Oh dear

[15Peter20]

A poor subject to start a thread on. It is illegal to discuss it fully.

[ATF]

I think the sufficiency philosophy means Thai people should live a relatively simple life which would allow the Kingdom to be largely self sufficient and less depending on huge imports. F.i. the "eat rice instead of bread"-thing would fit in well. In modern life especially the young generations will not be too keen on it. They want their smartphones, mototbikes and flashy image stuff. Thailand cannot block out the world.

It's worrying though that the general perhaps needs to fall back on trying to follow that philosophy from the King. Do he and his government lack ideas of how to run the economy?

The philosophy is based on growing a wide range of fruit and vegetables and raising animals for food instead of just growing rice and being at the mercy or middlemen and market prices.

The plans to build a self sustainable farm are very comprehensive and well constructed but it is based on providing a self sustaining lifestyle with a little cash to be made from selling excess produce.

It's not going to cover computers, motorbikes and medical bills etc.

[NongKhaiKid]

I think the sufficiency philosophy means Thai people should live a relatively simple life which would allow the Kingdom to be largely self sufficient and less depending on huge imports. F.i. the "eat rice instead of bread"-thing would fit in well. In modern life especially the young generations will not be too keen on it. They want their smartphones, mototbikes and flashy image stuff. Thailand cannot block out the world.

It's worrying though that the general perhaps needs to fall back on trying to follow that philosophy from the King. Do he and his government lack ideas of how to run the economy?

How will all of this fit in with membership of the AEC ?

[mrtoad]

This thread should be closed. It can really be discussed freely for obvious reasons.

[mrjohndub]

Interpreting what 'Sufficiency Economy' means and how to apply it are highly subjective given that the philosophy itself is vague and has never been fully explicated. Also, it assumes class stratification is to be preserved. But, how to determine one's 'place' in society?

[umbanda]

Very interesting. I suspected from the start that the General not only is very conservative but also a King's follower...and sincerely I like that very much.

I keep reading books about the life and work of the Royal Family..in the times were the King was an active politician and regent. Impressive!

Unfortunately I can see that his philosophy is not implemented anymore, speciallly in the agricultural and social field, probably because is not enough control and support in place. I hope the new Government will do it...and looks like it is. The General is not a career politician and is true that he lacks in diplomacy and pose, but he is acting with strenght and recognizing his mistakes. I may be wrong, because politics is not a easy task, never was, in any country, but he wants positive changes and is working on it. Takes time...and a lot of work.

The King was an example to follow......and still the mentor of old Thai generations that have all the reasons to love him like they do.

Edited October 12, 2014 by umbanda

[gerry123]

Interpreting what 'Sufficiency Economy' means and how to apply it are highly subjective given that the philosophy itself is vague and has never been fully explicated. Also, it assumes class stratification is to be preserved. But, how to determine one's 'place' in society?

very sorry fellow tv member you've lost me in word fairy land

[baboon]

Thais have had a bite of the Apple and like it. I don't see how this proposal to turn back the clock can be a success.

[timewilltell]

If that philosophy leads to more education and less reliance on rice growing it would be a great stop gap measure while Thailand tackles the real problems confronting it in 2014.

At the moment Thailand is like a teenager amongst adults with an arcane simplistic unfair and biased set of laws and legal system, a society based on injustice and greed disgustingly favoring the rich and connected, and disgracefully racist and nationalistic to boot.

There is no place for the philosophy in education that is immediately apparent. For that to be tackled Thailand needs to examine the western systems and experience. In fact it would do well to examine them across the board and using the best of them in each field as a model for itself to benefit from the experiences of a history of various ideas both successes and failures.

I stress that Thailand should learn from the mistakes of various ideologies and experiments of the west - many are hugely successful but equally there is immense enlightenment to be gained by the spectacular failures too. Thailand has simply not tried very much preferring the stays quo. However the world is developing and most of the world is not in the Stone Age any more. Even those tribes traded!

But like a teenager Thailand and Thais think they know it all when actually they are still very immature. I hope they grow up soon.

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Edited October 12, 2014 by timewilltell

[chainarong]

I wish PM Prayuth well on the impossible, a little bit antiquated for my taste.

[mojorison]

The leader of the country does not have the best interests of the people at heart... They say he does, but he doesn't really. History will be the judge.

[maxme]

At one school, the kids had to present this topic in class, even the younger ones... Safe to say none of the students understood the true meaning of sufficiency economy but this was bombarded into their little minds that this was the only economy concept that would work for Thailand.

Many of the students copied passages from the internet and one read and I quote; "to guard Thailand from evil foreign, greedy scheeming capitalists."

They were not made aware of the benefits of the projecy only that is good and if anybody questions it, then they are anarchists.

There seems to be a fallacy with this concept. How do you make people financially independent when a lot of them aren't taught to think independently?

[JOC]

The leader of the country does not have the best interests of the people at heart... They say he does, but he doesn't really. History will be the judge.

Spot on! But as long as the leader hides behind HM, no one dare to question it!!

[apetley]

Judging by the recent assets declaration I seriously doubt that a single member of this junta is following any self sufficiency lifestyle. Now if they practised 'do as I do' rather than 'do as I say' I may take notice but to suggest people should be happy with their place in the scheme of things living a subsistance life in rural Thailand whilst the priviledged few tell them this is what's best for them is going to win few friends.

[h90]

Is this the revival of that OTOP system?

No that is much more......There are excellent ideas which also allows to make good money. Decades ago the King had the ideas of organic farming and knew that the prices will be much higher.

Just an example: farming rice without pesticides, by having fishes in the water and ducks. Both eats the pest, are excellent sources of protein, can be sold and the rice is organic and gets much higher prices.

On top of this some farmer should make groups and buy together a rice mill (or however this machine is called) so they can produce a complete finished product and don't need the middle man and have minimal costs themself.

Just one example of hundreds.

[chainarong]

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A poor subject to start a thread on. It is illegal to discuss it fully.

Yeah be careful we wouldn't like to upset the elite

[chainarong]

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Is this the revival of that OTOP system?

No that is much more......There are excellent ideas which also allows to make good money. Decades ago the King had the ideas of organic farming and knew that the prices will be much higher.

Just an example: farming rice without pesticides, by having fishes in the water and ducks. Both eats the pest, are excellent sources of protein, can be sold and the rice is organic and gets much higher prices.

On top of this some farmer should make groups and buy together a rice mill (or however this machine is called) so they can produce a complete finished product and don't need the middle man and have minimal costs themself.

Just one example of hundreds.

Yeah we've done all that plus mushrooms everything fizzled out.

[worgeordie]

Small farmers growing mono crops,is the reason that many are up

to their eyes in debit,BUT the keep on doing it !,better to grow a

wider range of products,including,fish,poultry,and other farm animals,

they will always have something to eat,selling the surplus to buy other

necessities.

Growing mono crops like rice the farmers are at the mercy of world

markets and disease,the Government cannot keep using tax payers

money to support the farmers,there has to be a change.

regards Worgeordie

[kriswillems]

If you want to get something done in Thailand you say that you're following the guidelines of the king.

If you want to take out an enemy out you say he has insulted the king.

The king is used by politicians and dictators as an instrument to get what they want.

That's too bad, because I am sure that is not what the king wanted.

Also, the concept of sufficiency economy is still very unclear to me,

even after several governments have tried to explain it.

I hope it's not interpreted in such a way, that it is used to keep the poor happy with their poorness.

Anyway, good luck to the general, I hope he can do something about the huge overproduction in rice farming. The idea of switching to other crops and even to a completely different sector (outside agriculture) makes sense.

Edited October 12, 2014 by kriswillems

[binjalin]

any deeper thinking person will see it's all about keeping the masses 'in their place' so the ammart can continue raking in the profits

[Fab5BKK]

1 concept "self-sufficiency" and 1 fact "AEC"

How the concept fits the fact?

Just asking

[RKASA]

I am not offering an opinion because it would frankly illegal to do so at this point in time. One of the reasons for promoting it is to cast that net. Read history and the results of these type of things and one will be able to know for themself how they feel about it - well as long as those materials are not yet banned that is.

[h90]

I think the sufficiency philosophy means Thai people should live a relatively simple life which would allow the Kingdom to be largely self sufficient and less depending on huge imports. F.i. the "eat rice instead of bread"-thing would fit in well. In modern life especially the young generations will not be too keen on it. They want their smartphones, mototbikes and flashy image stuff. Thailand cannot block out the world.

It's worrying though that the general perhaps needs to fall back on trying to follow that philosophy from the King. Do he and his government lack ideas of how to run the economy?

The philosophy is based on growing a wide range of fruit and vegetables and raising animals for food instead of just growing rice and being at the mercy or middlemen and market prices.

The plans to build a self sustainable farm are very comprehensive and well constructed but it is based on providing a self sustaining lifestyle with a little cash to be made from selling excess produce.

It's not going to cover computers, motorbikes and medical bills etc.

No that is wrong.....with self sustaining lifestyle you don't need as much money. That means everything you sell will keep in your pocket. Instead of pumping a lot money around getting a lot and spending a lot. You get less but almost don't spend any. Instead of getting 30.000 per month and have costs including your own food of 32.000, you make only 15.000 and have costs of 5000.

And everything can be certified as Organic, so these days they would rather make 30.000 and have costs of 5000. But it is difficult and needs thinking.

See the fanatics from Chamlong who aren't allowed to make profit...they have huge funds for safety/education/medical treatment.

I have seen the bio diesel project for small farmer in Chumphon. Amazing how you can make out of nothing bio diesel. Active coal filtering....Just burn wood and close the air supply....make the coal yourself from old trees at zero costs......mix it in old plastic bottles.

Means you have some diesel at zero costs. Enough for simple machinery, not enough for going around with the pickup for fun.

Having the chicken run around between finding their food themself and produce you a egg every day or every second.

Much is based on the farmers cooperate. Like instead of every farmer has ducks. One has hundreds of ducks and visit one farmer after the other. Get the food for the ducks for free, they fertilize the land, remove the pest and produce meat and eggs.

Of course all ideas are like 30 years old, in modern time we could add solar cells, fridge, organic certification and export etc.. But where would be the profit for the Shinawatras and the middleman?

[h90]

I am not offering an opinion because it would frankly illegal to do so at this point in time. One of the reasons for promoting it is to cast that net. Read history and the results of these type of things and one will be able to know for themself how they feel about it - well as long as those materials are not yet banned that is.

No it is not illegal, actually it is encouraged. See many speeches of the King. It is encouraged to modify/improve/adjust/discuss or drop these projects. As long as I know there wasn't a single case at court for not agreeing with some projects. Lese Majeste covers something complete different than farmer methods.

[RKASA]

I am not offering an opinion because it would frankly illegal to do so at this point in time. One of the reasons for promoting it is to cast that net. Read history and the results of these type of things and one will be able to know for themself how they feel about it - well as long as those materials are not yet banned that is.

No it is not illegal, actually it is encouraged. See many speeches of the King. It is encouraged to modify/improve/adjust/discuss or drop these projects. As long as I know there wasn't a single case at court for not agreeing with some projects. Lese Majeste covers something complete different than farmer methods.

You be a farmer here then. Show us. Methods got nothing to do with the aggregate problem in this.

[Zooheekock]

I am not offering an opinion because it would frankly illegal to do so at this point in time. One of the reasons for promoting it is to cast that net. Read history and the results of these type of things and one will be able to know for themself how they feel about it - well as long as those materials are not yet banned that is.

No it is not illegal, actually it is encouraged. See many speeches of the King. It is encouraged to modify/improve/adjust/discuss or drop these projects. As long as I know there wasn't a single case at court for not agreeing with some projects. Lese Majeste covers something complete different than farmer methods.

Given the post-coup spike in charges, your comments are foolish in the extreme.