Popular Post Fred Flinstone Posted October 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2014 If your Reading this and thinking Thailand is safe and Honest …and you happen to be intelligent …its likely you will not come here 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post luk AJ Posted October 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2014 Prayut's approval rating rises to 93.3 per cent BANGKOK: -- The approval rating for the government rose to 93.3 per cent after Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha attended the Asia-Europe Meeting in Italy, a survey by the Thai Researchers in Community Happiness Association has found. The rating rose from 77.2 per cent late September and 89.0 per cent early October, the pollster announced Sunday. The opinion survey was carried out among leaders of 608 communities nationwide on Friday and Saturday. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Prayuts-approval-rating-rises-to-93-3-per-cent-30245775.html -- The Nation 2014-10-19 please look closer to this article.."The opinion survey was carried out among leaders of 608 communities nationwide on Friday and Saturday." This is a "servey" not a ""poll" carried out among his own staff, what did you expect? I am surprised it is not 100%. The 54 leaders who voted against will probably have to look for another job on Monday!Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Why has he done exactly? He cleaned up a beach and some footpaths and people think he is god....... And that's something that no previous government has ever accomplished. Seeing DSI Chief Tarit bulldoze his illegally built resort in a national park... Priceless! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luk AJ Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Correction 42 leaders Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I hope the embassies in Bkk include this in their regular report back to their respective Foreign Ministries and especially the British Embassy so the FCO and Cameron start to really understand who and what they are dealing with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanet Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 a survey by the Thai Researchers in Community Happiness Association has found. Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 A post in violation of the below has been removed: Posting Content & General Conduct8) You will not post disruptive or inflammatory messages, vulgarities, obscenities or profanities. Forum Netiquette 1. Please do not post in all capital letters, bold, unusual fonts, sizes or colors. It can be difficult to read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ffaarraanngg Posted October 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2014 Im waiting for him to get 18 hole in ones on his first round of golf. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Another farce in the Land of Smiles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespiere Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 41 out of 608 community leaders disapprove of the General. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 i would like to know the name of the president of the poll company His name is Mr. Noppadon Kannika. According to his bio, he is Research Advisor to the Commander in Chief, the Royal Thai Army. So, no bias there! http://library.au.edu/hall-of-fame/st-thomas2009-3.html The masterpoll.net domain was registered on May 15, 2014 – one week before the military coup. Another interesting fact, since the official version is that the coup was not planned... http://asiancorrespondent.com/126917/why-are-some-opinion-poll-results-so-positive-of-the-thai-junta/ Bruce I certainly can't see the bias on your part either; moreover, one week before the coup there wasn't a government in any fractured sense of reality as many of you seem to forget. There was chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyBowskill Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Not a believer in coincidences but oddly enough my goldfish got exactly the same approval rating today, they survey consisted of only me and my cat though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chooka Posted October 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2014 Why has he done exactly?rewarded the police on Koh Tao for thier excellent work and professionalism 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templedog Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 anyone in their right mind can see the koh tao murder case as a complete whitewash. i would bet my left (you know what) that the UK (oops, caps) is complicit in it as well. what an opportunity to use leverage to get some oil/gas drilling deals in the gulf for BP in return for going along with the whitewash in order to get back to "business as usual". People need to wake up and stop being so naive, you must understand current hard ball politics in order to make sense of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 41 out of 608 community leaders disapprove of the General. Interesting. There's nothing interesting about it unless you put up some demographics. Give the polling company a call. Use a tone of voice that equates with... the passions that you post with here. Demand the demographics of the poll in the name of the downtrodden masses. Post them in this forum so we can all bear witness and share in what you find interesting about this. It's what your avatar would have done! I'm sure the polling company will be most happy to comply with your request. Cheers, Local Drunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brucec64 Posted October 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2014 i would like to know the name of the president of the poll company His name is Mr. Noppadon Kannika. According to his bio, he is Research Advisor to the Commander in Chief, the Royal Thai Army. So, no bias there! http://library.au.edu/hall-of-fame/st-thomas2009-3.html The masterpoll.net domain was registered on May 15, 2014 – one week before the military coup. Another interesting fact, since the official version is that the coup was not planned... http://asiancorrespondent.com/126917/why-are-some-opinion-poll-results-so-positive-of-the-thai-junta/ Bruce I certainly can't see the bias on your part either; moreover, one week before the coup there wasn't a government in any fractured sense of reality as many of you seem to forget. There was chaos. Bias on my part is not relevant - I'm not publishing dodgy opinion polls. I do not forget, but I saw events at that time as more manufactured chaos. Suthep was just about to give up, and the protests were dwindling. The EC was out of excuses for not calling an election. The only course of action was to call an election or stage a coup. But, we were told that there was no coup planned, and that it was a spur of the moment decision. Setting up polling companies one week prior to that "spur of the moment" decision seems to indicate otherwise. Recent events seem to indicate that this government does not mind stretching the truth. I won't go into detail because there are multiple "koh tao" / "Italy protests" / "meetings with Japan" threads that show the large discrepancies between Thai and international versions of the story. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Why has he done exactly?rewarded the police on Koh Tao for thier excellent work and professionalism and in Milan appointed himself official spokesperson for the governments of Japan, China, Singapore Cambodia and David Cameron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) i would like to know the name of the president of the poll company His name is Mr. Noppadon Kannika. According to his bio, he is Research Advisor to the Commander in Chief, the Royal Thai Army. So, no bias there! http://library.au.edu/hall-of-fame/st-thomas2009-3.html The masterpoll.net domain was registered on May 15, 2014 – one week before the military coup. Another interesting fact, since the official version is that the coup was not planned... http://asiancorrespondent.com/126917/why-are-some-opinion-poll-results-so-positive-of-the-thai-junta/ Bruce I certainly can't see the bias on your part either; moreover, one week before the coup there wasn't a government in any fractured sense of reality as many of you seem to forget. There was chaos. Bias on my part is not relevant - I'm not publishing dodgy opinion polls. I do not forget, but I saw events at that time as more manufactured chaos. Suthep was just about to give up, and the protests were dwindling. The EC was out of excuses for not calling an election. The only course of action was to call an election or stage a coup. But, we were told that there was no coup planned, and that it was a spur of the moment decision. Setting up polling companies one week prior to that "spur of the moment" decision seems to indicate otherwise. Recent events seem to indicate that this government does not mind stretching the truth. I won't go into detail because there are multiple "koh tao" / "Italy protests" / "meetings with Japan" threads that show the large discrepancies between Thai and international versions of the story. " Do you know for a fact that the opinion poll is dodgy? Say instead that "the poll looks dodgy." I do remember the comments that no coup was planned. He was trying to get the two sides together to work it out in meetings, and as I recall and neither side was giving an inch. The military always has a plan you know. They just don't always execute it. I'm sorry if I sound harsh sometimes and thank you for your reasoned response. I'll leave you to your research... Cheers, L.D. Edited October 19, 2014 by Local Drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robespiere Posted October 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2014 " Do you know for a fact that the opinion poll is dodgy? I do remember the comments that no coup was planned. He was trying to get the two sides together to work it out in meetings, and as I recall and neither side was giving an inch. The military always has a plan you know. They just don't always execute it. I'm sorry if I sound harsh sometimes and thank you for your reasoned response. I'll leave you to your research... Cheers, L.D. A poll suggesting 93.3% of Thais approve of Prayuth is beyond dodgy, it's ridiculous. Only 0.01% (pretty much just you) of educated Westerners could ever buy it. What on earth makes you think the large portion of the population that stood up and fought for their rights whilst being gunned down in the streets by their own military would approve of the current situation? I do remember comments (from Suthep) that planning for the coup began way back in 2010. No need to apologise. It's not that you sound harsh, it's more that you sound.......well I guess ill informed and ignorant is the nicest way to say it. You don't need to ask for forgiveness, you already have our pity. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 " Do you know for a fact that the opinion poll is dodgy? Say instead that "the poll looks dodgy." I do remember the comments that no coup was planned. He was trying to get the two sides together to work it out in meetings, and as I recall and neither side was giving an inch. The military always has a plan you know. They just don't always execute it. I'm sorry if I sound harsh sometimes and thank you for your reasoned response. I'll leave you to your research... Cheers, L.D. Let me rephrase. I will assert that the poll is dodgy for the following reasons: 1) The poll company was started one week before the coup, and the poll company owner works for the Army (according to his linked in page http://imgur.com/UlHpJ5Z). This could cause bias, and should at least be stated when poll results are released, for full transparency. 2) The survey sample is only local leaders, who have a vested interest in showing support, both for job security, and the threat of the "re-educuation" sessions. This is in no way a representative sample of the population. 3) In the last month, there have been multiple incidents where the official version of events (koh tao" / "Italy protests" / "meetings with Japan" to name 3) have been significantly diferrent to international events, which leads to the assertion that news is being manipulated to present extremely favourable version of events, even when contradicted by multiple external and internal sources. As I stated earlier, I won't enter detail because this has been in numerous threads. I will leave you to your research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartempion Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 There is Some room for improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 " Do you know for a fact that the opinion poll is dodgy? I do remember the comments that no coup was planned. He was trying to get the two sides together to work it out in meetings, and as I recall and neither side was giving an inch. The military always has a plan you know. They just don't always execute it. I'm sorry if I sound harsh sometimes and thank you for your reasoned response. I'll leave you to your research... Cheers, L.D. A poll suggesting 93.3% of Thais approve of Prayuth is beyond dodgy, it's ridiculous. Only 0.01% (pretty much just you) of educated Westerners could ever buy it. What on earth makes you think the large portion of the population that stood up and fought for their rights whilst being gunned down in the streets by their own military would approve of the current situation? I do remember comments (from Suthep) that planning for the coup began way back in 2010. No need to apologise. It's not that you sound harsh, it's more that you sound.......well I guess ill informed and ignorant is the nicest way to say it. You don't need to ask for forgiveness, you already have our pity. How is the poll absurd? Like I said... get the demographics. "What on earth makes you think the large portion of the population that stood up and fought for their rights whilst being gunned down in the streets by their own military would approve of the current situation?" Tarit tried to push those charges as well when he was in charge of DSI and the pressure from Suthep was on. He got nowhere in the courts or in the opinion of the Thai public. I don't remember a coup being planned in 2010... I was here then just as I am now. Give us a fact! "well I guess ill informed and ignorant is the nicest way to say it. You don't need to ask for forgiveness, you already have our pity." Hmmm... I didn't ask for your forgiveness and I doubt that you have pity for anyone but yourself. By the way... Who is us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Flinstone Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) " Do you know for a fact that the opinion poll is dodgy? I do remember the comments that no coup was planned. He was trying to get the two sides together to work it out in meetings, and as I recall and neither side was giving an inch. The military always has a plan you know. They just don't always execute it. I'm sorry if I sound harsh sometimes and thank you for your reasoned response. I'll leave you to your research... Cheers, L.D. A poll suggesting 93.3% of Thais approve of Prayuth is beyond dodgy, it's ridiculous. Only 0.01% (pretty much just you) of educated Westerners could ever buy it. What on earth makes you think the large portion of the population that stood up and fought for their rights whilst being gunned down in the streets by their own military would approve of the current situation? I do remember comments (from Suthep) that planning for the coup began way back in 2010. No need to apologise. It's not that you sound harsh, it's more that you sound.......well I guess ill informed and ignorant is the nicest way to say it. You don't need to ask for forgiveness, you already have our pity. Its actually a bad thread - it makes you feel like your signing on to a North Korean piece So sad ….Thailand 2014 ..Junta Edited October 19, 2014 by Fred Flinstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespiere Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 " Do you know for a fact that the opinion poll is dodgy? I do remember the comments that no coup was planned. He was trying to get the two sides together to work it out in meetings, and as I recall and neither side was giving an inch. The military always has a plan you know. They just don't always execute it. I'm sorry if I sound harsh sometimes and thank you for your reasoned response. I'll leave you to your research... Cheers, L.D. A poll suggesting 93.3% of Thais approve of Prayuth is beyond dodgy, it's ridiculous. Only 0.01% (pretty much just you) of educated Westerners could ever buy it. What on earth makes you think the large portion of the population that stood up and fought for their rights whilst being gunned down in the streets by their own military would approve of the current situation? I do remember comments (from Suthep) that planning for the coup began way back in 2010. No need to apologise. It's not that you sound harsh, it's more that you sound.......well I guess ill informed and ignorant is the nicest way to say it. You don't need to ask for forgiveness, you already have our pity. How is the poll absurd? Like I said... get the demographics. "What on earth makes you think the large portion of the population that stood up and fought for their rights whilst being gunned down in the streets by their own military would approve of the current situation?" Tarit tried to push those charges as well when he was in charge of DSI and the pressure from Suthep was on. He got nowhere in the courts or in the opinion of the Thai public. I don't remember a coup being planned in 2010... I was here then just as I am now. Give us a fact! "well I guess ill informed and ignorant is the nicest way to say it. You don't need to ask for forgiveness, you already have our pity." Hmmm... I didn't ask for your forgiveness and I doubt that you have pity for anyone but yourself. By the way... Who is us? Suthep let the cat out of the bag at the weekend. The Bangkok Post with the headline “Suthep in talks with Prayuth ‘since 2010’” Mr Suthep broke his silence at a fund-raising dinner on Saturday night at the Pacific Club in Bangkok. …He said he chats regularly to Gen Prayuth and his team via the Line chat app. “Before martial law was declared, Gen Prayuth told me ‘Khun Suthep and your masses of PDRC supporters are too exhausted. It’s now the duty of the army to take over the task’, ” Mr Suthep said. He had consulted Gen Prayuth since the 2010 political unrest on how to root out the so-called Thaksin regime and join hands to reform the country, fight corruption and dissolve colour-coded politics that divided Thais. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty123 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I had plans to return, but I don't really want to move to N.Korea MKII. Sad and worrying times for Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) " Do you know for a fact that the opinion poll is dodgy? I do remember the comments that no coup was planned. He was trying to get the two sides together to work it out in meetings, and as I recall and neither side was giving an inch. The military always has a plan you know. They just don't always execute it. I'm sorry if I sound harsh sometimes and thank you for your reasoned response. I'll leave you to your research... Cheers, L.D. A poll suggesting 93.3% of Thais approve of Prayuth is beyond dodgy, it's ridiculous. Only 0.01% (pretty much just you) of educated Westerners could ever buy it. What on earth makes you think the large portion of the population that stood up and fought for their rights whilst being gunned down in the streets by their own military would approve of the current situation? I do remember comments (from Suthep) that planning for the coup began way back in 2010. No need to apologise. It's not that you sound harsh, it's more that you sound.......well I guess ill informed and ignorant is the nicest way to say it. You don't need to ask for forgiveness, you already have our pity. How is the poll absurd? Like I said... get the demographics. "What on earth makes you think the large portion of the population that stood up and fought for their rights whilst being gunned down in the streets by their own military would approve of the current situation?" Tarit tried to push those charges as well when he was in charge of DSI and the pressure from Suthep was on. He got nowhere in the courts or in the opinion of the Thai public. I don't remember a coup being planned in 2010... I was here then just as I am now. Give us a fact! "well I guess ill informed and ignorant is the nicest way to say it. You don't need to ask for forgiveness, you already have our pity." Hmmm... I didn't ask for your forgiveness and I doubt that you have pity for anyone but yourself. By the way... Who is us? Suthep let the cat out of the bag at the weekend. The Bangkok Post with the headline “Suthep in talks with Prayuth ‘since 2010’” Mr Suthep broke his silence at a fund-raising dinner on Saturday night at the Pacific Club in Bangkok. …He said he chats regularly to Gen Prayuth and his team via the Line chat app. “Before martial law was declared, Gen Prayuth told me ‘Khun Suthep and your masses of PDRC supporters are too exhausted. It’s now the duty of the army to take over the task’, ” Mr Suthep said. He had consulted Gen Prayuth since the 2010 political unrest on how to root out the so-called Thaksin regime and join hands to reform the country, fight corruption and dissolve colour-coded politics that divided Thais. That is not a fact, it's something he said according to the BP. Do you believe the BP? Did you believe everything Suthep said? Did you believe that Supthep was ever going to be the next PM? He said he had no interest in the position here were posting it as fact with lots of references to Hitler an Mussolini. You have a lot of enthusiasm and passion... That's a good thing, but your're only preaching to the choir and not winning any converts. Edited October 19, 2014 by Local Drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaobang Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I had plans to return, but I don't really want to move to N.Korea MKII. Sad and worrying times for Thailand. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1413698448 it made my day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespiere Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 That is not a fact,It's something he said according to the BP. Do you believe the BP? Did you believe everything Suthep said? Did you believe that Supthep was ever going to be the next PM? People here were posting it as fact. You have a lot of enthusiasm and passion... That's a good thing, but your're only preaching to the choir and not winning any converts. The Bangkok Post, as it is in English, is not a widely read paper in Thailand so just because the story appeared in the Bangkok Post does not mean the story will be widely read. However, multiple papers have picked up on the story citing the Bangkok Post including Thai Post, Post Today, Prachachat, Khao Sod, ASTV Manager, Thai Rath, Channel 3 (although that was focused on the military denial) and Matichon amongst others. It should be noted that Wassana of the Bangkok Post has confirmed that the Post sent a reporter to listen to Suthep speak and it was not based on some report or second hand). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I had plans to return, but I don't really want to move to N.Korea MKII. Sad and worrying times for Thailand. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1413698448 it made my day Best quote I've seen in a long time: "I want all Thais to return home," Gen. Prayuth said yesterday after returning from an international summit in Italy. "All of those who are facing charges should return home. If you are not guilty, no one can punish you." I'm sure the two Myanmar suspects in the Koh Samui jail will find comfort in this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Dog Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 i would like to know the name of the president of the poll company His name is Mr. Noppadon Kannika. According to his bio, he is Research Advisor to the Commander in Chief, the Royal Thai Army. So, no bias there! http://library.au.edu/hall-of-fame/st-thomas2009-3.html The masterpoll.net domain was registered on May 15, 2014 – one week before the military coup. Another interesting fact, since the official version is that the coup was not planned... http://asiancorrespondent.com/126917/why-are-some-opinion-poll-results-so-positive-of-the-thai-junta/ That asiancorrespondent article is telling. I was looking forward to the PM's weekly address this past Friday in a pub and as soon as he came on, a Thai guy rushed to the counter and grabbed the control and changed the channel. Guess he was in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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